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Small yang fix that upgrades people and aura

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So we need to change our wording of her semblance because we just assume she gets two times stronger every time she uses her semblance. But that is only for EACH HIT she absorbs, for example if you punch yang once and she hits you with her semblance she hits you with two times the stored energy, however If she absorbs multiple attacks and hit you she hits you with all those stored hits with two times the power basically one shotting someone just like the mech she one shot with just two hits absorbed. This would mean Adams aura being one shot makes sense as yang took multiple attacks from adam and stored all that energy she absorbed and fired ALL of that stored power and multipled it by two basically one shotting Adams aura

tldr yang's semblance Varies in power depending on how much hits she has absorbed

because it doesn't even have to be a 2x amp with each hit
its 2x the energy shes hit with total
if she's hit with one punch she hits back with twice the energy of that punch
if shes hit with 10 punchs, she hits back with twice the energy of the accumulated energy of those 10 punchs

For BeACoN AnD post beacon yang: she took 22 hits from Mercury (not counting the air boats) 22 hits x 4 tons = 88 x 2 = 176 tons, 8-A

Useing 6.935 Tons as yangs base strength for post haven
13.87, 76.285, 6.935, 48.545
From the moonslice absorption alone shes hitting with 13.87 + 76.285 + 6.935 + 48.545 = 145.635 tons
She took 13 normal attacks
So 13 x 6.935 = 90.155 x 2 = 180.31 tons
180.31 + 145.635 = 325.945 tons x 2 = 651.89 tons
8-A max aura durability and max burn for post haven

Btw Here is how much attacks Adam absorbed and sent back
1 shot and 1 punch and then clones (uses up stored energy) 2 hits
1 punch, 1 punch, 1 punch, 4 punches, 1 more punch, 3 shots and then more clones to destract and energy blast yang takes, 11 hits absorbed
1 punch and then moonslice blast that damaged her robot arm, 1 hit absorbed
4 hits and then clash with Blake launching her back into the cliff, 1 hitting the ground, 1 spin and the semblance, 7 hits absorbed

Adams base power x how much hits Adam absorbed from her (because he doesn't send it back twice as hard, he just stores all the hits and sends it back how much times his sword was hit)

Yangs Semblance is going to look like this:
'Varies, Up to at least 8-A with Burn' | 'Varies, Up to at least 8-A with Burn' | 'Varies, Up to at least 8-A with Burn' | 'Varies, Up to at most Low 7-B with Burn'

aura durability for everyone is 'Varies with Aura (Aura functions as a forcefield with a 'health bar' rather than a flat durability, and is able to withstand up to higher levels of damage before breaking but can be broken by a sufficient number of weaker attacks)

Proof about yangs Semblance haveing a two time boost to whatever hits she gets hit by and stores giveing the hits she stored a two times boost. Taiyang her was talking about just one hit here as a example

Blake explains Adams semblance at 5:21and says it's LIKE yangs where it stores up damage and throws it back


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Proof that the anthologys are cannon:
"The Manga anthologies are stated, by Kerry and Gray, to be "very much in tune with the show" and that "very minimal feedback had to be given on canon stuff". They explained the collaboration process in which as they got early versions of the stories and gave the artist feedback saying "oh this isn’t canon, do this instead" and mentions that a lot of the moments that they came up with for the books where things that they maybe could've shown if they had a little more time in the show."
the anthologies literally had to go through a vetting process by the writers of the show to keep them in-line with the show's canon
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"With each hit she gets stronger, and she uses that energy to fight back!" - Ruby

"Yang's semblance absorbs damage from hits she takes and adds them to her own physical power. After taking just two attacks from a mech suit, she was strong enough to shatter the whole thing in one blow."
seeing as they were part of RT at the time and worked with the CRWBY on her analysis This is good supporting evidence
 
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To find out her max output we can look at her fight with a held back Mercury and Adam to find out how much hits she took to find the maximum limit to her semblance

(Hits taken and stored) x 2 = her max power with semblance if she stores it until the end of a fight
 
Now here is how much attacks she took from the Mercury fight. Yang gets hit by 22 physical hits that aren't air blasts (it's definitely higher with air blasts counted)

So 22 x how strong she is normally = how strong she is max power semblance

But that's her beacon arc self who has less aura then her time skip counterpart
 
Now for adam, as his semblance is the same as yangs, absorbing hits and storeing them to throw them back harder then his base power

Adams semblance will be added to yang (post haven and atlas) semblance max power.

