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[Rayfire]

Leo's Ultimate FC/OC Multi-Tier Duos Tourney [Completed]

Making another meme at night cause i’m bored

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This guy is kinda just consistently being a jerk and has been openly antagonizing people participating in the tourney for a bit now. I think this is against the site rules.

I think i should add this has also been occuring in the final round of this tourney, and SSB has still been slandering nearly everyone despite me recommending him to just take a break from the forum to cool off. I won't explain exactly what's going on since that'd take a while, but i hope this can be resolved

 

[Antvasima]

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Just a regular reminder for this thread, since deleted posts seem to stop the automatic notifications due to a bug in XenForo or a XenForo plugin.

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Reporting @Tdjwo for commenting in a Staff thread without admin permission... It becomes so much worse since the comment included, trying to manipulate people into reporting @Wankbreaker ... It is clear as day He is still going after Wankbreaker, even after what happened, in the last report. And to make things even better, he is still doing the thing he complained about...

Bump...

 

[Catzlaflame]

Leo's Ultimate FC/OC Multi-Tier Duos Tourney [Completed]

Making another meme at night cause i’m bored

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This guy is kinda just consistently being a jerk and has been openly antagonizing people participating in the tourney for a bit now. I think this is against the site rules.

I left a comment here, if it persists feel free to mention it.

Reporting @Tdjwo for commenting in a Staff thread without admin permission... It becomes so much worse since the comment included, trying to manipulate people into reporting @Wankbreaker ... It is clear as day He is still going after Wankbreaker, even after what happened, in the last report. And to make things even better, he is still doing the thing he complained about...

If a discussion rule is being broken, then it should be mentioned — that being said, I don't know anything about Nasu, so I can’t say if there actually was a discussion rule being broken, but believing that there may have been one and vocalizing it isn’t report-worthy in of itself. Now the manner in which they did so (blurting it out in a staff thread published by a user that they have history with, as opposed to mentioning it to a staff member on their wall) is obviously not acceptable, and they seem to acknowledge that.

Regarding the guy’s history with wankbreaker. Could it be that they are targeting them once more? Potentially — there is a genuine possibility that they are trying to undermine them and mask it as believing that a discussion rule being broken, however, I, personally, can’t conclusively say that and for that reason I don’t support any punishment.

 

[Tdjwo]

I left a comment here, if it persists feel free to mention it.

If a discussion rule is being broken, then it should be mentioned — that being said, I don't know anything about Nasu, so I can’t say if there actually was a discussion rule being broken, but believing that there may have been one and vocalizing it isn’t report-worthy in of itself. Now the manner in which they did so (blurting it out in a staff thread published by a user that they have history with, as opposed to mentioning it to a staff member on their wall) is obviously not acceptable, and they seem to acknowledge that.

Regarding the guy’s history with wankbreaker. Could it be that they are targeting them once more? Potentially — there is a genuine possibility that they are trying to undermine them and mask it as believing that a discussion rule being broken, however, I, personally, can’t conclusively say that and for that reason I don’t support any punishment.

I already made my points here

I didn't know it was a staff thread tbh as there were other non staff comments there but ofc @Dark_Soul20189 weirdly loves me so much he stalks my entire activity to only point me out once again.

And I don't understand where you got "manipulation" from considering all I said was that the thread he made was already a rule violation since there's already a discussion ban about it (a fact pretty much everyone seems to agree with in the thread).

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

If a discussion rule is being broken, then it should be mentioned — that being said, I don't know anything about Nasu, so I can’t say if there actually was a discussion rule being broken, but believing that there may have been one and vocalizing it isn’t report-worthy in of itself. Now the manner in which they did so (blurting it out in a staff thread published by a user that they have history with, as opposed to mentioning it to a staff member on their wall) is obviously not acceptable, and they seem to acknowledge that.

Regarding the guy’s history with wankbreaker. Could it be that they are targeting them once more? Potentially — there is a genuine possibility that they are trying to undermine them and mask it as believing that a discussion rule being broken, however, I, personally, can’t conclusively say that and for that reason I don’t support any punishment.

