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Son Goku fights the God of Thunder (12-16-0).

Goku has already faced energy absorber and Thor will try to smack away the attack before he'd try to absorb it, after he saw it once and how dangerous it is, then he'll absorb it but not the first time and with the AP gap, this first time will be the last unless Thor dodge or absorb.

Thor's absorption doesn't boost his AP 1 to 1 of what he absorbed as far as i know.

And using Warrior's madness is a false good idea for Thor IMO.
 
That is false, as Thor was able to briefly trade blows with Sentry as he was capable of absorbing a small amount of his energy.

Goku does use range in character so Thor can absorb at least once, and to top it off, Goku literally uses Saiyan Ki in his transformations and radiating that energy will hurt
 
Again absorbing random Ki blasts won't close the gap or even come close to it.

Can someone tell me when a random Ki blast actually hurt anyone in DB? They obviously don't put all their power into them. They're used for fodder enemies and to keep their distance lol. Absorbing a random Ki blast or two will NOT net Thor the victory in a million years lol. And that's not even mentioning that Goku's intuition is so strong that it can counter Time Stop, and with speed equalized that will be very relevant. Goku will be easily able to dodge everything thrown his way and will be able to instantly close the gap whenever he wants using Teleportation. It's really not that hard for Goku to just teleport behind him and one-shot with a Kamehameha, which will be too fast for him to react to as was the case with Cell.

And before anyone starts saying the Instant Kamehameha is OoC. Firstly it's far more in character than most of the abilities being argued for Thor. Secondly, it's not such an unlikely ability to use for him as both are commonly used powers by Goku lol.
 
A Kamehameha being absorbed will absolutely close the gap, especially since an attack almost 3x stronger then him allowed him to briefly close the gap against sentry.

Just throwing that out there.
 
Tons of people traded blow with Sentry, hell the fantastic four traded blow with molecule man, i don't see what it proves.
 
Schnee One said:
A Kamehameha being absorbed will absolutely close the gap, especially since an attack almost 3x stronger then him allowed him to briefly close the gap against sentry.
Just throwing that out there.
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Goku tanked his own kamehameha though, that's litteraly a training he does, it's not that the attack is 3x time stronger than him, it's that his power level triple while using it.
 
Schnee One said:
A Kamehameha being absorbed will absolutely close the gap, especially since an attack almost 3x stronger then him allowed him to briefly close the gap against sentry.

Just throwing that out there.
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Goku literally, not even once lol, started a fight off with a kamehameha. And if I missed an example it's probably because it's an obscure outlier. Very Ooc for him to start with his strongest attack.
 
Dragomer said:
Tons of people traded blow with Sentry, hell the fantastic four traded blow with molecule man, i don't see what it proves.
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.....Do I honestly need to explain why this comparison is awful? Using an outlier to disprove someone's argument is not going to get you anywhere.

Sentry is an accepted One Megafoe, that's even his justification for AP on his file.

Thor, and other 4Bs cannot match him normally due to his superior strength, in one instance of him being able to absorb an attack, he was able to briefly fight on par with him, albeit Sentrys regen got him outlasted

@Uchiha Oh Im not saying you're wrong, I'm just saiyan that a Kamehameha can help close the gap. Though I don't see how him doing it once is an outlier
 
And once again Goku will not give him such an amount of energy from the get go, and once He absorbed a few fodder Ki blasts that option gets thrown out the window entirely.

Once again I must reiterate that Goku isn't dumb.
 
Schnee One said:
Dragomer said:
Tons of people traded blow with Sentry, hell the fantastic four traded blow with molecule man, i don't see what it proves.
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.....Do I honestly need to explain why this comparison is awful? Using an outlier to disprove someone's argument is not going to get you anywhere.
Sentry is an accepted One Megafoe, that's even his justification for AP on his file.

Thor, and other 4Bs cannot match him normally due to his superior strength, in one instance of him being able to absorb an attack, he was able to briefly fight on par with him, albeit Sentrys regen got him outlasted
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That's not an outlier anymore than Thor's, especialy when the fantastic four did that multiple time.

Cool and he tangled with street levels and wall levels characters hundreds of time, hell, he traded blows with Thor without Thor absorbing anything so trying to say Thor trading blows with him mean his absorption make him as strong as anyone just by absorbing a fraction of their power isn't really a good argument.
 
