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No, the current rule is fine, it is explicitly stated
As long as the versus thread remains current, there is no violation of rules. This is precisely why an exception was made for versus threads, as characters can still be updated even if they have been inactive for an extended period of time. Therefore, instead of creating a duplicated thread, you may engage in debate within the existing versus thread.
Do other staff members here think that this seems acceptable?Should I change the following text:
There is no exact time limit as long as the characters in question are not outdated.
To this instead, for better clarification?
There is no exact time limit as long as the characters involved in a versus thread are not mismatched, due to their statistics being outdated.
Do you mean they like, made an alt to do that ( as in they have a main account that they use to also disagree with the thread and made an alt to help their self )? Or they just made an account to troll/harass people on a thread?Just asking (thought asking here is better because it's RVR thread)
If someone creates a account just to disagree with a thread then they haven't participated in any other threads from the moment the account got created and they keep Stonewalling the thread with same repeated Arguments and disagreeing with personal belief and for them only goal is participating in that thread & disagreeing.
Is this report worthy? Or we just leave these accounts to thier own basis?
Any staff can delete this comment later.
I just wanted to know. If this considered as trolling or something?
You are misunderstanding something here:This still doesn't account for very old threads which aren't outdated by stat mismatches. I thought the whole point of this was to deter people from bumping old threads because people don't wanna see pings on threads that were made years ago. Would it not be better to have them make new threads?
A account was created the same day my thread was created and it's been 3 days that account hasn't participated in any other threads it seems they are trying to Stonewall my thread only. And refutes given by them doesn't make sense. Even many people Pointed out. That guy doens't seems to think his POV is wrong even after many people Disagreed with him. Also I feel like he created the account just to disagree with my thread only (it's just my feelings though knowing he is only Fixed on my thread only and created the account same day as my thread was created). But I feel it is too much of an thing to consider as some coincidence.Do you mean they like, made an alt to do that ( as in they have a main account that they use to also disagree with the thread and made an alt to help their self )? Or they just made an account to troll/harass people on a thread?
Have you had any bad encounters with other members beforehand? May be someone making an alt to get revenge on you for something in the past.A account was created the same day my thread was created and it's been 3 days that account hasn't participated in any other threads it seems they are trying to Stonewall my thread only. And refutes given by them doesn't make sense. Even many people Pointed out. That guy doens't seems to think his POV is wrong even after many people Disagreed with him. Also I feel like he created the account just to disagree with my thread only (it's just my feelings though knowing he is only Fixed on my thread only and created the account same day as my thread was created). But I feel it is too much of an thing to consider as some coincidence.
More like he is spamming random things which doesn't make sense. Looks like a troll to me.
I wanted to confirm before reporting him.
I have had heated argument with few users in the past but I don't think i had any bad encounter with people on the level of creating an alt account to disagree with me. I am not sure.Have you had any bad encounters with other members beforehand? May be someone making an alt to get revenge on you for something in the past.
Ok Thanks.New accounts such as that are suspect but not rule violations in of themselves. Stonewalling can be safely looked past if agreement is had more or less universally aside from them.
yes, those reports are what i have a problem with. the rule is perfectly fine.@BigSmoke4269
As a thread moderator, it falls within their duties to assess whether a user who has received a warning in the RvR thread has violated any regulations. The problem arises from users making baseless reports, rather than with the system itself.
The idea of allowing members to block others may seem attractive, however, I am concerned about its potential negative impact on the community. Granting such power may foster an environment of avoidance and ostracism, reduce accountability and even silence diverse perspectives. Instead of relying on the ability to block, I think it would be more effective to focus on fostering respectful and productive communication. This goal can be accomplished by setting straightforward standards for appropriate conduct, imposing consequences on those who engage in harmful or disruptive behavior, and providing better access to resources that help resolve conflicts.I don't wanna start anything so I won't say why I want this but I feel there should be some kind of button that lets you block obnoxious people out, like they can respond to you and what not but you won't get any notifications and have to choose to see their message.
Like the Discord block button or the Ignore button from Worstgen.
I understand. I see to it that while this can be a good idea at first, it can lead to a ton of trouble and people misusing it for their own benefits.The idea of allowing members to block others may seem attractive, however, I am concerned about its potential negative impact on the community. Granting such power may foster an environment of avoidance and ostracism, reduce accountability and even silence diverse perspectives. Instead of relying on the ability to block, I think it would be more effective to focus on fostering respectful and productive communication. This goal can be accomplished by setting straightforward standards for appropriate conduct, imposing consequences on those who engage in harmful or disruptive behavior, and providing better access to resources that help resolve conflicts.
