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Son Goku fights the God of Thunder (12-16-0).

SSJ2 was accepted as an at least 2x. SSJ3 is unquantifiable but most people will tell you it's 2 or 4x SSJ2.
 
Adem Warlock69 said:
Thor is 780 because of his magic Belt, and 7 800 in Warrior Madness, the Thermo-Blast is above that
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Wait are you stacking he's warrior madness buff on top of already belt buff
 
Just to clarify, it is more so about the SSJ multipliers that are listed in the guidebooks are not accepted. Which are most of them like Grade 2, Grade 3, SSJ3, etc

SSJ is pretty straightforward case.

I take it back, this was worth double checking while on break

Okay. Now I bow out @Uchiha Thanks, you too.
 
UchihaSlayer96 said:
What are the multipliers for Ss2-3??
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So it looks like SSJ2 and 3 are not accepted as 2x and 8x on SSJ respectively so I am guessing each is a x2 on each other? lol I have no clue if the argument was that the SEG made the multipliers lower than what they should be or exaggerated.
 
@Awkguy

In that thread it was accepted as an 2x because 50% SSJ2 Gohan > MSSJ Gohan

At least for vs thread purposes they should be 2x since they are far above their lesser forms.
 
On the thread i linked, it say SSJ2 is accepted as 2x SSJ, tried searching other thread and that's the answer i got.

SSJ3 is mostly accepted as 4x SSJ2 or 8x SSJ1 in the threads i looked but i can't find staff feedback on that, it's also accepted as 2x SSJ2.
 
So we get:

SSJ2 Gohan: 1 KiloFoe.

SSJ3 Goku (Buu): 2 KiloFoe.

SSJ Goku (BoG): 2 KiloFoe.

SSJ3 Goku (BoG): 8 KiloFoe.

SSJ3 Goku (beginning of Black arc): 16 KiloFoe.

Base Goku (halfway through Black arc): at least 16 KiloFoe.

Sooo still legit.
 
Adem Warlock69 said:
Nitro90 said:
Wait are you stacking he's warrior madness buff on top of already belt buff
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Why would he lose it?
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I'm not sure but i never saw the belt being mentionned to make Thor stronger when he is in his warrior's madness, don't know if there is a reason though or if the authors just don't think about it.
 
I mean

SSJ2 Goku = SSJ2 Majin Vegeta < Final Explosion =< Fat Majin Buu =< SSJ3 Goku

I don't see a problem with 4x SSJ2 honestly
 
It seems that Thor only has a AP advantage if he uses Thermo Blast against Low Ball Goku or WM against Mid Ball Goku
 
AwkguyDB said:
It seems that Thor only has a AP advantage if he uses Thermo Blast against Low Ball Goku or WM against Mid Ball Goku
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Warrior's madness was already dismissed multiple times as a legit win conditions, but actually would hurt Thor's chances.
 
AwkguyDB said:
It seems that Thor only has a AP advantage if he uses Thermo Blast against Low Ball Goku or WM against Mid Ball Goku
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Pretty sure even the Thor side agreed Warrior's madness would be an awful idea.
 
UchihaSlayer96 said:
AwkguyDB said:
It seems that Thor only has a AP advantage if he uses Thermo Blast against Low Ball Goku or WM against Mid Ball Goku
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Warrior's madness was already dismissed multiple times as a legit win conditions, but actually would hurt Thor's chances.
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gotcha so it looks like Thermo/God Blast is Thor Wincon here Goku has the ap advantage more than not
 
About the Thermo blast... is there any reason why Goku can't teleport away, dodge, shield himself with a barrier, overpower it with a kamehameha in SS3 etc....?
 
If Goku goes for the Kamehameha Thor absorbs it (it worked against a 2-C), and Thor would probably use it when he knows Goku couldn't avoid it
 
And I could cite all the times Thor DIDN'T absorb energy, and simply just got his ass kicked lol.
 
If he sees a Big energy beam coming his way he'll put Mjolnir in front of him and absorb it, why wouldn't he? he did it against Glory
 
Adem Warlock69 said:
If he sees a Big energy beam coming his way he'll put Mjolnir in front of him and absorb it, why wouldn't he? he did it against Glory
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The warp Kamehameha's whole purpose is to NOT give you the time to dodge or do anything about it, and it can obliterate people much stronger than Goku or at least on par with him.
 
Adem Warlock69 said:
If he sees a Big energy beam coming his way he'll put Mjolnir in front of him and absorb it, why wouldn't he? he did it against Glory
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Exactly and goku blast him from behind
 
Well he needs to charge it for it to be massively above his normal AP, also, his kamehameha would be weaker, if Thor cuts off his arm
 
Adem Warlock69 said:
Well he needs to charge it for it to be massively above his normal AP, also, his kamehameha would be weaker, if Thor cuts off his arm
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How would he cut it off when he's weaker lol?? Also one armed full power kamehameha is a thing, as Gohan did it against Cell. But it's irrelevant anyway.
 
Adem Warlock69 said:
Yes,But Jarnbjorn is like a Lightsaber
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And Goku has Analytical prediction so good it can counter Time Stop, AND Teleportation on top of that. Thor ain't catching him.
 
Adem Warlock69 said:
If he sees a Big energy beam coming his way he'll put Mjolnir in front of him and absorb it, why wouldn't he? he did it against Glory
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It's more likely he'd try to counter blast it or smack it the first time he see it, the second time i agreed he would try to absorb it but that's the thing, Thor is unlikely to survive the first time unless Goku goes full reckless.

But that's the thing, the warp kamehameha's whole point is that you don't see it coming, Thor put mjolnir in front of him and get a kamehameha in the back, he turn to the left, he get hit from the right etc.

Also for Jarnbjorn, Thor always had a slightly weaker durability than his weapon's AP TBH, i don't think it would close the AP gap.
 
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