Are you honestly saying that Thor is wall level now? Excuse me? So I actually have to argue why one isn't an outlier and the others clearly are? Cool, and Goku got one shotted by a laser pistol from a random Frieza guard.

And no, Sentry never traded blows with Thor without absorbing. Assuming the general inconsistency of Marvel ignores every feat a character has with an ability is simply downplay. That argument can be made with literally every character that has suffered an inconsistency Dragon Ball included
 
EmperorRorepme said:
@Dragomer
What makes his absorption feat an outlier? He was amped when he did that feat.
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I didn't say it was an outlier, i said it was not evidence that his absorption gave him that much power, we saw Thor trade blow with Sentry without any absorption before and after that event.
 
Schnee One said:
Are you honestly saying that Thor is wall level now? Excuse me? So I actually have to argue why one isn't an outlier and the others clearly are? Cool, and Goku got one shotted by a laser pistol from a random Frieza guard.
And no, Sentry never traded blows with Thor without absorbing. Assuming the general inconsistency of Marvel ignores every feat a character has with an ability is simply downplay. That argument can be made with literally every character that has suffered an inconsistency Dragon Ball included
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No, i'm arguing that trading blows with Sentry isn't an argument to say his absorption is that good when tons of people trade blows with Sentry without being all that impressive and that Thor did it before without absorption.

Laser pistol that's moon level at least.

This isn't downplay, that's just putting Thor trading blows with Sentry into context, trying to overplay the part absorption played in that event isn't a valid argument.
 
Probably not considering Goku would probably fire off normal Ki Blasts first and see them get absorbed then think "OK, last time I fought a guy who could absorb energy it made him stronger, let's not do that again."
 
XSOULOFCINDERX said:
Probably not considering Goku would probably fire off normal Ki Blasts first and see them get absorbed then think "OK, last time I fought a guy who could absorb energy it made him stronger, let's not do that again."
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Thor doesn't even start with absorption.
 
Wait...Both The Thermo and God blasts would one shot Ssj3 Goku, cause the're above Galactus, Who stalemated Sentry, who's in the MegaFoes
 
Going Thor FRA. Seems like Goku has the AP advantage but Thor has the skill and experience advantage, stamina advantage and hax he'd be willing to use if he needs to.
 
Sentry never traded blows with Thor when Thor wasn't amped outside of one instance where Sentry was holding back, only to say "**** it" and restrain the avengers https://m.imgur.com/wz4y1k

Moon level to a 4B, lol.

You're missing said context, behind most if not every fight, because honestly Sentry and Thor rarely even fight often to begin with, and to top it off Thor in base is only 3x weaker then Sentry but loses every battle they are in, so using that argument that they trade blows prior to this is doesn't even dispute the argument because the gap isn't enough to say it's out of the question entirely
 
Adem Warlock69 said:
Wait...Both The Thermo and God blasts would one shot Ssj3 Goku, cause the're above Galactus, Who stalemated Sentry, who's in the MegaFoes
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We don't actually use that fight for scaling.
 
Schnee One said:
Sentry never traded blows with Thor when Thor wasn't amped outside of one instance where Sentry was holding back, only to say "**** it" and restrain the avengers https://m.imgur.com/wz4y1knMoo level to a 4B, lol.
You're missing said context, behind most if not every fight, because honestly Sentry and Thor rarely even fight often to begin with, and to top it off Thor in base is only 3x weaker then Sentry but loses every battle they are in, so using that argument that they trade blows prior to this is doesn't even dispute the argument because the gap isn't enough to say it's out of the question entirely
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Thor wasn't really amped in any occasion i can think off.

Better than ants enslaving the whole asgardian race.

If we go with absorption only closing a 3x gap, i don't see why we are even talking about it since the AP gap between Goku and Thor is bigger than that and you yourself said that Thor lost those so clearly absorption doesn't make Thor able to win while having an AP disadvantage.

So even if we accept those claims, they don't help, especialy since Thor has a huge chance of just dying or going berserk before using any absorption, that Goku has already encountered anyway.
 
XSOULOFCINDERX said:
We are using Low Ball Goku right? Because Mid-Ball Goku would probably One-Shot Thor with SSJ2.
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It's not like Goku is going with more than the form he needs to fight against his opponent tbh. The agreed value is the midball which is a bit above 1 MegaFoe with SSJ.
 
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