REMATCH: King of anime vs Queen of anime (Hopefully not a stomp)

[Grand_Saver_Ritsuka]

Son Goku vs Sailor Moon!
Originally, when the wikia began, Goku was considered leagues superior to sailor moon. However, then sailor Moon had a revision, and she and her verse became so op that she stomped the entire dragon ball verse effortlessly and dragon ball vs sailor moon matches were banned because she is so haxed.
Now, Goku has a new variant, Xeno Goku, with the release of dragon ball heroes. Can xeno goku finally stand a chance against sailor moon??
Speed equalized.
ROUND 1: Xeno goku has the key sword.
ROUND 2: Xenoku lacks the keysword
BEGIN

 

[ElixirBlue]

Is Sailor Moon in the same tier as Xeno Goku?

 

[Rez]

It is an stomp

 

[Bernkastelll]

Son Goku vs Sailor Moon!
Originally, when the wikia began, Goku was considered leagues superior to sailor moon. However, then sailor Moon had a revision, and she and her verse became so op that she stomped the entire dragon ball verse effortlessly and dragon ball vs sailor moon matches were banned because she is so haxed.
Now, Goku has a new variant, Xeno Goku, with the release of dragon ball heroes. Can xeno goku finally stand a chance against sailor moon??
Speed equalized.
ROUND 1: Xeno goku has the key sword.
ROUND 2: Xenoku lacks the keysword
BEGIN

It already happend before and Goku incaps due Dimensional Domain and others ****

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

What can Goku even due to Sailor Moon? He can't put her down and she can instantly erase him.

What exactly is dimensional domain? that last thread closed with zero input from anyone with knowledge from sailor moon. So it shouldn't count.

 

[Grand_Saver_Ritsuka]

What can Goku even due to Sailor Moon? He can't put her down and she can instantly erase him.

What exactly is dimensional domain? that last thread closed with zero input from anyone with knowledge from sailor moon. So it shouldn't count.

Wait, is sailor moon's regen instanteneous? Because as far as i remember, sailor moon was knocked out for a long time in galaxy claudron before waking up.

 

[Grand_Saver_Ritsuka]

What can Goku even due to Sailor Moon? He can't put her down and she can instantly erase him.

What exactly is dimensional domain? that last thread closed with zero input from anyone with knowledge from sailor moon. So it shouldn't count.

Well
1. He has the keysword, which is ridiculously above baseline 2-A power null and sealing. It also gives you resistance to all hax like existence erasure, soul/mind manipulation, temporal BFR, power null, time manipulation and it even resists resistence negation, all at a way above baseline 2-A level.
2. He can summon super shenron, demigra, chronoa to aid him in battle, who are themselves hax lords with 2-A sealing with moon doesn't resist. THeir abilities also bypass resistences at 2-A level. Demigra himself can summon mira and towa.
3. Dimensional domain resets opponent's stamina to 1 , and demigra can also reduce it to 0 and this includes the androids who have infinite stamina. This also allows him to resistence negation at a 2-A level.
I can go on.
Basically, he can negs moon's resistences and seals her.
What are moon's passives?

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

Wait, is sailor moon's regen instanteneous? Because as far as i remember, sailor moon was knocked out for a long time in galaxy claudron before waking up.

She woke up right after she was erased. And before that scene, cosmos confirmed she was apart of the stream of stars regenerating from the cauldron and going back home.

Well
1. He has the keysword, which is ridiculously above baseline 2-A power null and sealing. It also gives you resistance to all hax like existence erasure, soul/mind manipulation, temporal BFR, power null, time manipulation and it even resists resistence negation, all at a way above baseline 2-A level.
2. He can summon super shenron, demigra, chronoa to aid him in battle, who are themselves hax lords with 2-A sealing with moon doesn't resist. THeir abilities also bypass resistences at 2-A level. Demigra himself can summon mira and towa.
3. Dimensional domain resets opponent's stamina to 1 , and demigra can also reduce it to 0 and this includes the androids who have infinite stamina. This also allows him to resistence negation at a 2-A level.
I can go on.
Basically, he negs moon's resistences and seals her.

What level of existence erasure? Sailor Moon erased Chaos who resisted the High Godly erasure of the Cauldron.

And I'm assuming the dimensional domain is a game mechanic? What is the androids stamina stat in the video game the move is from?

