Rule Violation Reports (New forum)

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

So for how long should we ban Shiedaisthepeak? For a year, or longer or briefer?

For comparison sake:
Twisted_Little_Raven received a ban of two weeks for an inappropriate conversation with a meme of an innuendo (the image has since expired)

While it should also be noted Raven had prior warnings about inappropriate comments, the comment made by @Shiedaisthepeak is frankly worse than what she got banned for, specially since they tried hiding behind another language; the fact they also wrote it apparently unsolicited; and tried to explain it away with a lie (though I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt there by simple courtesy). So 1 month (as originally proposed for Raven in her report) would be the minimum for me as things stand.

I will nevertheless wait for @Shiedaisthepeak explanation before giving my final thoughts.

 

[Shiedaisthepeak]

That isn’t a foreign word…. it’s the vs battles name of the other user… so that part is clearly not from a tv show.

I have come to fully explain something you misunderstood and harshly judged me for.

FIRST JUDGMENT: 'This is not from a series.'

It’s natural for you to make this comment without reviewing the link I provided, but please allow me to explain. If you search for this quote online along with the series I mentioned, you will find the connection I referred to. Additionally, if you look at both of our profiles, you’ll realize this is meant as a 'joke.' Please also review my CRTs and profiles — you won’t find even the slightest insult or disrespect. This is an inside joke between friends. (The situation I need to add is that the person referred to as Floxia currently hates me, and I can provide evidence of the insults they've said behind my back. I want to clarify that this person is neither a witness nor a friend of mine in any way. This is an issue from the past.)

Since electronic translations can be weird, there is a quora post inquiring about the meaning of the notable word above — Actual Turkish people also corroborate the translation from google, describing the word as extremely profane:

Of course, I don’t deny this judgment, but I will keep the explanation brief. What I did was a reference to the character the person is a fan of, which is part of a local humor style. You can see this in the 'TikTok link' I shared, and you can also find it if you search for it in Turkish.

CONCLUSION:

This is merely a joke made with 'one' person. Otherwise, you can understand this from the comment by Floxia on my profile saying, 'I’m waiting for you on Discord.' Here, I list all my CRTs and request that my actions be reviewed. I find it absurd and illogical for my account to be removed over just a joke. Thank you in advance for reading.

CRT 1

CRT 2

CRT 3

CRT 4

I will call upon @Mr. Bambu , who has consistently commented on my CRTs (thank you for his comments so far), as a witness of course, only if he agrees. I want to clarify that I am not taking him as an assistant, as I don’t want to be misunderstood; he is someone I deeply respect. I believe he is familiar with my communication with him as well as my attitude toward people and in CRTs. Therefore, I specifically request his opinion.

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While it should also be noted Raven had prior warnings about inappropriate comments, the comment made by @Shiedaisthepeak is frankly worse than what she got banned for, specially since they tried hiding behind another language; the fact they also wrote it apparently unsolicited; and tried to explain it away with a lie (though I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt there by simple courtesy). So 1 month (as originally proposed for Raven in her report) would be the minimum for me as things stand.

I would like to state that I am not hiding behind any language. After you listen to my (its just a simple meme) explanation, I will ask for your comment. Therefore, I thank you in advance.

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For the record, this is a lie. There is no such line in the TV series in question.

I would like to correct myself this is a joke taken from an old television show. It’s personally disappointing that you would place me so easily in the “liar” category without even searching the TikTok link I shared or looking it up online. However, I don’t view you negatively, as misunderstandings or situations may have been overlooked

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AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD:

The individual named Floxia explicitly threatened to have me banned. Despite my stating that the matter was resolved and the joke had ended, they used a phrase like, "Let me tell Antvasima to get you banned." It is clear that this was a joke, yet I am now facing a situation where the other party has approached me with hostility and bullied me on TikTok after commenting on my profile.

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[LephyrTheRevanchist]

It’s natural for you to make this comment without reviewing the link I provided, but please allow me to explain. If you search for this quote online along with the series I mentioned, you will find the connection I referred to. Additionally, if you look at both of our profiles, you’ll realize this is meant as a 'joke.' Please also review my CRTs and profiles — you won’t find even the slightest insult or disrespect.

Being sexually flirtatious will not be tolerated. Playing mature games, flirting, or using sexual connotations is discouraged, and in extreme cases, will result in a severe penalty.

From our site rules. It being a joke could lessen the severity here, but as noted, we have indeed banned others for comparatively tamer "humor".

This is an inside joke between friends. (The situation I need to add is that the person referred to as Floxia currently hates me, and I can provide evidence of the insults they've said behind my back. I want to clarify that this person is neither a witness nor a friend of mine in any way. This is an issue from the past.)

