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Speed equalized. Yamcha is serious as well as Saitama. So, who wins?
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Saitama VS Yamcha
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If I'm not mistaken, there was an extensive thread that had a seemingly identical premise. https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/868740 Supposedly, it was closed for having concluded, so I would assume the match finished up. Why the results from it aren't on the profiles of Saitama &/or Yamcha, I don't know.
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Well, if there're already results, I'd say contact a mod and ask them to add it. I looked at the thread and believe it should be added. There isn't any reason for it not to've been.Imaginym said:
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Saitama may win via Tabelflip and consecutive serious punches.They are both planet lvl and we don't know on what lvl.
Also,i don't see how Raditz wins against Saitama.
Also,i don't see how Raditz wins against Saitama.
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OP didn't mention what Yamcha is that,i suppose it is Sayian Saga wich is scaled from Piccolo's 69 zetatonns(59 is baseline).if so,Saitama should win via consecutive serious punches.
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@Dz
SBA dictates strongest version. This is android saga Yamcha.
SBA dictates strongest version. This is android saga Yamcha.
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Stompish then.
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Yes. It is. The matchup was already removed for being a stomp.
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Why is considered unnecessary?DMB 1 said:
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Saitama vs Saibamen was removee from Saitama page
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Either way, previous matches against characters Yamcha is superior to shows that Yamcha has a decisive victory, if not a stomp.
Up until not long ago, Saitama's best feat was a cloud splitting feat that gave him, like, what, High 6-A? And his best scaling has been scaling to Boros, who was a Planet Buster. Saitama's best statement was his author claiming he could blow up/destroy Earth if Saitama wanted to.
Simply destroying Earth is baseline Planet Level, isn't it?
Now what about Yamcha? Well.... Piccolo has blown up the moon from Earth before the saiyans arrived.
Even then, he was Planet Level. There's a calc indicating the result you can find linked in Piccolo's Attack Potency, too, if you're curious.
Radditz was stronger than, or comparable to Piccolo & Goku when they fought, & mostly lost because of Special Beam Cannon drilling through him while he was held by Goku.
A Saibaman is as strong as Radditz.
Yamcha is stronger than a Saibaman; He died due to the Saibaman he thought was defeated using a suicide attack -with him in a grab hold- while his guard was down.
Even if we ignore SBA saying to use the strongest version -which is a Yamcha as strong as Goku during his Saiyan Saga fight against Vegeta- Yamcha is still a plenty good match for a baseline Planet Level if I understand his rating right.
After all, Yamcha is at least stronger than a Saibaman, which is equal to Radditz, who took on 2 roughly Planet Level characters at once.
But even without a statistical advantage, Saitama has shown himself to be oblivious, not remarkably intelligent (His poor grade in the hero exam, forgetting what day of the week it was, etc.), & isn't always focused.
Not only that, he's not actually a properly trained martial artists. And he sure can't fly or use ki.
Meanwhile, Yamcha IS a trained martial artist; He's fought in tourneys & made his own martial art style -Wolf Fang Fist- and can fly & use ki.
In a ranged fight, Saitama has almost no good options; He can make shockwaves, but again, those are like, Tier 6? A 5-B won't feel those. Speed Equalized makes pursuit more difficult. Enhanced Sight can only do so much.
At range, Saitama struggles to find any way to attack Yamcha, while Yamcha can attack with ki blasts & kamehamehas.
He could try maybe throwing rocks like he does with Serious Table Flip. But that might not be damaging enough, & for an opponent like Yamcha who can fly & doesn't mind the ground being disturbed as much.
As defense, STF doesn't help; Yamcha's spirit ball shows he can control the motion of his ki, & this is ignoring the option of just moving to or aiming where there are no rocks in the way. Or just penetrating the rocks with his ki.
And as cover, STF doesn't help much either, because Yamcha can probably use ki sense to detect Saitama, plus the rocks might not effectively block his field of view if he's flying.
Serious Consecutive Side Hops? It can create a shockwave... but AFAIK, it's close range. Even if it is planetary like his Serious Strike's shockwaves, Yamcha can match that range with Ki, & Afterimages aren't that new to him. In theory, spamming ki blasts against this, or just Yamcha swinging his spirit ball through the line could thwart this.
Consecutive Normal Punches?
Wolf Fang Fist: Yamcha's trademark attack. It is a very fast series of powerful punches, swipes, and kicks. Before the attack, a wolf's howl can be heard, along with an aura around Yamcha.