 

[Grand_Saver_Ritsuka]

She woke up right after she was erased. And before that scene, cosmos confirmed she was apart of the stream of stars regenerating from the cauldron and going back home.



What level of existence erasure? Sailor Moon erased Chaos who resisted the High Godly erasure of the Cauldron.

And I'm assuming the dimensional domain is a game mechanic? What is the androids stamina stat in the video game the move is from?

Yeah, the fact she was sleeping for an entire panel means her regen is not instanteneous. That is enough for goku to seal her.
Well, demigra can erase all of time and space, and erase someone from history at a 2-A level making as if the erased person never existed.
Did sailor moon completely erase chaos? Because sailor chaos was a thing, and correct me if i am wrong, it was said sailor moon cannot completely destroy chaos unless she nukes the claudron as well.
As for dimensional domain, it is a skill that passively turns stamina to 1. Demigra has his own variant that turns stamina to 0. this also works on mechikabura who also had limitless stamina if the latter had not resisted it.

Mechikabura

Mechikabura (メチカブラ, Mechikabura?) is an ancient evil demon from the Demon Realm who founded the Dark Empire, and rules it as the Dark King. Originally a candidate for the role of Supreme Kai of Time, competing with Chronoa for that title and losing to her, he desires to rule all of space-time...

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Son Goku (Xeno)

At some point in history, an alternative timeline version of Son Goku becomes a fundamental ally to the Time Patrol when he is recruited as a Time Patroller by the Supreme Kai of Time. Tier: Low 1-C | Low 1-C | Low 1-C | Low 1-C Key: Dark Demon Realm Mission | Universe Mission | Big Bang Mission...

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All characters have 3 stamina bars in sdbh. Both are game mechanics, actually. The 3 bars just represent the stamina you can use.

Help with Stamina Basics - Super Dragon Ball Heroes: World Mission

For Super Dragon Ball Heroes: World Mission on the Nintendo Switch, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Help with Stamina Basics".

gamefaqs.gamespot.com

Tho idk for dbh.
Do you mind me asking where does sailor moon's infinite stamina comes from?

 

[Grand_Saver_Ritsuka]

BTW is me debating against the rules of the wikia since i created this thread?

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

Yeah, the fact she was sleeping for an entire panel means her regen is not instanteneous. That is enough for goku to seal her.

She was completely erased in one panel. And in the next panel she appears fully formed. She wasn't sleeping as she was thinking to her self and immediately remembers that she was erased moments before and gets up in the very next panel.

And we know no time passed in that moment because Cosmos confirms to the quartet that she and the others were part of the stream of stars returning home, which immediately regenerated and appeared from the cauldron after she was erased.

Well, demigra can erase all of time and space, and erase someone from history at a 2-A level making as if the erased person never existed.

The cauldron erases from history and information. Chaos already resists that and Sailor Moon was able to bypass that resistance.

Did sailor moon completely erase chaos? Because sailor chaos was a thing, and correct me if i am wrong, it was said sailor moon cannot completely destroy chaos unless she nukes the claudron as well.

Yes. Chaos will reincarnate and come back in one form or another as long as the cauldron exists.

All characters have 3 stamina bars in sdbh.

If all the characters have 3 stamina bars, then it doesn't make sense to say that this would work on Sailor Moon who has infinite stamina. The ability seems limited by its mechanics.

 

[Grand_Saver_Ritsuka]

She was completely erased in one panel. And in the next panel she appears fully formed. She wasn't sleeping as she was thinking to her self and immediately remembers that she was erased moments before and gets up in the very next panel.

And we know no time passed in that moment because Cosmos confirms to the quartet that she and the others were part of the stream of stars returning home, which immediately regenerated and appeared from the cauldron after she was erased.



The cauldron erases from history and information. Chaos already resists that and Sailor Moon was able to bypass that resistance.


Yes. Chaos will reincarnate and come back in one form or another as long as the cauldron exists.

If all the characters have 3 stamina bars, then it doesn't make sense to say that this would work on Sailor Moon who has infinite stamina. The ability seems limited by its mechanics.