Adams semblance: (amount of hits he absorbs) x base power = how strong his semblance is and how strong each moonslice yang absorbed is
 
Now here is how much attacks she took from the Mercury fight. Yang gets hit by 22 physical hits that aren't air blasts (it's definitely higher with air blasts counted)

So 22 x how strong she is normally = how strong she is max power semblance

But that's her beacon arc self who has less aura then her time skip counterpart


This would be "at least " because you didn't include the blasts, right?
 
Now for adams fight with post haven yang.
Adam hit yang with 13 normal attacks and 9 moonslices, however 5 hits were just from one moonslice alone via clones, but yang did take 4 normal moonslices

The Amount of hits Adam absorbed for each moonslice:
1st one: 1 shot and 1 punch and then clones (uses up stored energy) 2 hits
Second one: 1 punch, 1 punch, 1 punch, 4 punches, 1 more punch, 3 shots and then more clones to destract and energy blast yang takes, 11 hits absorbed
Third one: 1 punch and then moonslice blast that damaged her robot arm, 1 hit absorbed
Forth one: 4 hits and then clash with Blake launching her back into the cliff, 1 hitting the ground, 1 spin and the semblance, 7 hits absorbed

So with the boosted damage taken In to account, accounting for the additional air blasts that yang took against merc this is extremely consistent with the amount of damage her aura can take
Using 176 tons as yang's base strength (Scaling to mercury who was basically fine after semblance amped beacon arc yang beat him down in their fight) each of Adams moonslices are 352, 1936, 176, 1232 tons

From the moonslice absorption alone shes hitting with 704 + 352 + 3872 + 2464 = 7392 tons

Because she took 13 normal attacks
13 x 176 = 2288 x 2 = 4576 tons
4576 + 7392 = 11968 tons

Tldr she can take approximately 31 attacks on her own level and use her semblance before her aura goes down, technically we can backscale mercury's fight using that number...
 
I believe so also Honestly never mind, backscaling the number of hits from adam to mercury puts us in the realm of assumptions, best to just use what we see hit even if it's a lowball.

So beacon arc yang can take and absorb 22 hits with her aura and semblance (max power) and mercury would scale to beacon semblance max power yang and basically what I said about Adam applies to anyone post Haven's aura and to yangs Semblance (max power) of course and Adams semblance too (max power)
 
I believe so also Honestly never mind, backscaling the number of hits from adam to mercury puts us in the realm of assumptions, best to just use what we see hit even if it's a lowball.

So beacon arc yang can take and absorb 22 hits with her aura and semblance (max power) and mercury would scale to beacon semblance max power yang and basically what I said about Adam applies to anyone post Haven's aura and to yangs Semblance (max power) of course and Adams semblance too (max power)
Yeah It seems better to use the hits. Anyway the "at least" will cover it.
 
guess what I was plugging their atlas arc ap into the numbers from Adam's fight for their auras max durability for the atalas arc is 5 megatons (also for yangs max power semblance for atalas)

Meaning that vines aura tanking ironwood's 6 megaton bomb and shielding the town despite it killing him inside the explosion isnt an outlier as well
 
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Before you say their aura durability scales to their AP. No it only does if their aura is one shot at full health and not tiered or been out in the cold or heat or after a getting hit once

But yeah this also explains how people like winter (atals arc) can live getting hit by a small city level+ attack by cinder with fall maiden powers active (even if it broke her aura after a long fight with base cider)
 
adivina qué estaba conectando su arco de atlas en los números de la lucha de Adam por sus auras, la durabilidad máxima para el arco de atalas es de 5 megatones (también para la apariencia de poder máximo de yangs para atalas)

Lo que significa que el aura de las enredaderas derrumba la bomba de 6 megatones de Ironwood y protege la ciudad a pesar de que lo mató, en cambio, la explosión tampoco es un caso atípico.
Antes de que digas, la durabilidad de su aura se escala a su AP. No, solo lo hace si su aura es una oportunidad de salud completa y no está escalonada o ha estado expuesta al frío o al calor o después de recibir un golpe una vez.