Yamcha LAUGHS at Consecutive Normal Punches & does it better; Again, he's a trained martial artist, & one with a flurry of fists -& more!- as his signature attack.
Serious Headbutt -& I suppose STF & SCSH- might catch him off-guard for being unconvential, but surprises can only work so many times in a fight against someone more mobile, skilled & intelligent.
I will say that Yamcha runs a small risk of not going in full force out of his arrogance, & taking some hits for it, but I'd say his other advantages make up for that risk.
Yamcha has arguably better AP & durability, is much more skilled, is probably smarter, is able to fly, & has better range & means to counter most of Saitama's tricks.
Again, I'm pretty sure this match has been done before, but I feel you should understand that -as far as I know, anyway- this thread is quite redundant, & there's a number of reasons Saitama gets decimated.
Sorry for all the words.
Up until not long ago, Saitama's best feat was a cloud splitting feat that gave him, like, what, High 6-A? And his best scaling has been scaling to Boros, who was a Planet Buster. Saitama's best statement was his author claiming he could blow up/destroy Earth if Saitama wanted to.
Simply destroying Earth is baseline Planet Level, isn't it?
Now what about Yamcha? Well.... Piccolo has blown up the moon from Earth before the saiyans arrived.
Even then, he was Planet Level. There's a calc indicating the result you can find linked in Piccolo's Attack Potency, too, if you're curious.
Radditz was stronger than, or comparable to Piccolo & Goku when they fought, & mostly lost because of Special Beam Cannon drilling through him while he was held by Goku.
A Saibaman is as strong as Radditz.
Yamcha is stronger than a Saibaman; He died due to the Saibaman he thought was defeated using a suicide attack -with him in a grab hold- while his guard was down.
Even if we ignore SBA saying to use the strongest version -which is a Yamcha as strong as Goku during his Saiyan Saga fight against Vegeta- Yamcha is still a plenty good match for a baseline Planet Level if I understand his rating right.
After all, Yamcha is at least stronger than a Saibaman, which is equal to Radditz, who took on 2 roughly Planet Level characters at once.
But even without a statistical advantage, Saitama has shown himself to be oblivious, not remarkably intelligent (His poor grade in the hero exam, forgetting what day of the week it was, etc.), & isn't always focused.
Not only that, he's not actually a properly trained martial artists. And he sure can't fly or use ki.
Meanwhile, Yamcha IS a trained martial artist; He's fought in tourneys & made his own martial art style -Wolf Fang Fist- and can fly & use ki.
In a ranged fight, Saitama has almost no good options; He can make shockwaves, but again, those are like, Tier 6? A 5-B won't feel those. Speed Equalized makes pursuit more difficult. Enhanced Sight can only do so much.
At range, Saitama struggles to find any way to attack Yamcha, while Yamcha can attack with ki blasts & kamehamehas.
He could try maybe throwing rocks like he does with Serious Table Flip. But that might not be damaging enough, & for an opponent like Yamcha who can fly & doesn't mind the ground being disturbed as much.
As defense, STF doesn't help; Yamcha's spirit ball shows he can control the motion of his ki, & this is ignoring the option of just moving to or aiming where there are no rocks in the way. Or just penetrating the rocks with his ki.
And as cover, STF doesn't help much either, because Yamcha can probably use ki sense to detect Saitama, plus the rocks might not effectively block his field of view if he's flying.
Serious Consecutive Side Hops? It can create a shockwave... but AFAIK, it's close range. Even if it is planetary like his Serious Strike's shockwaves, Yamcha can match that range with Ki, & Afterimages aren't that new to him. In theory, spamming ki blasts against this, or just Yamcha swinging his spirit ball through the line could thwart this.
Consecutive Normal Punches?
Wolf Fang Fist: Yamcha's trademark attack. It is a very fast series of powerful punches, swipes, and kicks. Before the attack, a wolf's howl can be heard, along with an aura around Yamcha.
Yamcha LAUGHS at Consecutive Normal Punches & does it better; Again, he's a trained martial artist, & one with a flurry of fists -& more!- as his signature attack.
Serious Headbutt -& I suppose STF & SCSH- might catch him off-guard for being unconvential, but surprises can only work so many times in a fight against someone more mobile, skilled & intelligent.
I will say that Yamcha runs a small risk of not going in full force out of his arrogance, & taking some hits for it, but I'd say his other advantages make up for that risk.
Yamcha has arguably better AP & durability, is much more skilled, is probably smarter, is able to fly, & has better range & means to counter most of Saitama's tricks.