"Yes. Chaos will reincarnate and come back in one form or another as long as the cauldron exists."
In other words, sailor moon only temporarily killed her, basically. Also, isn't chaos already NEP2? How she resists it then if she already nonexistent?
That 3 bar represents the stamina of the characters. Also, dbh (Not sdh) was actually before the fact that the androids have infinite stamina was revealed. Also, why would sailor moon's infinite stamina would not be reset to 1? Lot's of db characters have been stated to have limitless energy.

https://vsbattles.com/threads/mechokabura-fights-himself-but-2-b.118781/#post-3887059

Also, sailor moon isn't bypassing chronoa's time stop, since she is basically budget ren fuji.

 

[Ss3micah]

What's going on here?

 

[Ss3micah]

This is a stomp
And it will become more of a stomp the keysword is gonna get even more upgrades in the coming days
But even at present it's way too much
With or without keysword for previous reasons this is a stomp

 

[Ss3micah]

For those who don't know here's some insight on how DD and Stamina works

According to VS Wiki standards
Stamina is an attribute that allows a certain character to remain active, exert itself to prolonged periods of time, and recover from ordeals.

Now logically and even fictionally speaking. When a character is running low on stamina they become very exhausted, there movements sluggish, their attacks diminished and their state of mind being disoriented. It's natural that in General when a character uses up too much of there own stamina they would be in a state of being barely able to move, there thinking is disoriented, the effect/impact of their powers weakened and the lose the ability to fight back or defend themselves effectively.
Now this is the case for Low levels of Stamina

DBH Characters in general can all cause Stamina Damage during battle, so mid battle the opponents stamina would be plummeting more than normally as the opponent themselves will be using up their own stamina during the fight as all attacks and techniques and abilities they use would expend their energy (unless they have limitless/infinite stamina)

As for Dimensional Domain
A persons stamina becomes a value of 1. We are talking about very critically low levels of stamina here. At this level of stamina the body is so massively deprived of energy that it becomes impossible to move, thinking clearly and rationally becomes impossible as well as stamina also affects the brains functionality and the minds ability to think. And with literally an energy level of 1, using powers and abilities that require the use of energy/stamina becomes quite virtually impossible due to the lack of energy. Also at this level of Energy, the body has lost way too much energy for it to sustain itself therefore borderline inducing unconsciousness.

Also please note, Dimensional Domain will continuously and passively set the opponents stamina to a value of 1 and it works against those with infinite stamina as well. Even if the opponent uses recover effects and abilities to recover their stamina, DD will activate once again resetting back to 1 at all times.

And when we get to 0 Stamina now
Well at zero stamina the body is completely deprived of all trace of energy. Movement and thought quite literally become impossible as the body has no energy to move on and the mind has no energy to think with And when the body loses all energy and stamina it completely induces unconsciousness stripping the opponent of all possible options of attacking or defending himself.

As for Stun
When a character is with Status Effect of stun, all there abilities loses their effects and/or their abilities cannot be activated (this affect passives as well) until they recover from the stun state, either by natural recovering it overtime or through the use of recovery items/abilities.

 

[Vietthai96]

Goku don't need to kill Moon, he just need to incap her to win the battle, unless OP specific that must kill to win a battle

High Godly Erasure is Conceptual Erasure, not Existence Erasure, he still resist EE
Like the topic before this, the only chance for her is use Void Manipulation on Goku. But DD will cap her stamina at 1 so it effectively seal her movement as her stamina only 1, perform any action she will incap herself so her only hope is thought-based or passive hax that could do something to Goku

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

"Yes. Chaos will reincarnate and come back in one form or another as long as the cauldron exists."
In other words, sailor moon only temporarily killed her, basically. Also, isn't chaos already NEP2? How she resists it then if she already nonexistent?

That's not what happened.

That 3 bar represents the stamina of the characters. Also, dbh (Not sdh) was actually before the fact that the androids have infinite stamina was revealed. Also, why would sailor moon's infinite stamina would not be reset to 1? Lot's of db characters have been stated to have limitless energy.

If you divide Sailor Moon's stamina into 3 bars, 1 bar would still be infinite.

https://vsbattles.com/threads/mechokabura-fights-himself-but-2-b.118781/#post-3887059 Also, sailor moon isn't bypassing chronoa's time stop, since she is basically budget ren fuji.

Sailor Moon is unaffected by time stop. And even if, Goku doesn't open with time stop.

Also please note, Dimensional Domain will continuously and passively set the opponents stamina to a value of 1 and it works against those with infinite stamina as well. Even if the opponent uses recover effects and abilities to recover their stamina, DD will activate once again resetting back to 1 at all times.

