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yes he did. the Cell max edit was 5 minutes after he was given a warning.
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Rule Violation Reports (New forum)
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Mr. Bambu
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It said fourth at the time of the warning drop, which means he is going a little crazy with the edits, having done four in the time since I began writing the message to sending it. I'll look into it.
Vietthai96
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Well, i reported him after his 4th edit so i can't keep track of time, especially i'm in completely different timezone. So i just report him again after i see him did more editings
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He apologized and willing to cooperate in the profile wall.
Mr. Bambu
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He definitely did continue editing after the warning but I choose to interpret this, combined with his apology and undoing of his own edits, as an accident. He has apologized, moving on.
Vietthai96
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Well, he did keep his word and return the profiles he edited back to their original, previous state before he edit. So we can moving on from this matter
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I reverted the edits.
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I wasn't so much fishing for a number, I presumed it'd just be indefinite.
I've now left a notification for a 6 month editing restriction.
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I see. It may be that the inclusion of edits that aren't rule violations is making me perceive this more generously than I usually would- noting that, I'm open to longer or indefinite if you'd prefer that?
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6 months looks good to me based on what happened above.
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Reporting @Coomandar for this post where he blatantly instructs another user to kill themselves.
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I believe so. I just wanted to get a second opinion to make sure.
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Last time we did not. So, not sure, I cited all fandom regulations and ours in this post.
But this has gotten out of hand. Fandom literally treats it as equivalent to the n-word, and this is a serious offense. We should either adhere to this in all cases or handle it on a case-by-case basis, and I prefer the former.
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Okay. I have applied the ban to them.
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Since I’m related to this, I’m just gonna say that me and Coom know eachother well, and I wouldn’t have even considered reporting this, despite being the one he said it to
but rules are rules I guess? This is all very sudden.
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Users should know better. This isn't a place for inside jokes if they violate our rules.
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Let’s not act like this isn’t insane for a minute
I mean, the very least you coulda done was give a few minutes to get his discord or something
I mean clearly he didn’t know that there was a rule where saying that once would be an instant and permanent ban, saying “he knows the rules” is a wild claim
I’m not gonna argue to unban him or anything, but just, geez dude
I mean, the very least you coulda done was give a few minutes to get his discord or something
I mean clearly he didn’t know that there was a rule where saying that once would be an instant and permanent ban, saying “he knows the rules” is a wild claim
I’m not gonna argue to unban him or anything, but just, geez dude
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Not that I am involved, but I don't want users here to see this conversation and perceive it as an unfair case or “mod abuse”.
This rule has been a thing for years since 2016. (since creation to be precise)
In no dictionary can this be defined as “sudden”.
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I'm not going to argue it here because that's not what this thread is for, but ignorance of the rules is not a great argument for his defense.
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He has been warned, and banned multiple times for being toxic iirc. And this really steps over that line, I'd say a permaban is in order.
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Your comment was deleted as you're not staff nor are you the reported party, but this sentiment gets expressed often so I'll address it. In the absolute best case scenario the only mitigating information that could be offered was "I was joking and we're friends." There's no real reason to wait around for that kind of info because, as we showed above, our rules don't change in that circumstance. You can't tell people to kill themselves on this forum, period.
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By the way, I haven't seen Ziller's comment when I posted. And Ziller not being offended is good news at least, but being good friends is still not an excuse for violating Fandom TOS combined with the fact that Coomander has still been warned/banned multiple times before (Though maybe for other reasons but this is still not a positive influence). I could see proposals to shorten it with his reason being "Making a suicide remark" as opposed to outright encouragement, but it is still not something we can take lightly unless we want Fandom staff to step in and just permaban anyway and having them scold us for letting it slide.
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I’d be willing to bargain for it being shortened, since he’s not really contactable to do it himself at the moment
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Then, if I may ask, why the similiar case prior to this is excluded and excused? When I approached a report against the same exact offense here, it got rejected because of the defense, and @Deagonx already explained why it is irrelevant.
I am talking about this case:
Rule Violation Reports (New forum)
Yeah, I agree with Lephyr that there was banter between them, but Shion was clearly the instigator as well as the one who was the harsher side of the banter.
And the user had previous offenses such as warnings and temp bans. I can confidently say, there is no significant difference and I would like the case to be re-evaluated.
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Monkeman wasn't even banned iirc, though I may misremember. And I also don't entirely remember Coomander's full history, the name sounds familiar as someone I recall getting reported and banned for hostile/toxic behavior towards Damage. I know, case by case scenario but the post getting removed is a bare minimum yes. And I am open for second opinions.Then, if I may ask, why the case prior to this is excluded and excused? Since when I approached a report against the same exact offense here, it got rejected because of the defense, and @Deagonx already explained why it is irrelevant.
I am talking about this case:
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Yeah, I agree with Lephyr that there was banter between them, but Shion was clearly the instigator as well as the one who was the harsher side of the banter.vsbattles.com
DaMonkeMan
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Well ignoring the fact that it's none of your business and you aren't staff (thus you really shouldn't be here anyway), the reason I haven't been perma banned for that is because it was a very blatant joke to someone that knew it was a joke and didn't care, and I also only had one major offense two months ago, which even then only resulted in a one month ban.
Also, I got a serious warning from two Admins for it, which I saw and accepted, so I'm confused as to how this is supposed to be comparable to what Coomandar did.
Also, I got a serious warning from two Admins for it, which I saw and accepted, so I'm confused as to how this is supposed to be comparable to what Coomandar did.
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He was temporary banned for 1 month. @Deagonx, @Crabwhale, @Mr._Bambu can vouch this.
But what is the point? The rule itself excludes the relevance of someone's history. And @Deagonx already described it perfectly that even defenses are not included:
It is treated the same as n-word from the perspective of our rules and Fandom off-site regulations.
DaMonkeMan
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I also don't recall seeing anyone get banned for saying that before I and Coomandar said it, so I don't know how I was really supposed to know about that rule and remember it, but what ever.
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I am not entirely sure myself why no action was taken in that case. There should have been.
By reading the "Site Rules" page.
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I am submitting a re-evaluation to my report. I don't think the case is any different to this one. As you have stated, the joke part is not an excuse against the rule, and the user in question had many warnings and was temporarily banned before. So I highly doubt about not awareness of the existence of the rule, and by no means he is immune to it.
As a fact I stated above, the rule has been a thing since the creation of rules made by @Antvasima
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I believe it's unnecessary for me to be a staff member or directly involved in the case to report someone on the forum. My purpose here is to ask for a reconsideration of my own case.
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