Shouldn't Lord Boros and Saitama be Moon level?

[Intruvious]

I did a little digging and found out that the Energy required to destroy the surface of the Earth (completely, along with mountains and stuff) is more than the Energy required to destroy the Moon.

1.5*10^30 = The energy required to destroy the surface of Earth.

1.24*10^29 = The energy required to blow-up the moon.

Correct me if I am wrong, I am no expert at this, was just informing.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

I thought it was Multi-Continent level.

 

[Intruvious]

I thought it was Multi-Continent level.

I know, that's what is written on their pages, but if they are able to output more Energy than it is required to blow-up the moon, shouldn't they be upgraded to Tier 5-C?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Gonna need some math for this because this feat has been calced multiple times and the result as never been above High 6-A

 

[Intruvious]

Gonna need some math for this because this feat has been calced multiple times and the result as never been above High 6-A

Yeah, hopefully the Calc group can notice this thread. The thing is, we have never seen what would happen if the Roaring Star Cannon hit Earth. I just went by what is written on Boros' profile.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

I...what? You gave numbers but have no math to back up what you said in the OP? How does that make any sense?

 

[Akreious]

It depends on what level of surface level destruction occurs.

Life-wiping like a Meteor that wiped out the Dinosaurs isn't going to be very impressive while Boros could alternatively be referring to the entire Upper Mantle, giving much higher results.

 

[Agnaa]

Yeah you should probably write up a calc, explaining how you arrived at those numbers.

 

[Intruvious]

I...what? You gave numbers but have no math to back up what you said in the OP? How does that make any sense?

I already said "I did a little digging", what I mean by that is, I found these numbers from the Internet. The energy required to destroy the surface of the Earth was pretty hard to find, but here is the site I got it from: http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/usefultables.php

And for the Moon, you can find it on many websites.

 

[Intruvious]

It depends on what level of surface level destruction occurs.
Life-wiping like a Meteor that wiped out the Dinosaurs isn't going to be very impressive while Boros could alternatively be referring to the entire Upper Mantle, giving much higher results.

I think he can completely destroy the crust of the Earth as it is written that he can "shave" and "ruin" the Earth.

 

[Agnaa]

So the description for that number is "Energy required blow off Terra's crust into space"

Since that doesn't have any explanation behind it, and I don't think there's a way to figure out how they would have gotten that number, we'd be better off trusting calculations done by our members which we can verify.

 

[Intruvious]

So the description for that number is "Energy required blow off Terra's crust into space"
Since that doesn't have any explanation behind it, and I don't think there's a way to figure out how they would have gotten that number, we'd be better off trusting calculations done by our members which we can verify.

True, it's disappointing they didn't link to the calculation for it. I will be looking for any other websites where there are proper calculations for it (if any).

 

[Intruvious]

@Agnaa, the TNT equivalent is given there. I think that is what they are using to calculate the Energy. Relatively, of course. Still not sure, though.

Also, can anyone link the calc for the Multi-continent tier?

 

[Agnaa]

Converting TNT and Joules is really simple, the noteworthy part is how they actually got to that TNT/Joule number in the first place.

 

[Intruvious]

Agreed, have seen many people cite this site, though. But, that's beside the point. Will continue to search.

Anyways, can you link the calculation for the Multi-Continental feat?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

This is what we currently use for surface wiping

 

[Apatheticskell]

Agreed with 5-C(he should be 5-B though)

 

[Intruvious]

Agreed with 5-C(he should be 5-B though)

Well, he isnt since Murata said that his words are non canon. So, about him being Planet busting was not canon, hence the mods can not use it, they can only use what has been shown up till now. And, frankly, I like that. Thats how it should be. Although, I would go for Low 5C for Saitama, the Calculation done by the team makes sense.

 

[Therefir]

This is what we currently use for surface wiping

Actually, I think there's a problem with that calc, he used the airburst explosion formula (explosions that occur in the air) instead of the surface explosion formula, which is for the explosions that occur at ground level.

Earth's circumference / 2 = 20040 km or 20040000 m

W = R^3*((27136*P + 8649)^(1/2)/13568 - 93/13568)^2

W is yield in tons of tnt, R is radius in meters, and P is pressure of the shockwave in bars, the standard overpressure is 20 psi or 1.37895 bars.

W = 20040000^3*((27136*1.37895 + 8649)^(1/2)/13568 - 93/13568)^2 = 646812891015665675.88 Tons of TNT

Yield = 646.81 Petatons of TNT

It's just a slightly upgrade.

 

[Intruvious]

Actually, I think there's a problem with that calc, he used the airburst explosion formula (explosions that occur in the air) instead of the surface explosion formula, which is for the explosions that occur on the surface.

Earth's circumference / 2 = 20040 km or 20040000 m

W = R^3*((27136*P + 8649)^(1/2)/13568 - 93/13568)^2

W is yield in tons of tnt, R is radius in meters, and P is pressure of the shockwave in bars, the standard overpressure is 20 psi or 1.37895 bars.

W = 20040000^3*((27136*1.37895 + 8649)^(1/2)/13568 - 93/13568)^2 = 646812891015665675.88 Tons of TNT

Yield = 646.81 Petatons of TNT

It's just a slightly upgrade.

Is that the Minimum yield? Because the Max he calculated in 1 minute was 17.15 Exatonnes.

 

[Therefir]

Yes, that is the minimum yield for timeframeless surface bust.

 

[Andytrenom]

If we are using the explosion formula for Boros' feat and the value in the OP comes from blowing the Earth's crust into space (which I guess is a KE feat), then it's obvious that there can't be an upgrade.

 

[AKM sama]

IIRC the OBD calc for the same thing yields a much lower result than even High 6-A.

 

[Andytrenom]

@AKM the "blasting the crust into space thing" or "creating an explosion across the earth's surface"?

 

[Intruvious]

@AKM the "blasting the crust into space thing" or "creating an explosion across the earth's surface"?

According to how Boros says it, I am inclined to think that he can completrly destroy the Earths crust. Leaving nothing but hot magma pouring out.

 

[Intruvious]

If you were to use the value I provided, and put it in Boros' formula, how can it not be upgraded? There is more kinetic Energy, right? Am I missing something?

 

[Agnaa]

Because we don't know how the value was derived, we can't use it.

 

[Andytrenom]

It was never displayed on-screen so we can't make any assumptions about what it would it do other than destroy the Earth's surface.

"Destroying the Earth's surface" has a general calc, which is what we can use in this case.

 

[Intruvious]

Because we don't know how the value was derived, we can't use it.

I know, I am talking about what if it was used. There would be an increase, right? This is what Andy said: "If we are using the explosion formula for Boros' feat and the value in the OP comes from blowing the Earth's crust into space (which I guess is a KE feat), then it's obvious that there can't be an upgrade."

I am confused about the last part.

 

[Andytrenom]

Replace "if" with "since" and that would be a more accurate version of what I was trying to say.

 

[Intruvious]

Replace "if" with "since" and that would be a more accurate version of what I was trying to say.

Oh, okay. Cool...

 

[Qawsedf234]

Without the feat being demonstrated the most you can give it is a High 6A rating.

 

[Schnee_One]

I think I should state this.

The 511 Pettaton calc is STILL on Boros's page

That should likely be removed and replaced with Kep's 366

 

[Andytrenom]

Ask Kep to make a blog about it (if he hasn't already) and I'll gladly change it.

 

[Schnee_One]

I need to find it