Unless the characters were said and presented of having infinite stamina in game, then it won't work. And from the sounds of it, they don't. They have 3 bars. That's not infinite, and reducing infinite stamina to a third, is still infinite.

High Godly Erasure is Conceptual Erasure, not Existence Erasure, he still resist EE

High Godly erasure is the highest form of existence erasure. It's existence erasure that include conceptual erasure. Goku is not resisting that.

her only hope is thought-based or passive hax that could do something to Goku

Her attack are thought based and will erase him. And is what she opens with every time.

 

[Vietthai96]

If you divide Sailor Moon's stamina into 3 bars, 1 bar would still be infinite.


Sailor Moon is unaffected by time stop. And even if, Goku doesn't open with time stop.



Unless the characters were said and presented of having infinite stamina in game, then it won't work. And from the sounds of it, they don't. They have 3 bars. That's not infinite, and reducing infinite stamina to a third, is still infinite.


High Godly erasure is the highest form of existence erasure. It's existence erasure that include conceptual erasure. Goku is not resisting that.



Her attack are thought based and will erase him. And is what she opens with every time.

1. DD not reduce anything, it set the value to 1 rather than traditional reduction. for example, Moon have infinite stamina value, DD set that value to 1 not reduce it to 1
2. What layer of her resistance, and Goku will summon hax character on his second move if he don't have keysword, with it he seal
3. That not how it work, you forcefully using game mechanic in a wrong way
4. EE and Conceptual Erasure is not the same, you can erase concept doesn't mean you can erase all, show me the feat
5. Show me what attack are thought-based and show the scane, claim every attack thought-based is baseless claim, i read her manga, never saw any of her attack are thought-based, always require her movement.

Edit: need to sleep for awhile, return later

 

[Grand_Saver_Ritsuka]

That's not what happened.



If you divide Sailor Moon's stamina into 3 bars, 1 bar would still be infinite.


Sailor Moon is unaffected by time stop. And even if, Goku doesn't open with time stop.



Unless the characters were said and presented of having infinite stamina in game, then it won't work. And from the sounds of it, they don't. They have 3 bars. That's not infinite, and reducing infinite stamina to a third, is still infinite.


High Godly erasure is the highest form of existence erasure. It's existence erasure that include conceptual erasure. Goku is not resisting that.



Her attack are thought based and will erase him. And is what she opens with every time.

1. Same concept can be applied to the androids
2. Goku has summons, he summons chronoa who can bypass time stop resistence and it works on even demigra who transcedns space-time.
3. what vietthat said
4. 2-A Power null can deal with her erasure
5. His summons is also thought based, and dimension domain is passive.

 

[Ss3micah]

If you divide Sailor Moon's stamina into 3 bars, 1 bar would still be infinite.

The bars of stamina are gameplay elements. Here on Vs Wiki we use a characters traditional stamina and DD affects that as well

Sailor Moon is unaffected by time stop. And even if, Goku doesn't open with time stop.

Goku can summon Chronoa who has resistance bypassing time stop and works against characters with multiple layers of time stop. Sailor ain't resisting

Unless the characters were said and presented of having infinite stamina in game, then it won't work. And from the sounds of it, they don't. They have 3 bars. That's not infinite, and reducing infinite stamina to a third, is still infinite.

Again, the stamina bars are gameplay aspects. Her on the Wiki we use a character's traditional stamina which DD can still affect. And once Sailor reaches stamina 1, she'll be in a state where she can't move, barely be able to think and borderline unconscious. Any action she takes afterwards that take even the most slightest of significant effort will automatically stun her essentially can't move, can't think and unconscious
And once stunned all her abilities will lose there effect

Goku can beat sailor be essentially trapping her in an instant incap loop or call chronoa or demigra who can erase all of her presence and actions across time with time labyrinth,

High Godly erasure is the highest form of existence erasure. It's existence erasure that include conceptual erasure. Goku is not resisting that.

What Viet said

Her attack are thought based and will erase him. And is what she opens with every time.

if her thought base abilities require concentration or focus then she's gonna have a very tough time because DD essentially puts her in a state where she's barely able to think let alone think up a thought about using EE and directing it at goku. I'm not saying she can't use it but essentially it's not gonna work as effectively under DD

And even then she'll only have one shot cause after that she get's stunned

 

[Ss3micah]

Also I gotta get some sleep as well
Let's debate this later on

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

I fail to see the criticalness of this DD. It does not reduce a character's stamina to one. It reduces a character's stamina from 3 bars to one bar. That's essentially reducing a character's stamina by a third. One-third of infinity is still infinity. It's not going to work on her. Plus, she recovers and regenerates stamina almost instantly, plus immune to powernull and energy negation by bypassing time and space.