I ask for a bit of clarification here: Are you friends or "enemies"? You seem to imply you two have/had beef, but are also acting quite casually with them (enough to make an "inside joke")

Of course, I don’t deny this judgment, but I will keep the explanation brief. What I did was a reference to the character the person is a fan of, which is part of a local humor style. You can see this in the 'TikTok link' I shared, and you can also find it if you search for it in Turkish.

I can see it as being an actual joke. The problem overall is that it goes quite overboard for our rules.

That being said, the added context does sway me a little that you were simply clueless about the severity of how the site takes that type of joke and could support a stern warning and leave it at that. I will wait for further staff comments.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD:

The individual named Floxia explicitly threatened to have me banned. Despite my stating that the matter was resolved and the joke had ended, they used a phrase like, "Let me tell Antvasima to get you banned." It is clear that this was a joke, yet I am now facing a situation where the other party has approached me with hostility and bullied me on TikTok after commenting on my profile.

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here

In the future: do not joke with someone who you don't have a good relationship with.

 

[Shiedaisthepeak]

That being said, the added context does sway me a little that you were simply clueless about the severity of how the site takes that type of joke and could support a stern warning and leave it at that. I will wait for further staff comments.

I did my best to explain the situation and supported it with my explanations. I don’t want it to appear like drama, and yes, I wasn’t aware of these rules, at least not for a joke. Once again, I apologize what I did was a serious mistake. Thank you for your understanding.

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In the future: do not joke with someone who you don't have a good relationship with.

Yes, the results are not very "encouraging."

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I ask for a bit of clarification here: Are you friends or "enemies"? You seem to imply you two have/had beef, but are also acting quite casually with them (enough to make an "inside joke")

We used to be friends, but in the current situation, if you look at the Imgur links I’ve shared, you’ll see that they are now threatening to have me banned.

 

[Antvasima]

@Mr. Bambu

It seems like your help has been requested here.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

I did my best to explain the situation and supported it with my explanations. I don’t want it to appear like drama, and yes, I wasn’t aware of these rules, at least not for a joke. Once again, I apologize what I did was a serious mistake. Thank you for your understanding.

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Yes, the results are not very "encouraging."

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We used to be friends, but in the current situation, if you look at the Imgur links I’ve shared, you’ll see that they are now threatening to have me banned.

Try not to multipost. If you have more to add, edit your last comment.

 

[Shiedaisthepeak]

Try not to multipost. If you have more to add, edit your last comment.

Sorry my bad

 

[Gorkyss]

We used to be friends, but in the current situation, if you look at the Imgur links I’ve shared, you’ll see that they are now threatening to have me banned.

So yes, im friend with Shieda (not close), they used to be friends but after time Floxia threaten him.

 

[CodeCCLL]

I would like to correct myself this is a joke taken from an old television show. It’s personally disappointing that you would place me so easily in the “liar” category without even searching the TikTok link I shared or looking it up online. However, I don’t view you negatively, as misunderstandings or situations may have been overlooked

No problem! If you'd like to take a closer look at the quote, here you go.

Aren't you aware that the link you gave goes to a random video that has nothing to do with the TV series you mentioned?

Also, all the episodes of the series you mentioned have already been to YouTube, so you can give us a video and timestamp of where exactly the "joke" you mentioned was said. There are many people in this forum who can translate from turkish to english, it is quite easy to determine whether you is telling the truth or not.

 

[Shiedaisthepeak]

Aren't you aware that the link you gave goes to a random video that has nothing to do with the TV series you mentioned?

I think this might come across as evasive, but it's a joke from a show, as I would say for the series. I’ve clarified this again in the TikTok link I shared I was simply repeating the joke.

No problem! If you'd like to take a closer look at the quote, here you go.

Here is what I’m sharing. If you're going to approach me with accusations of lying, feel free, but this will be implied as defamation. What you're implying is that “he’s lying to cover up his actions.” If that’s what you intend, then go ahead,Still, I want to emphasize that this doesn’t mean I look down on you, nor could it ever mean that. I don’t harbor any hatred toward you, and once again, thank you for your comment.

ADDITION:

If you ask Turkish citizens in the forum, I believe they will naturally confirm what I’ve said. Therefore, you can have Turkish people you know investigate and look into this matter.

 

[Antvasima]

To our staff members:

So what should we currently do here?

 

[Shiedaisthepeak]

Aren't you aware that the link you gave goes to a random video that has nothing to do with the TV series you mentioned?