Pretty much the reason why I thought it was necessary to report since There is a history between the users and the attitude, that is repeatedly shown.
By the way, I forgot to link a comment regarding the report here.

This should be noted because it is the same problem that caused his last report here, here, and here (Couldn't find the report where he was reported for calling out Wank Breaker as a "biased translation"). Or is at least very much connected to it.

To make things worse, just some of the comments he has made, that is related to @Wankbreaker include. 1, 2 and 3. While they are nothing report worthy by themself, they speak volumes about the situation... Just read from here again, and see his arguments and mentality haven't changed.

It is clear at least some actions need to be taken.

 

[Tdjwo]

Pretty much the reason why I thought it was necessary to report since There is a history between the users and the attitude, that is repeatedly shown.
By the way, I forgot to link a comment regarding the report here.

What's the point in linking a comment that catz most likely saw already? And Propelius didn't even address anything. Just jumped into conclusion without seeing any explanation. Why didn't you also post one of the possible reason I could have commented on the thread huh?

This should be noted because it is the same problem that caused his last report here,

Fun fact, in case you can't read or understand, I wasn't in the wrong at all for this report. Wanker did indeed break the rule by not asking for perms which I pointed out. But the only reason I was at fault was because I didn't report it in the RvR which honestly shouldn't have been a big deal considering I tagged a staff member to stop Wanker from what he was doing. But that's besides the point.

here, and here (Couldn't find the report where he was reported for calling out Wank Breaker as a "biased translation"). Or is at least very much connected to it.

Once again, Wanker did indeed use wrong translations with biased intentions since he's a translator but somehow can't make correct translations when it comes to Nasuverse. And just like before, I only didn't report in the RvR which is why I was blamed instead.

To make things worse, just some of the comments he has made, that is related to @Wankbreaker include. 1, 2 and 3. While they are nothing report worthy by themself, they speak volumes about the situation... Just read from here again, and see his arguments and mentality haven't changed.

It is clear at least some actions need to be taken.

For someone who isn't a staff member yet obsessed with me, lurking through every comment I make, maybe if you actually tried judging with an open mind and open eyes, then you'll see that all the reports made against me never put me in the wrong because I maliciously attacked Wanker. Rather, I was indeed right with my accusations (biased translation, clogging up thread without perms, etc). The only reason I still was kept at fault was because I didn't report to RvR first.

Also, you gotta stop stalking my activity. I know Wanker is your friend on discord or whatever but literally following all my comments/posts when you're not even a staff is just mad weird. Hope you have better things to do with your time. It didn't even take you more than 15 mins to reply to Catz which is just funny considering the time it should take you searching up all our possible quarrels and linking them lol

 

[Catzlaflame]

No back and forth in the RVR. We are in the evaluation phase — let interested staff comment.

Could you please clarify your stance @LephyrTheRevanchist

To make things worse, just some of the comments he has made, that is related to @Wankbreaker include. 1, 2 and 3. While they are nothing report worthy by themself, they speak volumes about the situation... Just read from here again, and see his arguments and mentality haven't changed.

Yes, I am aware of this. Their behavior was unacceptable, and because of that, this user was rightfully banned. I 100% support the ban they were given.

After said ban was finished, they are now saying the thread shouldn’t continue because, according to them, Wankbreaker is breaking a discussion rule. Again, I don’t know if there actually is a discussion rule being broken or not, but believing someone has, is something they are allowed to do — it isn’t fundamentally ill-intentioned in my view.

Honestly this latest comment they’ve made seems more concerning than the discussion rule comment if I’m being honest — but I’ll wait to hear from other staff.

 

[KingNanaya]

Again, I don’t know if there actually is a discussion rule being broken or not

It was mentioned several times in the thread itself.

Once by @Maverick_Zero_X
Once by myself (with staff permission)
Once by @CloverDragon03 (I think)
And once by @Tdjwo

No one else has reviewed the thread or given their opinion on whether or not it conflicts with the discussion rule.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

No back and forth in the RVR. We are in the evaluation phase — let interested staff comment.

