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Spider-Man: No Way Home Discussion Thread - WITH SPOILERS

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ShakeResounding said:
Ah, speaking on Sandman reminds me.

Giant Sandman from SM3 is stated to weigh 500 tons in the novelization of the movie, right? Would it be worth seeing what result that would give if we calc it using scenes from the movie (which I believe is allowed due to its secondary canon status), considering Tobey survives multiple attacks from him? Or would the result not be impressive enough to warrant a calculation? I'm not a math guy so I figured I'd ask somebody who is
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I think based on the proportions, it garners 9-A
 
Oh, and let me know if those movie covers I added aren't fitting properly alongside the "Contents" block. For some reason it fits sometimes and doesn't fit other times when I refresh the page. I even tried downsizing both images a bit but I still run into the issue. Weird...
 
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Done! Feel free to check it out!

Edit: It was mainly just touching up on something barebones, but there's still not much lol. Just a good once-over in term of aesthetic, being a little more in-depth with the ratings, and some pictures for the profiles related to the verse. Oh, and adding some movie covers like with the Raimiverse's universe page.
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Great work, looks amazing
 
They really did a good job with the design in this movie, fantastic modernized villains.
(Also this is the real Sinister Six)
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Is Peter supposed to be stronger than Norman now?

At first, my thoughts were, "Oh, they're comparable, but Norman was out to **** Peter up in their first fight, so he had the advantage, and in the second fight, Peter wanted to kill him, so he pulled no punches". But then, I went back and watched the apartment fight, and Norman was, like, taking blows from Peter and laughing them off?? And also, body slamming him through floors.

Maybe Norman was stronger, and Peter was just getting better shots in on him because he webbed him up? Norman just seemed overwhelmingly superior in their initial confrontation, and Peter Two also seems to be stronger than Peter, so I'm spent.
 
Nullflowerblush said:
Is Peter supposed to be stronger than Norman now?

At first, my thoughts were, "Oh, they're comparable, but Norman was out to **** Peter up in their first fight, so he had the advantage, and in the second fight, Peter wanted to kill him, so he pulled no punches". But then, I went back and watched the apartment fight, and Norman was, like, taking blows from Peter and laughing them off?? And also, body slamming him through floors.

Maybe Norman was stronger, and Peter was just getting better shots in on him because he webbed him up? Norman just seemed overwhelmingly superior in their initial confrontation, and Peter Two also seems to be stronger than Peter, so I'm spent.
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No, the final fight made it clear that MCU Peter was no longer holding back. He said he just wanted to kill him and Norman had previously mocked him for still wishing to help him, ergo pulling his punches. Think of how Peter held his blows back and didn’t do as much damage in the first fight, but the second fight rolls around, and he’s turning Norman to pulp, constantly knocking him down with incredibly staggering attacks. That’s also why Norman goes “Attaboy” when he hears Peter state he wants to kill him. He knows he isn’t gonna be delivering baby hits anymore. The movie makes this very clear

Raimi Peter isn’t stronger AP wise. LS? Yeah, but only by a very slight margin

All the Spider-Men are equal AP wise. We’ve all discussed that
 
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ShakeResounding said:
Ah, speaking on Sandman reminds me.

Giant Sandman from SM3 is stated to weigh 500 tons in the novelization of the movie, right? Would it be worth seeing what result that would give if we calc it using scenes from the movie (which I believe is allowed due to its secondary canon status), considering Tobey survives multiple attacks from him? Or would the result not be impressive enough to warrant a calculation? I'm not a math guy so I figured I'd ask somebody who is
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Hmmmmmm, I'm not sure, you could try gaining his sand arm mass and try the punching speed for KE or PE where Venom strangles him but I doubt it'd wield much.
 
Not all that important but it would be great if we could figure out the approximate ages of Tobey and Andrew in character for their profiles. We know they both are far older than what they were acting as in their own movies, but the timeline of when the Raimi and Webb movies took place is harder to figure out compared to MCU movies, as the time jumps between movies are not consistent with real life time passed.
 
Well, it's the end of 2023 in the MCU as of No Way Home. And the MCU treats the year the movies came out as the year it took place in (as seen in Endgame) unless made clear it isn't. If time passed concurrently, and the Raimiverse and Webbverse treats time like the MCU, then we could go from there.

Edit: Since KLOL showed that Raimi Peter was 17 in the beginning of the first movie down below, back in 2002, that would make him around 36 as of No Way Home. And if Andrew's Peter was also 17 in 2012, that would make him around 26.

Though again, this is under the idea that the year the movie came out in is the year it took place in their world like how the MCU does it. It's my best guess using the MCU's own logic.
 
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Though again, this is under the idea that the year the movie came out in is the year it took place in their world like how the MCU does it. It's my best guess using the MCU's own logic.
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I'd say it makes sense even without the MCU, since Aunt May mentions in SM2 that it'd be two years since Uncle Ben died, and SM2 released in 2004, two years after SM1.
 
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