RWBY Volume 5 Discussion

[Jinx666]

It doesn't, I've never said it makes him stronger, but the only reason he kept up with Hazel was because of every other category, reactions, skill, intelligence,, the 7-B weapon, and Hazel isn't even done, Ozpin was forced back when Hazel started to get angry, not even looking damaged. Qrow had to cover for him. I mean, his aura got one shot by one of Leo's warning shots which aren't that strong, yet he can suddenly tank a Hazel punch. It all screams PIS, as Oscar was, and is still the underdog

 

[WeeklyBattles]

For the last time, Oscar's Aura wasnt taken down by Leo

 

[Jinx666]

Oscar's aura flashed green after being shot, in the same way Mercury, Qrow, Tyrian etc lost theirs, its the way the show tells you.

Even so, when the aura flashes at all, it means it's a heavy af punch that it barely took either way. So when it visibly struggled against the warning shot, I doubt it should be scaled

 

[The_Everlasting]

An aura depleting has a specific sound effect that was not used in this situation.

 

[Jinx666]

The sound was an explosion from the shot that fizzed it out. I just about managed to hear it.

EDIT: wait a minute, yes there was a sound, that's the same sound on that was with Qrow and Tyrian when they lost their aura. His aura has only just been unlocked, its not hard to believe it's been one shot

 

[TheRustyOne]

Jinx666
It doesn't matter if Oscar would lose to Hazel he still took a hit from him and you saying PIS isn't going to change anything.

Just because you can lose to someone doesn't make you not comparable to them. Ozpin would be downgraded to 7-B by your logic since Cinder killed him.

Also Oscar isn't as strong as Ozpin no one has said that.

Leo was also able to block a slash from Qrow so his Dura is City level. Oscar can clearly hurt Leo so that makes his AP City level.

Qrow also blocked Leo's projectiles which Oscar literally tanked. You have no proof that Oscar's aura was drain besides that it flashed which isn't actually proof.

Oscar<Orow Still doesn't mean he can't scale to Qrow.

I'm dropping this now since it's clear I can't convince you.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

The sound was an explosion from the shot that fizzed it out. I just about managed to hear it.

could you give a timer of swhen it goes out?

 

[Kaltias]

Most of the times someone's aura is overpowered they are severely weakened and need effort to get back up (Pyrrha, Nora, Ren for example). It definitely wasn't the case for Oscar.

Also he did damaged Hazel

 

[TheRustyOne]

Ozpin in Oscar's body did hurt and damaged Hazel.

He literally stuck him in the back and made him fall to his knees. Attacking from behind or attacking vital areas isn't Dura Negation especially with Aura.

Leo was able to block Qrow's attacks so that means his Dura is 7-B, Oscar can hurt Leo.

 

[Jinx666]

The sound is pretty obvious to hear, its when Lionheart shoots the blast. Aura depleting is like fizzing out rather than it breaking. Its the same sound as Qrow Vs Tyrian.

Hazel was only being jabbed and knocked over in fairly blind spots. He was getting finessed more than actually hurt, and that was done by Ozpins skill. Hazel still has to guard from 8-A attacks like Ren so it's not farfetched to think Oscar with enough small force in one area can't knock him over. Its like pressure points and stuff. The fight isn't even over yet, it's pretty early to suggest he's 7-B when we haven't seen the rest of the fight too, especially with how outlier-ish and stupid it is

 

[Kaltias]

He was attacking Hazel the same way he attacked Cinder at Beacon.

By your logic, Ozpin isn't 7-A either because he could have used pressure points (which i'm pretty sure was never stated). I'm also pretty sure that pressure points aren't durability negation anyway.

 

[Jinx666]

Jinx666

It doesn't matter if Oscar would lose to Hazel he still took a hit from him and you saying PIS isn't going to change anything.
Just because you can lose to someone doesn't make you not comparable to them. Ozpin would be downgraded to 7-B by your logic since Cinder killed him.

Also Oscar isn't as strong as Ozpin no one has said that.

Leo was also able to block a slash from Qrow so his Dura is City level. Oscar can clearly hurt Leo so that makes his AP City level.

Qrow also blocked Leo's projectiles which Oscar literally tanked. You have no proof that Oscar's aura was drain besides that it flashed which isn't actually proof.

Oscar<Orow Still doesn't mean he can't scale to Qrow.

I'm dropping this now since it's clear I can't convince you.

Lol, I know I'm not gonna change anything

I didn't say that either, but Oscar had to be forced out to survive. He was clearly gonna get stomped, even if he was on the same tier range

Leo was hilarious when he was trying to block Qrows blows, he was stuck on the defensive, barely blocking anything and had to use his little weapon shield to help him block. He honestly doesn't scale, base Oscar literally smacked him down the stairs. Lionheart sucks

Oscar didn't tank his warning shot. The full body flash and fizz is bloody proof his aura was gone, that's literally how you know their aura is gone, Mercury had 0 aura when his aura flashed in the similar way to Oscar's

Oscar = Hazel > Qrow, but yes it does, cause Qrow is a professional, Oscar has been training less than a month.

 

[Reppuzan]

Sound of Mercury's Aura being depleted is a high-pitched static.

Weiss' aura depleting is a high-pitched ringing and static, with the Aura visibly dispersing into the environment.

Oscar's Aura flickering is considerably lower-pitched.

Very noticeable differences.