Again, I'm pretty sure this match has been done before, but I feel you should understand that -as far as I know, anyway- this thread is quite redundant, & there's a number of reasons Saitama gets decimated.
Sorry for all the words.
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Yamcha would die like he always does XD
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VenusManTrap said:
Since when has Yamcha had a deathstreak?
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Yamcha always dying? Hah!
Excluding Future Trunks's timeline where only he & Gohan survived because no one was strong enough or prepared for the Androids, Yamcha has only died TWO times.
Once in Saiyan Saga, and as mentioned, that was because he was showing off & caught off guard by an enemy he thought was dead that used a suicide attack while clinging to his body.
The 2nd time was from Buu turning him -& several others into chocolate- on Kami's Lookout.
Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo & Tien have a death count of 2 in the main DBZ timeline. Chiaotzu has 3 deaths & so does Krillin.
By comparison, Gohan, Trunks & Goten (Kid, teen or adult) only have 1 death. All this is only accounting for the main timeline in DBZ only.
Number of deaths is not a reliable gauge of power.
Excluding Future Trunks's timeline where only he & Gohan survived because no one was strong enough or prepared for the Androids, Yamcha has only died TWO times.
Once in Saiyan Saga, and as mentioned, that was because he was showing off & caught off guard by an enemy he thought was dead that used a suicide attack while clinging to his body.
The 2nd time was from Buu turning him -& several others into chocolate- on Kami's Lookout.
Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo & Tien have a death count of 2 in the main DBZ timeline. Chiaotzu has 3 deaths & so does Krillin.
By comparison, Gohan, Trunks & Goten (Kid, teen or adult) only have 1 death. All this is only accounting for the main timeline in DBZ only.
Number of deaths is not a reliable gauge of power.
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Quick question, what is Yamcha's most powerful ranged attack?
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Hasn't this been done before? Anyway, Yamcha stomps. Android saga Yamcha => Saiyan Saga Vegeta >>>>>>>> Nappa >>>>>>>> Raditz > Before 1 year training Goku and Piccolo >>> Before 1 year training Goku & Piccolo with weighted training gear > Boros. Saitama only has >>> Boros as his only power scaling back up. Yamcha also has better range and versatility here.
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I'm actually leaning towards Saitama for this one.
Because we're working under SBA, these two would start out at four kilometers apart. Being serious, Yamcha goes for a Kamehameha with Saitama charging at him. Yamcha abandons this almost immediately due to the short distance the two have between them, and tries to attack Saitama. Saitama, however, was already gearing up for a serious punch and throws it. Since the wiki states this attack is planet level, Yamcha survives. However, he's heavily stunned due to the force of the attack and this leaves him open to several more serious punches from Saitama with no time to act.
Saitama wins.
Because we're working under SBA, these two would start out at four kilometers apart. Being serious, Yamcha goes for a Kamehameha with Saitama charging at him. Yamcha abandons this almost immediately due to the short distance the two have between them, and tries to attack Saitama. Saitama, however, was already gearing up for a serious punch and throws it. Since the wiki states this attack is planet level, Yamcha survives. However, he's heavily stunned due to the force of the attack and this leaves him open to several more serious punches from Saitama with no time to act.
Saitama wins.
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Even with that said, I'm not taking into account the Raditz fight due to the fact Yamcha and Raditz are vastly different characters.
With what you said stated, I have no reason to believe that Yamcha could just tank a serious punch with no problem.
Even with that said, I'm not taking into account the Raditz fight due to the fact Yamcha and Raditz are vastly different characters.
With what you said stated, I have no reason to believe that Yamcha could just tank a serious punch with no problem.
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What makes you say this?Huesito88 said:
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I know, that's why Saitama charged at Yamcha. He would want t o get a clean hit in, so that his opponent is down for the count.Huesito88 said:
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But speed is equalized, which means Yamcha wouldn't have enough time to fully dodge the attack since both are traveling at the same speed. So Saitama get's in a glancing blow, this would still leave Yamcha stunned and allow for a follow up of attacks from Saitama with no resistance.Huesito88 said:
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Skill doesn't mean jack if you not fast enough to use it.Huesito88 said:
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He is fast enough to use it, especially in a speed equal match.
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Ok Glassman and Huesito, I'll concede on that point.
But one thing I don't believe is that Yamcha's physical strength is planet level. So these blows wouldn't phase Saitama.
But one thing I don't believe is that Yamcha's physical strength is planet level. So these blows wouldn't phase Saitama.
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