I think this might come across as evasive, but it's a joke from a show, as I would say for the series. I’ve clarified this again in the TikTok link I shared I was simply repeating the joke.

Also, all the episodes of the series you mentioned have already been to YouTube, so you can give us a video and timestamp of where exactly the "joke" you mentioned was said. There are many people in this forum who can translate from turkish to english, it is quite easy to determine whether you is telling the truth or not.

Go ahead, ask whoever you want and do your research. However, if you’re going to approach me as someone who “lies to cover up their wrongdoing,” I don’t take that very well. So, my request is this: please don’t talk to me in that manner.

ADDİTİON:
I don’t believe I did this, but seriously, posting it as a screenshot would be pointless. Anyway, here’s the explanation regarding its connection to the show:



The joke was made based on this episode, and if you translate and look into it along with its meanings, you’ll see that this is the case. Additionally, you can ask the Turkish members on the forum, and they will confirm it as well.

So what should we currently do here?

I don’t want to interfere with your work, nor do I have the right to do so, but this time, you could issue a strict warning. This is just my personal opinion.

 

[Robo432343]

yap

i don't mean to interrupt but you don't even know this person close enough and you still sent that creepy ass message
Even if you do that’s still weird

 

[Shiedaisthepeak]

i don't mean to interrupt but you don't even know this person and you still sent that creepy ass message

Where did you get the idea that I don’t know this person? (close) I can send more Imgur links to demonstrate my connection with them if needed.

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If I hadn’t done this under the guise of a joke and had genuinely meant it, yes, it would have been no different from harassment. You’re right about that. However, my closeness with the person (in the past) was such that we were close enough for me to make this kind of joke and yes, it’s strange or unusual, but much of Turkish humor is based on swearing (often in a sexual sense). So, I’m not blaming you—thank you for sharing your perspective on the matter

 

[CodeCCLL]

The joke was made based on this episode,

In your first comment here, you said that what you said was a joke about a line from the TV series "Akasya Durağı", and I wanted you to prove it.

However now, you sent a video of a completely different TV series that has nothing to do with the series you mentioned in the beginning, and there is not a single line in the video you sent related to the disturbing comment you made.

I will not comment further at this point.

 

[Shiedaisthepeak]

However now, you sent a video of a completely different TV series that has nothing to do with the series you mentioned in the beginning, and there is not a single line in the video you sent related to the disturbing comment you made.

I believe you may not know the meaning of "görcen," so I’ll provide my own explanation:

"Görcen" (excuse my language) means to expose one’s private parts. To prove this, you can check the meme explanations provided in the comments—here are the references. (here)

And once again, I want to emphasize that I’m making this comment to correct myself and to address my initial mistake. This is not a lie, and I’m not twisting what I’ve been defending. However, your comment was hurtful.

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I’ve already stated that I presented the joke by “modifying” it. So, what is your judgment against me on this matter now?And you can check the comments or research it on YouTube; the topic is based on a sexual joke.

And I’d like to add that I said “ya Gilgamesh abi” here to turn the person’s fanboying into humor. I have no personal insult toward the individual; I simply made a joke about their fanboying.

 

[Antvasima]

@DarkDragonMedeus @Mr. Bambu @Just_a_Random_Butler @Agnaa @Celestial_Pegasus @Wokistan @Ultima_Reality @Elizhaa @Qawsedf234 @ByAsura @Sir_Ovens @Damage3245 @Starter_Pack @Abstractions @Colonel_Krukov @SamanPatou @GyroNutz @Firestorm808 @Everything12 @Maverick_Zero_X @Crabwhale @DarkGrath @Dereck03 @Planck69

We seem to need some help here.

 

[Antvasima]

@ShionAH @NothingToDebateWith @HalilAssassino @MarkGoldbridge

We also seem to need some help from people with expertice in the Turkish language here.

 

[Shiedaisthepeak]

We also seem to need some help from people with expertice in the Turkish language here.

Thank you for your understanding. If possible, would it be okay for someone knowledgeable about the topic (the joke) to provide their testimony here?

 

[ShionAH]

We also seem to need some help from people with expertice in the Turkish language here.

Can you quote me what I need to translate? or give information on

 

[Shiedaisthepeak]

Can you quote me what I need to translate? or give information on

Here you go.

 

[ShionAH]

Alright so this is not from "Akasya Durağı" this is from "Seksenler" but I will say yes there is an actual similar gag in the TV show though obviously it doesn't contain the swear words or those names.