Also, pressure points are useless unless you have sufficient strength to strike them hard enough to make them feel it. So that argument falls flat.

 

[Jinx666]

He was attacking Hazel the same way he attacked Cinder at Beacon.
By your logic, Ozpin isn't 7-A either because he could have used pressure points (which i'm pretty sure was never stated). I'm also pretty sure that pressure points aren't durability negation anyway.

Yeah, I knows but this was in his weakened Oscar state, which even he said was the case. Oscar can still be beat with his aura gone by Ruby. It was all Ozpins skill that legit made him keep up and cheap shot Hazel

Pressure points can be a form of Dura negation,not in this case, they're only like PP, I'm referring to blind spots. but Oscar caught the sluggish, angered Hazel off guard with most of his things. It's pretty obvious Oscar, whose still in pubic years and has only just learnt how to fight a little basic, would best a man like hazel in strength anyway

Ozpin is 7-A in his old body, but right now, when Oscar is still the underdog of the group, he shouldn't go from 8-A at most to suddenly surpassing Qrow, especially this early when the fight hasn't even finished

 

[Reppuzan]

Leo is powerful enough to make Qrow block and deflect his projectiles.

The sound effects are very different.

It was blatantly stated before that Oscar was going to progress at an exceedingly fast rate due to Ozpin's presence. It has an explanation as is therefore not PIS.

Just stop.

 

[Jinx666]

Sound of Mercury's Aura being depleted is a high-pitched static.
Weiss' aura depleting is a high-pitched ringing and static, with the Aura visibly dispersing into the environment.

Oscar's Aura flickering is considerably lower-pitched.

Very noticeable differences.

Also, pressure points are useless unless you have sufficient strength to strike them hard enough to make them feel it. So that argument falls flat.

I can barely hear Mercurys aura depletion through Yang's I Burn, but it honestly doesn't sound that different. Weiss's replying was the first time it's ever depleted like that, it's clearly for effect after what Cinder then did to her. Qrow, Tyrian, Ren and Nora all depleted in the same way as Oscar's though

and again, the aura only flickers from a powerful shot, if Oscar's almost (or did) depleted from that one single shot, then its clearly not 7-B material at all. Ruby's flashes several time form Tyrians higher AP punches, this is probably the same as Oscar.

Not talking about pressure points, talking about blind spots, noting a similarity. Blind spots and pressure points are easier to hurt an opponent through anyway.

 

[Jinx666]

Leo is powerful enough to make Qrow block and deflect his projectiles.
The sound effects are very different.

It was blatantly stated before that Oscar was going to progress at an exceedingly fast rate due to Ozpin's presence. It has an explanation as is therefore not PIS.

Just stop.

You don't have to carry on here yknow, wouldn't wanna waste more of your precious time, I'm talking to others

Ren and Nora is powerful enough to make Hazel block, can they be 7-B too? But of course Qrow isn't gonna stand there and let him take punches, and I said Leo's projectiles are 7-B, leo physically just isn't, like he said, he's gotten weaker.

Fast rate is way too vague. Less than a month, he's already surpassed professionals. That's what's PIS and is stupid, especially when Oscar had to be forced out so they didn't die.

 

[TheRustyOne]

Leo has 7-B dura for blocking a attack from Qrow, he literally blocks a slash from Qrow and dodges his kick.

Oscar can hurt Leo.

 

[Jinx666]

He blocks with his 7-B Weapon shield and a few feints. Other than that Qrow is literally overpowering the guy, and you can tell. Oscar was b smacking that guy down stairs, Leo is not physically 7-B, his clumsy way of fighting can show you that pretty well. His main specialty is range, so it makes sense.

And b4 someone actually makes a page about him

 

[Kaltias]

That's not even remotely what PIS is. PIS would be Jaune stomping Cinder via rage power up after she impaled Weiss even if she was beating him casually moments before. Oscar's situation is completely different.

Also, if the projectile is still 7-B, he needs to be 7-B himself in order to survive. Unless you want to tell me that Pyrrha survived her battle with Cinder (8-A vs 7-B) or Yang still has her arm (8-A vs 7-B)

 

[LordAizenSama]

Welp if it wasn't already suspected Raven was going to die she certainly will now. Huge deathflag for her.

F

 

[Jinx666]

That's not even remotely what PIS is. PIS would be Jaune stomping Cinder via rage power up after she impaled Weiss even if she was beating him casually moments before. Oscar's situation is completely different.
Also, if the projectile is still 7-B, he needs to be 7-B himself in order to survive. Unless you want to tell me that Pyrrha survived her battle with Cinder (8-A vs 7-B) or Yang still has her arm (8-A vs 7-B)

Plot induced stupidity, the weakest character right now suddenly has the power to hurt a high tier like Hazel (even though he was going to lose), sounds similar enough to me.

Fact is, he survived the shot but, his aura flickered, so if it depleted (or got heavy hit), then the aura clearly struggled to tank the shot. Should we give Ruby 7-B durability for tanking Tyrians punches, who made her aura visibly flicker and after a few broke her aura. And honestly, I'd say it's 7-B only because he has to have something strong about him, but the projectile has barely shown 7-B power either, more 8-A at least. I was giving him the benefit of the doubt, but the shot was into a warning one aswell, meaning it was fairly weak and he still got his aura broke/barely still standing. That's nothing to scale from if they only just tanked it.

 

[LordAizenSama]

Also @Kal can you close this thread and make another discussion thread? This is already too long