Satoru Gojo vs Ben Tennyson (No Alien X) | 11-7-1

[Westcoast5005]

Also the show never gave a timeframe for that attack you just made that up

 

[Westcoast5005]

Gojo could be subsonic and still interupt the meatball from performing his very long feat. Ben has no knowledge of what gojo can do and arguably can't even see his moves.

ion even know why am talking about the black hole when Ben speed blitz and uses gravity attacks

 

[Westcoast5005]

Which u still haven’t proved gojo resist

 

[Dr._whiteee]

Also the show never gave a timeframe for that attack you just made that up

Bro had to shoot out waves to begin the process. Dude's had a whole ass conversation before the blackhole even formed and then there is time for the get away. The moment meatball stands still to begin, Gojo is going to be analyzing with six eyes.

You act like you just showed dude creating an instant blackhole lol.

 

[Westcoast5005]

You keep talking about the black hole, focus on how he gon stop the gravity attacks

 

[Dr._whiteee]

You keep talking about the black hole, focus on how he gon stop the gravity attacks

By existing.

You also didn't answer my questions about ben's senses, from what I can see Ben's answer to the question of if he can even perceive gojo's attacks is

Spoiler

 

[Westcoast5005]

keep yapping u haven't proved gojo resist gravity
ben doesn't need to see gojo attacks when he just speed blitzes him

 

[Dr._whiteee]

keep yapping u haven't proved gojo resist infinity
ben doesn't need to see gojo attacks when he just speed blitzes him

I've seen all I need to see.

 

[Westcoast5005]

typo i meant gravity
yet still can't prove it wouldn't work u keep on using kenjaku's

 

[Westcoast5005]

like thats like saying takaba ability wouldn't work on gojo cause gojo is the strongest it just dumb and doesn't equate to anything

 

[Dr._whiteee]

like thats like saying takaba ability wouldn't work on gojo cause gojo is the strongest it just dumb and doesn't equate to anything

It's not. It is a fact that Infinity counters 99% of the verses jujutsu. Takaba is literally called out as an outlier to this with his CT being stated to rival gojo. The only other work around to infinity have been powernull and better concept manipulation. Gojo doesn't need feats of blocking every jujutsu in the verse when the narrative and portrayal both highlight this fact.

I already also explained how gojo's powers take ontological precedence over gravity. A point you never responded to. I probably won't be continuing this convo but you should really look over how the scaling/abilities work.

 

[Westcoast5005]

yo u just talking show prove infinity counters gravity.

 

[MrLuk2000]

I just realized that Atomix and Way Big aren't restricted in which case Ben can use either one to just one shot

 

[Westcoast5005]

they can't bypass infinty unless they nuke the planet which is unlikely

 

[Westcoast5005]

also put my vote for ben

 

[Zabazab]

Ben's potential wincons aren't looking nearly as likely as Gojo eventually using Hollow Purple or Unlimited Void, imo.

 

[Westcoast5005]

gojo gets speed blitz cant use any of those attack

 

[Westcoast5005]

and if he's using clock work pretty sure unlimited void doesn't work

 

[Zabazab]

Getting blitzed doesn't matter if he can't be touched. Hollow Purple is invisible to aliens without ESP, and Unlimited Void is a guaranteed-hit.

 

[Westcoast5005]

he can be touched by gravity. yall haven't proved that infinity counters gravity also he doesn't matter if ben can see the attacks or not gojo wouldn't have a chance to use it

 

[Zabazab]

There are six (technically seven) things in JJK that can bypass Limitless: Neutral.
Kenjaku's Cursed Technique to control gravity is not one of them.

 

[Westcoast5005]

There are six (technically seven) things in JJK that can bypass Limitless: Neutral.
Kenjaku's Cursed Technique to control gravity is not one of them.

when was it stated that kenjaku gravity is not one of it

 

[Westcoast5005]

also gravitack gravity works like telekenisis which should be able to bypass gojo

 

[Zabazab]

when was it stated that kenjaku gravity is not one of it

It's implicated through the fact that Kenjaku can't fight Gojo. He could just crush Gojo with gravity if his Technique bypassed Infinity, but instead he seals him. The presumption should be that a JJK Technique cannot bypass Infinity unless stated otherwise, it's that sort of ability.

also gravitack gravity works like telekenisis which should be able to bypass gojo

TK is also used in JJK, it can't bypass Infinity.

 

[Westcoast5005]

It's implicated through the fact that Kenjaku can't fight Gojo. He could just crush Gojo with gravity if his Technique bypassed Infinity, but instead he seals him. The presumption should be that a JJK Technique cannot bypass Infinity unless stated otherwise, it's that sort of ability.


TK is also used in JJK, it can't bypass Infinity.

You just assuming, gojo is stronger faster and more powerful than Kenny nothing implies is gravity attack would not work. Also y’all are forgetting that infinity isn’t the only reason gojo is feared that was shown in his fight vs Sukuna nobody comes close to them even without their hax

 

[Westcoast5005]

Also show prove of telekinesis not working on gojo

 

[Deidalius]

I'm leaning more towards favoring Gojo right now. The Ben arguments aren't very convincing.

 

[MrLuk2000]

Again, do I need to point out that since Way Big and Atomix aren't restricted Ben can just eventually use one of them and one shot?

 

[Westcoast5005]

I'm leaning more towards favoring Gojo right now. The Ben arguments aren't very convincing.

Why tho nothing as never implied that gojo wil be unaffected by gravity and the jjk fans haven’t proved anything

 

[Arkenis]

Ben fra

 

[Zabazab]

Again, do I need to point out that since Way Big and Atomix aren't restricted Ben can just eventually use one of them and one shot?

How do they bypass Limitless?

 

[Dr._whiteee]

Since nothing has been given regarding Ben's ability to sense CE, shifting my vote to Gojo

 

[Westcoast5005]

Since nothing has been given regarding Ben's ability to sense CE, shifting my vote to Gojo

Gojo has not been shown to be unaffected by gravity

 

[Westcoast5005]

Also what’s stopping Ben from transforming to toe pick that’s a guaranteed win con

 

[Westcoast5005]

This is gojo from the fight with Sukuna he doesn’t have is blind fold

 

[Zabazab]

Also what’s stopping Ben from transforming to toe pick that’s a guaranteed win con

It's a 1/70 chance that he turns into him.

The blindfold stuff is nonsense, Gojo can see through it.

 

[Westcoast5005]

It's a 1/70 chance that he turns into him.

The blindfold stuff is nonsense, Gojo can see through it.

The omnitrix gives Ben the right alien for the right situation it as always been treated as so for the wiki

 

[Westcoast5005]

Yeah Ben wins regardless because if he transforms to toe pick it’s gg

 

[Deidalius]

Again, do I need to point out that since Way Big and Atomix aren't restricted Ben can just eventually use one of them and one shot?

You haven't explained how they work and how they one shot.

 

[Zabazab]

The omnitrix gives Ben the right alien for the right situation it as always been treated as so for the wiki

Is it not that he receives an Alien that can survive a situation, rather than one that can fulfill the task he needs to fulfill even if neither he nor the Omnitrix can know how to do such a thing?