Anyways saying "Amını yiyim mi" or "Can I eat your pussy" is kind of too weird to say to someone you don't know well but seeing the whole comment it is clearly just him warping the original gag (which turned into a meme in Turkey recently) into a weirder crude joke. Especially him singing the theme song right after shows it is very much not a serious request/comment.

All in all, its very clearly based on a meme and he is not lying, but he did warp the meme to be more crude. If he was friends with this person before I assume they were trying to ligthen up the mood between them and break the ice but didn't work.

 

[CodeCCLL]

give information on

Read the relevant comments starting from this comment and you will understand.

 

[Shiedaisthepeak]

All in all, its very clearly based on a meme and he is not lying, but he did warp the meme to be more crude. If he was friends with this person before I assume they were trying to ligthen up the mood between them and break the ice but didn't work.

We used to be friends, but as my friend mentioned above, my relationship with them deteriorated later on. That’s the current situation, entirely for now.
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It’s humor based on their Gilgamesh fanboying. As a Turkish person, I believe you’d understand the joke in this context and I’d like to add that, apart from this incident, I have not shown any disrespect or inappropriate behavior. Thank you for your explanation

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you very much for helping out, Shion.

So what do our other staff members think about this? Is a warning sufficient, or should we apply a ban for a few weeks?

 

[Sir_Ovens]

A warning should be fine. I'm not gonna scrutinise him for a culture I'm not familar with. But he should be mindful that our users come from all over the world and most won't understand the nuance behind jokes rooted in a particular region's culture.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for your input.

Is somebody in our staff willing to give him an official warning and add it to our warning tracker then?

 

[Shiedaisthepeak]

Is somebody in our staff willing to give him an official warning and add it to our warning tracker then?

Please excuse my ignorance, but if it’s not inappropriate to ask, is this warning simply a step toward banning me for my next mistake, or is it something that puts me at a disadvantage right now?

 

[Shiedaisthepeak]

A warning should be fine. I'm not gonna scrutinise him for a culture I'm not familar with. But he should be mindful that our users come from all over the world and most won't understand the nuance behind jokes rooted in a particular region's culture.

I’m sorry, and I promise this mistake will not happen again.

 

[Antvasima]

It is a warning. If we see a pattern of bad behaviour without improving in our warning tracker, we will eventually ban you for a long time.

 

[Shiedaisthepeak]

It is a warning. If we see a pattern of bad behaviour without improving in our warning tracker, we will eventually ban you for a long time.

I understand, and you can be sure that something like this will not happen again! Wishing you good luck and a great day.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for being reasonable, and the best to you as well.

 

[Catzlaflame]

Is somebody in our staff willing to give him an official warning and add it to our warning tracker then?

@Shiedaisthepeak

Warning. Do not make sexually implicit jokes to people that don’t welcome it/people you’re not close to. Added to tracker.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for helping out.

 

[Shiedaisthepeak]

Warning. Do not make sexually implicit jokes to people that don’t welcome it/people you’re not close to. Added to tracker.

I’d like to clarify: I was close to this person (at the time I made the joke), and we were a duo, but currently, we don’t have a positive friendship. Saying it like this is a bit hurtful because it makes me look like a harasser, which is genuinely disgusting.

Additionally, I had only commented on the person’s fanboying.

 

[Vzearr]

I’d like to clarify: I was close to this person (at the time I made the joke), and we were a duo, but currently, we don’t have a positive friendship. Saying it like this is a bit hurtful because it makes me look like a harasser, which is genuinely disgusting.

Additionally, I had only commented on the person’s fanboying.

This doesn't need to be continued.

 

[Shiedaisthepeak]

This doesn't need to be continued.

I just wanted to point it out please excuse me.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

@Mr. Bambu

It seems like your help has been requested here.

I've commented on CRTs, sure, but that doesn't really give me particular context here, in this situation. My time has been limited here, and so I typically wouldn't reply- still, I was asked for, so I'll speak.

I think Lephyr hit the nail on the head on a lot of points. I recognize people have given this a warning pass but I genuinely think a short ban is the more appropriate action, as it's a fairly grotesque statement to make, whether meant in jest or otherwise. I wouldn't lop on more points regarding it being in another language (acknowledging that this is against the rules) due to it being from some show, but it's still fairly bad. Making sexually charged and unwarranted and public statements towards another user, whether as a reference or joke or not, is unacceptable in my opinion.

I would be more satisfied with the report with at least a two week ban being applied, possibly higher.

That all said, it is not my intent to pursue this heavily, as the report has concluded: my opinion, or "help", was requested: make of it what you will.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

I would be more satisfied with the report with at least a two week ban being applied, possibly higher.

I'd be fine with that