Could you please clarify your stance @LephyrTheRevanchist

Exactly the same as yours here

Regarding the guy’s history with wankbreaker. Could it be that they are targeting them once more? Potentially — there is a genuine possibility that they are trying to undermine them and mask it as believing that a discussion rule being broken, however, I, personally, can’t conclusively say that and for that reason I don’t support any punishment.

 

[Berga14]

Idk if this is enought for a report but anyway, @Dog3352 keeps arguing out of ignorance in this thread (not only him but he is the most active). Anyway his comments will just clog the thread, i don't want something like this to happen (edit: here and here most of the messages are out of ignorance). Also, based on what he sayd we can easly deduce that he didn't even try to understand how things work in verse.

 

[Catzlaflame]

Anyway his comments will just clog the thread

He made at most 4-5 comments, 1 of which was a refutation to the OP and then subsequent replies to people who responded to him - that isn't really clogging the thread, its just discussion. If they were completely pointless comments (i.e., just commenting "lol" / "lmfao", then that'd be fair, but his comments seem to be on-topic and relevant. If you can prove that his comments are out of ignorance and not out of disagreeing with the OP then that's another matter entirely, but otherwise, this doesn't break any rules in my view.

 

[Berga14]

If you can prove that his comments are out of ignorance

I can, the things he is saying are WRONG plot wise, he doesn't know what a soul or a core is, he doesn't know how skills work, he doesn't know anything verse wise. Still he keeps yapping. Just watch his last comment, complete nosense.
Edit: i can even explain why those things are nosense but idk if i can start yapping here

 

[Catzlaflame]

I can, the things he is saying are WRONG plot wise, he doesn't know what a soul or a core is, he doesn't know how skills work, he doesn't know anything verse wise. Still he keeps yapping. Just watch his last comment, complete nosense.
Edit: i can even explain why those things are nosense but idk if i can start yapping here

I should have worded that better; I am asking you to show that he is acting intentionally ignorant -- This is what would be report-worthy. Someone not knowing a series, and commenting on a thread about it is not a rule violation. Assuming what you're saying is true, and he is actually completely wrong (idk because Idk the verse), if he does genuinely believe in the things he is saying, then he has the right to express that. It becomes a problem if he doesn't actually believe the things he is saying, but is pretending to do so to disagree with the thread.

 

[Berga14]

if he does genuinely believe in the things he is saying, then he has the right to express that. It becomes a problem if he doesn't actually believe the things he is saying, but is pretending to do so to disagree with the thread.

Well both Code CCL and Astral sayd to him to at least learn what a soul is in Tensura, which is a thing that he can learn in 2 minutes from researching on this wiki or from the external fandom wiki and he know about that wiki as he used scan from it. So he at least isn't even trying.

 

[GarrixianXD]

Simply because someone doesn't know about a concept from a specific verse isn't even remotely considered irrational bias. The issue would rather lie on you, because you didn't explain that particular in-verse thing.

 

[Planck69]

Him having a specific understanding of a verse concept that doesn't mesh with the OP (or not having the full picture) isn't argument from ignorance, and certainly not a rule violation.

 

[Berga14]

The issue would rather lie on you, because you didn't explain that particular in-verse thing.

Dude, if you go to a crt of a verse you don't know you don't start yapping random things.
Also he is using scans from the LN and wiki of that verse. BUT apparently he doesn't know and doesn't try to know the most essential things to even try to understand the OP even thought they were explained and even thought he knew where to find those information. So he knows about the LN, he knows about the wiki BUT he ignores the explanation in the crt and doesn't search the answer for himself.
In the second link i sent there are like 4 pages of him yapping WRONG things even thought he kept getting answered and explanations.

