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RWBY: AP buffs
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RWBY: Oscar's Shield
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That’s not how that would work. You would have to use the explosion of the Long Memory itself, not a separate calc of Monstra’s KE. Otherwise it’s just calc stacking I believe. That’s like me using a calc for All Might’s durability to calculate someone else’s durability because they took a punch from him.
She didn’t physically tear through him, she just blasted through his body with magic. And the damage she did to him was absolutely minuscule given how large he is, so scaling her fully to Monstra based off that wouldn’t make any sense.
That hole is what, at most a 10 meter diameter? Monstra is a, as calculated, nearly 9 kilometers big whale. She is absolutely not fully scaling as if she could blast apart the entirety of Monstra in a single attack with her Base magical beams, or scaling physically to Monstra.
This is like having a parasite in your body burrow a hole through your intestines to your stomach in an instant. Obviously it will hurt, but the parasite is not as powerful as a human and would get squished. Small creatures inside a big creature don’t typically scale as if they’re the same power as the big creature just because they can hurt it from the inside.
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We're actually working through the math of Salem burrowing through Monstra right now on the discord I'm on. First result we got was around MCB. But that was assuming she just blew like one hole in the body. Turns out, on closer inspection, she burrowed through his flesh. So, now , we're trying to find the volume of the tunnel.
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Take it up with Rusty, im just copying his method and putting it into a blog
It is using the explosion of the Long Memory itself yes
Thats not how calc stacking works my guy. Calc stacking would be like finding one character's speed and then using that seed to calc the KE of a different character. This is all the same feat, its one explosion and the durability a character gets from taking said explosion
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I mean, I hope you’re not trying to use Monstra’s durability of 7-A at all in your calculations. Because that, again, would just be calc stacking.
Also getting Low 7-B/High 7-C results from that hole that would be consistent with where the other characters are scaling doesn’t seem likely. I’ll see what Rusty or other Calc members
No, Rusty’s method is using the explosion of the Long Memory to find the durability of Oscar’s shield, as it withstood the Long Memory. It’s all in the exact same instance, so it’s not calc stacking.
You’re taking the calculated durability of one character and scaling it to the Long Memory explosion, then using that durability to calculate Oscar’s shield. That is calc stacking.
If the Long Memory explosion was calculated at 7-A, and not only 7-A because it killed a character with a calculated durability, then that would be viable. You should instead be actually doing what Rusty did, and using the explosion of the Long Memory itself.
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RWBY: Oscar's Shield
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Just for you i did a version that uses the explosion's direct yield rather than the yield of it blowing up Monstra, it came out to Small City level
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RWBY: Oscar's Shield
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Just for you i did a version that uses the explosion's direct yield rather than the yield of it blowing up Monstra, it came out to Small City level
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Commentaries/Volume 7 Directors Commentary
Notes on Transcript The commentary is continuous, and is meant to be heard in the movie mode on the Blu-ray. Curly brackets {} are for things they said while someone else was talking (if heard clearly enough). Horizontal lines mark 1 minute intervals from the beginning of that episode. Sections...
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Scan through this for any mention of Salem making the whale
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Found itCommentaries/Volume 7 Directors Commentary
Notes on Transcript The commentary is continuous, and is meant to be heard in the movie mode on the Blu-ray. Curly brackets {} are for things they said while someone else was talking (if heard clearly enough). Horizontal lines mark 1 minute intervals from the beginning of that episode. Sections...
Scan through this for any mention of Salem making the whale
- Salem is no longer willing to confine herself to a room, and is going to start being more active by creating her army of minions
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"Miles: If you’ve read the After the Fall novel which I don’t know how many of you do, and Before the Dawn there’s a few Vacuo-specific Grimm that make appearances in those stories. Same with Atlas, we wanted to- you know, we’ve said in previous World of Remnant stuff that, you know, one of the reasons that Atlas did well is because not all the Grimm could survive the harsh climates without humans ability to make fire and warm themselves and stuff. But we also like the idea that Salem kinda gets wise to that and works on maybe making some specific Grimm that can handle it better, stuff like that. [Penny’s return] Aw, the most wholesomest of wholesome moments. "Commentaries/Volume 7 Directors Commentary
Notes on Transcript The commentary is continuous, and is meant to be heard in the movie mode on the Blu-ray. Curly brackets {} are for things they said while someone else was talking (if heard clearly enough). Horizontal lines mark 1 minute intervals from the beginning of that episode. Sections...
Scan through this for any mention of Salem making the whale
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Why for me? That’s how it should be done, the Long Memory is not a calculated 7-A explosion.RWBY: Oscar's Shield
Just for you i did a version that uses the explosion's direct yield rather than the yield of it blowing up Monstra, it came out to Small City level
And I would recommend waiting for actual calc group confirmation on that, cause I did this same calc using Rusty’s numbers from the first page of the thread and got only a bit over 1 megaton, so either your numbers or his are slightly off. Either way, this method is the correct one.
She’s already stronger than Monstra via Grimm manipulation, this doesn’t really add much to her.
And this still doesn’t give a timeframe for how long it took to create Monstra until it was ready to fly to Atlas.
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If you agree Salem is stronger then the whale then how do you think about this scale
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She is not physically stronger than Monstra. There is 0 reasoning for that to be true. Her Grimm magic that has a High 6-C feat just means that creating something like Monstra, who is 7-A, would be simple for her.
Physically or “base” magically she has no reason to scale.
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Ive already pinged Damage and a few other calc members to take a look at it
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The blast was nearly instantaneous, I doubt Monstra’s insides slowed it down much when it seemed to decimate the whale like it was nothing.
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Bump? Someone wanna grab Dale, Rusty, or Damage?
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Scaling is still the same right? Or has it changed?
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If the calc i did gets okayed then the scaling stays the same ye, 6-C ozma and salem, 7-A long memory, low 7-B everyone else to their agreed degrees of scaling
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Still no response on that calc
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You need their input on the calc below right or a different one? I can @ them for you to help move this thread along.
RWBY: Oscar's Shield
Just for you i did a version that uses the explosion's direct yield rather than the yield of it blowing up Monstra, it came out to Small City level
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That one ye, and that would be much appreciated
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I've evaluated it.
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@Dalesean027 @TheRustyOneRWBY: Oscar's Shield
Whenever your able, could you evaluate this calc to help move this thread along.
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Awesome calc is a go, are there any objections to the updated revisions or are we good to put this in grace?
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I thought Rusty and Dale had to look at it? Or did they do it already in the comments of the post?
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Dale and Damage okayed it
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I think revisions are good to go yes thank you guys for your h elp.
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Okay. So, I missed a lot of the discussion due to personal stuff. Can you please summarize what has happened and why Oscar’s Shield is okay now?
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Ozma and Salem are agreed to be 6-C
Maidens are no longer 1/5th of Ozma and Salem as Ozma gets weaker with each reincarnation and had already reincarnated dozens to possibly hundreds of times by the time he split his power to make the maidens
Oscar's shield was caled to have low 7-B durability from the inverse square of tanking the 7-B+ calced blast of Long Memory at the distance it did, and its agreed that cinder broke through Ozpin's shield and that his shield is the same one that withstood the low 7-B energy
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So basically this thread went from 'Everyone is now 6-C' to 'The only thing changing is the justifications, everything else stays the same'
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Ah okay. I also have an upcoming calcs for Salem burrowing through Monstra. Since, again, she just tunnels through him.
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If I recall, we’re also still upgrading Post Haven RWBY to 7-C from the Centinels.
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ye that too
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Would this also make Adam 7-C? Cause they fought him in their post Haven key, but didn’t kill the Centinels till later.