Yes, and it can also significantly disrupt content revision threads if several of the members who participate ignore each other.The idea of allowing members to block others may seem attractive, however, I am concerned about its potential negative impact on the community. Granting such power may foster an environment of avoidance and ostracism, reduce accountability and even silence diverse perspectives. Instead of relying on the ability to block, I think it would be more effective to focus on fostering respectful and productive communication. This goal can be accomplished by setting straightforward standards for appropriate conduct, imposing consequences on those who engage in harmful or disruptive behavior, and providing better access to resources that help resolve conflicts.
Yes, pretty much, although we need to make very clear that unfinished old versus threads should only be responded to if the character statistics still match each other, and not under any other circumstances.You are misunderstanding something here:
Here, the rule is to generally avoid reviving old threads, as it may annoy those who have been following the thread but have no energy to participate. However, an exception is made for versus threads, as the statistics of the character in question may still be relevant.
There is a distinction between any thread and a versus thread where the characters are still up-to-date statistically (possibly).
While you may choose to start a new thread instead of debating on an old one, it is better to address any unresolved arguments in the original thread, in my personal opinion.
Well, I personally think that it would likely be a good idea to write a rule that states that single-issue accounts, that were registered solely to stonewall very specific revision threads, are not allowed.A account was created the same day my thread was created and it's been 3 days that account hasn't participated in any other threads it seems they are trying to Stonewall my thread only. And refutes given by them doesn't make sense. Even many people Pointed out. That guy doens't seems to think his POV is wrong even after many people Disagreed with him. Also I feel like he created the account just to disagree with my thread only (it's just my feelings though knowing he is only Fixed on my thread only and created the account same day as my thread was created). But I feel it is too much of an thing to consider as some coincidence.
More like he is spamming random things which doesn't make sense. Looks like a troll to me.
I wanted to confirm before reporting him.
Okay. Thanks!Well, I personally think that it would likely be a good idea to write a rule that states that single-issue accounts, that were registered solely to stonewall very specific revision threads, are not allowed.
There are many people who have responded to the comment and therefore it is still visible in their answers... What do we do in these cases?I deleted the comment.
There's nothing wrong with creating an account to participate in a thread that you're interested in. I don't recall there being a rule about how active you need to be.Okay. Thanks!
But can someone investigate this account @Georredannea15 . I mean can any Staff ask what's his purpose for creating an account in wiki? (Just a request though.)
I don't see this guy participating in any other CRTs and it's too much of an coincidence he created the account on same day as my thread was created. It's already been 3 days still it doens't seem he is interested in anything else. Also he is just ignoring the context and not even properly addressing whatever arguments given in my thread.
Otherwise I am fine with what @Mr._Bambu suggested.
There's nothing wrong with creating an account to participate in a thread that you're interested in. I don't recall there being a rule about how active you need to be.
^^^Well, I personally think that it would likely be a good idea to write a rule that states that single-issue accounts, that were registered solely to stonewall very specific revision threads, are not allowed.
Beside I didn't reported him. I asked staffs to take a look at his account because of it being too much of an coincidence & suspicious. Well I don't care at this point if he is biased enough to create a account to disagree with my thread or not. The case already closed don't start unnecessary things.On top of that, you have no legitimate reason to report him. He hasn't trolled or harassed you or your thread, he's just offered arguments for why he disagrees with the thread. It's fair if you don't agree with his arguments, but there's no ill intent in them.
Otherwise I am fine with what @Mr._Bambu suggested.
If you're willing to drop the topic then I will as well. I'll just say one thing before that however; You presented @Georredannea15 to this thread as if he deliberately created his account to be obnoxious and stonewall your thread. That's not what happened. He offered his arguments and you disagreed with those arguments. That's not a case of stonewalling and it would be unfair to try to report him for that.^^^
Beside I didn't reported him. I asked staffs to take a look at his account because of it being too much of an coincidence & suspicious. Well I don't care at this point if he is biased enough to create a account to disagree with my thread or not. The case already closed don't start unnecessary things.
I already said if they are not willing to take a look it i am fine with that so drop the topic.
If you're willing to drop the topic then I will as well. I'll just say one thing before that however; You presented @Georredannea15 to this thread as if he deliberately created his account to be obnoxious and stonewall your thread. That's not what happened. He offered his arguments and you disagreed with those arguments. That's not a case of stonewalling and it would be unfair to try to report him for that.
Beside I didn't reported him. I asked staffs to take a look at his account because of it being too much of an coincidence & suspicious. Well I don't care at this point if he is biased enough to create a account to disagree with my thread or not. The case already closed don't start unnecessary things.
I already said if they are not willing to take a look it i am fine with that so drop the topic.
Do I need to explain?
Someone delete and ban this dude
@Seventy96just give him a very stern warning and a temp ban
he's usually fine, ive never seen him act even remotely close to that, he is generally chill and just asks questions about stuff
Short ban looks better IMHO, especially given that he's been warned multiple times and instead he doubled, no, triple-downed on it.Both Abstractions and Glass gave him warnings on the thread and he stull doubled down by the looks of it. I propose a thread ban a minimum and possibly a short ban from the forum.