 

[Berga14]

Him having a specific understanding of a verse concept that doesn't mesh with the OP

He doesn't understand how the most basic thing discussed in the OP works, so his comments are quite useless by defoult.

or not having the full picture)

He got answers. He used LN and WIKi scans, so he perfectly knows where to find those information or maybe he already knows those info and he is just ignoring them.
He also got explanations in the answers in the crt.
Funny how this isn't the first time that this happens and funny how he was one of the dudes that were routing for High Godly downgrade...

 

[Planck69]

He doesn't understand how the most basic thing discussed in the OP works, so his comments are quite useless by defoult.

He got answers. He used LN and WIKi scans, so he perfectly knows where to find those information or maybe he already knows those info and he is just ignoring them.
He also got explanations in the answers in the crt.
Funny how this isn't the first time that this happens and funny how he was one of the dudes that were routing for High Godly downgrade...

OK but none of these are rule breaking. He's even apparently using scans and verse information to argue his points. Can it be frustrating? Yes. Is it reportable? At least so far, no.

 

[Berga14]

He's even apparently using scans and verse information to argue his points.

That isn't a point in his favour when he leaves out the most essential things to even start debating in that kind of thread. He used the wiki, so he knows how to type "astral body" in it and still he decided to take the most useless scans, change the context and comment. If only he spent 5 minutes of his life to do researches then all that useless debete wouldn't have happened. But i guess that for you is okay to debat about what a soul can do without knowing what a soul is.

Can it be frustrating? Yes. Is it reportable? At least so far, no.

But i didnn't report him thought?
"Idk if this is enought for a report but anyway"
I just wanted to point out that that guy way of debating will lead (or his aimed) to clog the thread.
If people can write here about 1 message with the words "i disagree" then i can do the same with this metter.

Edit: also his comments aren't questions but claims.

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

I am asking you to show that he is acting intentionally ignorant

Could the following be enough for that?

1. He's sticking to the manga even though the LN takes priority over the manga due to Manga having clear visual limitations as well as less details compared to the LN, which I have pointed out earlier but he refuses to accept that.
2. He refuses to read the physiology pages, which are made for others to understand how the verse works, and instead goes on to make his own baseless assumptions off a few words, which he doesn't even know the meaning of how those words work or how special they are in-verse.
3. Argument from ignorance, I broke the conclusions down into steps and he still refuses to believe them [still claiming "it is less lethal"] when I clearly gave the scans that the power's lethality is not reduced earlier.
4. He's basing his arguments on "probably" assumptions and refuses to believe otherwise even tho I have made it clear, multiple times.

 

[Dog3352]

He's sticking to the manga even though the LN takes priority over the manga due to Manga having clear visual limitations as well as less details compared to the LN, which I have pointed out earlier but he refuses to accept that.

These are not visual limitations, it just doesn't have all the details that it has in the LN (monologue for example), I'm using the manga just for mere image illustration, to visually show how it happened, since there is no contradiction between the manga and the LN (at least not in this part).

He refuses to read the physiology pages, which are made for others to understand how the verse works, and instead goes on to make his own baseless assumptions off a few words, which he doesn't even know the meaning of how those words work or how special they are in-verse.

I never refused to read the page, I literally read it 3 times, and even said "even if you are right that "heart" refers to the core" in your response to that comment, I admitted that you are right.

Argument from ignorance, I broke the conclusions down into steps and he still refuses to believe them [still claiming "it is less lethal"] when I clearly gave the scans that the power's lethality is not reduced earlier.

It wasn't even at that point that I argued against your aegument, and I never claimed that the blow would be less lethal because it was weaker, but less fatal because Hinata would even try to leave parts of Rimuru's body "alive" to make sure he would not die, and because Hinata makes it clear several times that even though she used that move, she was trying hard not to kill Rimuru with it (not making him weaker, but preventing him from completely destroying Rimuru), so I'm not denying what you said.

He's basing his arguments on "probably" assumptions and refuses to believe otherwise even tho I have made it clear, multiple times.

A portion of their rebuttals also have no supporting evidence, particularly talking about the "sacrifice" thing.

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

These are not visual limitations, it just doesn't have all the details that it has in the LN (monologue for example), I'm using the manga as supporting evidence, since the manga's images don't contradict the LN at any point.