Pero sí, esto también explica cómo las personas como el invierno (atals arc) pueden vivir siendo golpeadas por un nivel de ciudad pequeña + ataque por ceniza con poderes de doncella de otoño activos (incluso si rompió su aura después de una larga pelea con sidra base)
Wow wow thats a lot of information but I get where are you going
 
This seems incredibly contrived. Could you link an official source that states that's how her Semblace works? Because it does not make that much sense in context. Yang would have absolutely no problem steamrolling the verse's god tiers if we believe this is how her Semblace works.
Alright. However this is ONLY if she uses her semblance at MAX power aka absorbed enough attacks to almost break her aura and then use her semblance to break her aura after useing her semblance
 

Yangs dad says she can throw it back twice as hard so I don't know how glass got that idea in his head that it's from the mech fight also It's also confirmed to work that way in the guidebook to back up what tai said
 
Word of advice when you make any CRTs in the future, please have the screenshots or clips on the OP so that way we don't have to ask you for proof. It saves a lot of time and makes the discussions go by a lot faster.
 
I don't mind waiting.

But fundamentally, this breaks the entire scaling of the verse because it means Yang at her very best can steamroll any enemy with ease.

Let alone the fact that absolutely no one in the series sans the literal god tiers have feats that would equate to the level of AP output Yang theoretically can reach.
 
Eh the aura scaleing covers that and yang is "up to xx" for a reason. Because her semblance varies depending on how much hits she takes or how strong the attack she absorbs is, it's just that's her aura and semblances max limits

Also explains how the group can live maiden attacks in Atlas yet can't harm them also why yang had to get knocked out frist by the writers, because yang is the gangs "power house"
 
Okay so... "hit back twice as hard" is just a saying. Search for "hit back twice as hard" on Google and see how many hits you get (I got 1.8 million for exactly "hit back twice as hard"). It's not that obscure of a saying in English.

I don't think we can take what Tai says literally and apply it as a 2x multiplier without better evidence than a father-daughter conversation where one is trying to encourage the other not to give up and to keep fighting—because that's the exact kind of context the saying is used in.
 
Okay so... "hit back twice as hard" is just a saying. Search for "hit back twice as hard" on Google and see how many hits you get (I got 1.8 million for exactly "hit back twice as hard"). It's not that obscure of a saying in English.

I don't think we can take what Tai says literally and apply it as a 2x multiplier without better evidence than a father-daughter conversation where one is trying to encourage the other not to give up and to keep fighting—because that's the exact kind of context the saying is used in.
the guidebook tho flat out says that she hits back with twice as much power and the other evidence
 
The guidebook scan you have on the OP doesn't really say she gets a double boost with EACH HIT, that's just saying the damage she stores will eventually be sent back with double the intensity.
 
so we have three in-show descriptions of her semblance working as described, one scan from the guidebook, a scan from a canon manga, a scan from a canon comic, and a description from a combat ability analysis from a team that worked with the CRWBY, all saying the same thing, that Yang absorbs the damage of each attack she takes and hits back with twice as much power
 
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The guidebook scan you have on the OP doesn't really say she gets a double boost with EACH HIT, that's just saying the damage she stores will eventually be sent back with double the intensity.
"With each hit she gets stronger, and she uses that energy to fight back!" - Ruby
and no, its saying that she is hitting back with double the intensity of each punch, it really can't be interpretd any othr way
she absorbs kinetic energy and sends it back with double the intensity
 
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