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So after seeking the justifications for each of the ratings currently listed on our Bayonetta Profiles, I found only one scan currently listed, which evidently most of the verse currently scales to. It was what granted them 2-C.
I am referring to this.
Of course the text seems quite explicit, but when you click the link itself, it is nothing more than some casual statements from the mouth of Kamiya. Perhaps you can see why I am quite skeptical of this justification. Historically, Kamiya has not been seen as a very viable source of information regarding power scaling. There was an ephemeral time when DMC also relied solely on Kamiya quotes for it's 3-A rating previously in 2017. And later, the use of this quote was stricken.
But perhaps there is something more? Something suitable?
Another Kamiya statement of course. He does reference a guidebook, which I am interested in seeing myself if one can find it. But... I am not sure of this use of "parallel time axis'" to justify a 2-C rating. It seems to be built off a divergent multiverse model, where the disruption of the past creates a split timeline, one notable example of this being the Cell saga in Dragon Ball Z. I'm uncertain if this in of itself would constitute a rating. And I still need a statement for her "reuniting a trinity of realities". However should this feat be legitimate, it should be noted that in this context, this feat would scale to The Eyes of The World. This is important for later.
And now we arrive at Loptr, also known as Aesir. With the eyes of the world, I do recall there being explicit statements for him which would warrant at the very least a 3-A rating. Perhaps even 2-C. But this state was also in the context to him possessing both Eyes. Now surely if this was legitimate, it would scale to Bayonetta, yes?... I don't believe so.
Here you see Aesir able to overpower Bayonetta, with just the right eye. He then proceeds to strip Bayonetta of the Left Eye, becoming far more powerful. Baldr and Bayonetta team up and theres a round two. The gameplay itself might suggest Bayonetta is capable of fighting back, but i'm unsure if this is simply PIS, given just moments before she was being beaten by a weaker Aesir. Even then, they only manage a killing blow once Loki erases the eyes. Bayonetta herself scaling I have cast doubt on, but I am willing to hear alternatives.
Currently, I believe at the very least, Aesir deserves a 3-A rating. I will allow further discussion to decide what to do with the rest of the cast.
I am referring to this.
Of course the text seems quite explicit, but when you click the link itself, it is nothing more than some casual statements from the mouth of Kamiya. Perhaps you can see why I am quite skeptical of this justification. Historically, Kamiya has not been seen as a very viable source of information regarding power scaling. There was an ephemeral time when DMC also relied solely on Kamiya quotes for it's 3-A rating previously in 2017. And later, the use of this quote was stricken.
But perhaps there is something more? Something suitable?
Far more powerful than before. At her full strength she has the power to reunite the Trinity of Realities, along with a parallel universe that has its own time axis into a single universe where Paradiso reigns supreme.
Another Kamiya statement of course. He does reference a guidebook, which I am interested in seeing myself if one can find it. But... I am not sure of this use of "parallel time axis'" to justify a 2-C rating. It seems to be built off a divergent multiverse model, where the disruption of the past creates a split timeline, one notable example of this being the Cell saga in Dragon Ball Z. I'm uncertain if this in of itself would constitute a rating. And I still need a statement for her "reuniting a trinity of realities". However should this feat be legitimate, it should be noted that in this context, this feat would scale to The Eyes of The World. This is important for later.
And now we arrive at Loptr, also known as Aesir. With the eyes of the world, I do recall there being explicit statements for him which would warrant at the very least a 3-A rating. Perhaps even 2-C. But this state was also in the context to him possessing both Eyes. Now surely if this was legitimate, it would scale to Bayonetta, yes?... I don't believe so.
Here you see Aesir able to overpower Bayonetta, with just the right eye. He then proceeds to strip Bayonetta of the Left Eye, becoming far more powerful. Baldr and Bayonetta team up and theres a round two. The gameplay itself might suggest Bayonetta is capable of fighting back, but i'm unsure if this is simply PIS, given just moments before she was being beaten by a weaker Aesir. Even then, they only manage a killing blow once Loki erases the eyes. Bayonetta herself scaling I have cast doubt on, but I am willing to hear alternatives.
Currently, I believe at the very least, Aesir deserves a 3-A rating. I will allow further discussion to decide what to do with the rest of the cast.