I didn't say Manga contradicts the LN, I said you using manga as the base of your argument instead of the LN is the problem.

I never refused to read the page, I literally read it 3 times, and even said "even if you are right that "heart" refers to the core" in your response to that comment, I admitted that you are right.

At the end, that is, prior to that point and throughout our conversation of around 10+ posts, that argument has repeated multiple times.

It wasn't even at that point that I argued against your aegument, and I never claimed that the blow would be less lethal because it was weaker,

Neither did I

but less fatal because Hinata would even try to leave parts of Rimuru's body "alive" to make sure he would not die, and because Hinata makes it clear several times that even though

Which, as I said multiple times, would not reduce the lethality just because "she tried to".

she used that move, she was trying hard not to kill Rimuru with it (not making him weaker, but preventing him from completely destroying Rimuru), so I'm not denying what you said.

Rimuru's "Probably" assumption that Hinata wanted that.

A portion of their rebuttals also have no supporting evidence, particularly talking about the "sacrifice" thing.

Except, not really, the term "sacrifice" is self-explanatory, and your whole misunderstanding of "it must be present in his arm, not just his heart core" has no proof other then a single visual panel when the entire novel's narrative suggests otherwise, and so does the skills and magic page.

In any case, I'll be leaving this for staff to judge and won't be replying further unless its a staff asking me something.

 

[Dog3352]

I didn't say Manga contradicts the LN, I said you using manga as the base of your argument instead of the LN is the problem.

I'm just using it for visual illustration, the manga isn't my main argument, and if it doesn't contradict itself or anything like that, I don't see the problem with that.

At the end, that is, prior to that point and throughout our conversation of around 10+ posts, that argument has repeated multiple times.

Definitely not, I just talked about the argument from the heart 2 times, and stopped right after your second answer.

Neither did I

Which, as I said multiple times, would not reduce the lethality just because "she tried to".

How does not completely destroying Rimuru no reduce the lethality of the cut?

Rimuru's "Probably" assumption that Hinata wanted that.

I mean, the assumption fits with the fact that Hinata declared several times that she would try not to kill Rimuru with that attack, and I don't see any other reason for her to specifically aim lower on the body.

Except, not really, the term "sacrifice" is self-explanatory, and your whole misunderstanding of "it must be present in his arm, not just his heart core" has no proof other then a single visual panel when the entire novel's narrative suggests otherwise, and so does the skills and magic page.

Rimuru literally sacrificing his skill at that moment completely contradicts the skill itself still remaining only in the core, the sacrifice itself wouldn't exist and wouldn't make any sense if that were the case, and I'm not even using the manga panel as the main argument, but what the LN demonstrates to mean by this "sacrifice".

 

[Antvasima]

What do other staff members here think?

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I have my hands full, thus haven't got feedback on Dog3352's report, but there has been a recent report that @Shiedaisthepeak has posted nonsense/gibberish on someone else's wall. And there's apparently harassment on tiktok or so, but haven't seen evidence of that.

 

[Shiedaisthepeak]

I have my hands full, thus haven't got feedback on Dog3352's report, but there has been a recent report that @Shiedaisthepeak has posted nonsense/gibberish on someone else's wall. And there's apparently harassment on tiktok or so.

I don't mean to be misunderstood, but calling this 'nonsense' feels like an insult to my language. Additionally, if you translate what I’ve said, you’ll see it’s actually a line from a TV series (Akasya Durağı). Wishing you good work!

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

I was considering giving 'em a warning in the thread, but after checking the warning tracker, considered a formal report might be better.

Reporting user @Tempestdragon6 for this comment

They had been warned very recently for disruptive behavior, also on a TenSura thread, which resulted in a week-long ban.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I don't mean to be misunderstood, but calling this 'nonsense' feels like an insult to my language. Additionally, if you translate what I’ve said, you’ll see it’s actually a line from a TV series (Akasya Durağı). Wishing you good work!

My apologies, it seems Google Translate just wasn't working for me. Perhaps some words were misspelled was why it couldn't detect, though parts of it started to work when I double checked and tried again.

I was considering giving 'em a warning in the thread, but after checking the warning tracker, considered a formal report might be better.

Reporting user @Tempestdragon6 for this comment

They had been warned very recently for disruptive behavior, also on a TenSura thread, which resulted in a week-long ban.

Yeah, this is bad. I suggest a ban for another month or two if he is still misbehaving after a week long ban.

 

[Shiedaisthepeak]

My apologies, it seems Google Translate just wasn't working for me. Perhaps some words were misspelled was why it couldn't detect, though parts of it started to work when I double checked and tried again.

No problem! If you'd like to take a closer look at the quote, here you go.

And I have a request for you. Could you take a look at the CRT I sent you?

 

[Antvasima]

Yeah, this is bad. I suggest a ban for another month or two if he is still misbehaving after a week long ban.

I think that a warning should be sufficient. Speaking as an autistic person, I do not think that the comment was intended in a hateful and ableist manner, just in a "that's gay"-style language habit.

 

[Meli_Tempest]

Worthless is continuously antagonistic in posts regarding things he disagrees with, similar to Tjdwo, but worse. I support either a strict final warning, or a straight up ban, this dude shows no signs of changing, he's been like this since I could first remember encountering him on the site.

What happened to this?

I believe the report of Worthless' behavior never came to anything.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

huh ok lang

While I appreciate you not wanting to escalate things, I will still note this response as inappropriate.

Overall, I do agree with Ant that a warning suffices. Still, wanted to bring it to attention.

 

[Catzlaflame]

My apologies, it seems Google Translate just wasn't working for me. Perhaps some words were misspelled was why it couldn't detect, though parts of it started to work when I double checked and tried again.

I put the first sentence into google translate.

kız floxia amını yiyim mi

And the result was:

Girl Floxia, should I eat your pus*y?

Since electronic translations can be weird, there is a quora post inquiring about the meaning of the notable word above — Actual Turkish people also corroborate the translation from google, describing the word as extremely profane:

https://www.quora.com/What-does-the-Turkish-word-am%C4%B1n%C4%B1-mean

Even if that’s is from a show, that’s still an extremely weird thing to say. Not to mention that when the user said, “Foxia” in that message:

Girl Floxia, should I eat your pus*y?

That isn’t a foreign word…. it’s the vs battles name of the other user… so that part is clearly not from a tv show.

Do explain yourself @Shiedaisthepeak

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

OK but none of these are rule breaking. He's even apparently using scans and verse information to argue his points. Can it be frustrating? Yes. Is it reportable? At least so far, no.

Regarding the @Dog3352 report, I agree with these sentiments.

 

[CodeCCLL]

Additionally, if you translate what I’ve said, you’ll see it’s actually a line from a TV series (Akasya Durağı).

For the record, this is a lie. There is no such line in the TV series in question.

I put the first sentence into google translate.

And the result was:


Since electronic translations can be weird, there is a quora post inquiring about the meaning of the notable word above — Actual Turkish people also corroborate the translation from google, describing the word as extremely profane:

https://www.quora.com/What-does-the-Turkish-word-am%C4%B1n%C4%B1-mean

Even if that’s is from a show, that’s still an extremely weird thing to say. Not to mention that when the user said, “Foxia” in that message:


That isn’t a foreign word…. it’s the vs battles name of the other user… so that part is clearly not from a tv show.

Do explain yourself @Shiedaisthepeak

Yes, your translation is completely correct. This is a disturbing comment.

 

[Antvasima]

So for how long should we ban Shiedaisthepeak? For a year, or longer or briefer?

 

[Shiedaisthepeak]

So for how long should we ban Shiedaisthepeak? For a year, or longer or briefer?

Just let me explain myself Please, there is an important cosmology revision, and I will explain it.

 

[GarrixianXD]

Just let me explain myself Please, there is an important cosmology revision, and I will explain it.

You're given a chance to explain yourself. Don't waste it.