Also, when Sailor moon is incapicpated, the silver crystal can activate on it's own to protect her and can attack her enemies. She's resists time stop, fate and probability manipulation.

Sailor Moon characters can sound off any attack with an incantation with can be thought of or said. Movement is not required, and if it was, we are talking about mere reflex like gestures like pointing, tipping her wand. And her most powerful attack is 100% thought based:

https://sailormoongallery.org/albums/scanlation_smoon/smoon_act60/010.jpg

https://sailormoongallery.org/albums/scanlation_smoon/smoon_act60/009.jpg

and requires no movement.

She opens with an attack that can erase Goku. I don't understand this argument about High Godly Erasure not being Existence Erasure because it is. Goku's aspects do not survive if his concept or information were erased. Sailor Moon's attacks erase the body and soul etc. automatically.

Goku's win condition requires him to incapacitate her and seal her, which are not what's he's going to open with. His other options are to summon other people, whom are also can be erased by her. Sailor Moon has High Godly Regen, she will regenerate if anyone erase her.

Sailor Moon's win condition is to erase him which she always opens with. With the Lambda power she has precognition.

 

[Ss3micah]

I fail to see the criticalness of this DD. It does not reduce a character's stamina to one. It reduces a character's stamina from 3 bars to one bar. That's essentially reducing a character's stamina by a third. One-third of infinity is still infinity. It's not going to work on her. Plus, she recovers and regenerates stamina almost instantly, plus immune to powernull and energy negation by bypassing time and space.

Also, when Sailor moon is incapicpated, the silver crystal can activate on it's own to protect her and can attack her enemies. She's resists time stop, fate and probability manipulation.

Sailor Moon characters can sound off any attack with an incantation with can be thought of or said. Movement is not required, and if it was, we are talking about mere reflex like gestures like pointing, tipping her wand. And her most powerful attack is 100% thought based:

https://sailormoongallery.org/albums/scanlation_smoon/smoon_act60/010.jpg

https://sailormoongallery.org/albums/scanlation_smoon/smoon_act60/009.jpg

and requires no movement.

She opens with an attack that can erase Goku. I don't understand this argument about High Godly Erasure not being Existence Erasure because it is. Goku's aspects do not survive if his concept or information were erased. Sailor Moon's attacks erase the body and soul etc. automatically.

Goku's win condition requires him to incapacitate her and seal her, which are not what's he's going to open with. His other options are to summon other people, whom are also can be erased by her. Sailor Moon has High Godly Regen, she will regenerate if anyone erase her.

Sailor Moon's win condition is to erase him which she always opens with. With the Lambda power she has precognition.

Can we please put this one hold til later

No disrespect or anything I'm just saying let's put it in hold til later that's all

 

[Grand_Saver_Ritsuka]

I fail to see the criticalness of this DD. It does not reduce a character's stamina to one. It reduces a character's stamina from 3 bars to one bar. That's essentially reducing a character's stamina by a third. One-third of infinity is still infinity. It's not going to work on her. Plus, she recovers and regenerates stamina almost instantly, plus immune to powernull and energy negation by bypassing time and space.

And demigra's version reduces it to straight zero. Also, where does she regenerates stamina instantly?
She ain't resisting 2-A powernull without feats. Annd bypassing time and space? Demigra was transcedent of space time and yet he is affected.

Also, when Sailor moon is incapicpated, the silver crystal can activate on it's own to protect her and can attack her enemies. She's resists time stop, fate and probability manipulation.

Again, chronoa bypasses three layers of time stop resistence and that works on acausal beings and demigra who transcends time and space.

Sailor Moon characters can sound off any attack with an incantation with can be thought of or said. Movement is not required, and if it was, we are talking about mere reflex like gestures like pointing, tipping her wand. And her most powerful attack is 100% thought based:

https://sailormoongallery.org/albums/scanlation_smoon/smoon_act60/010.jpg

https://sailormoongallery.org/albums/scanlation_smoon/smoon_act60/009.jpg

and requires no movement.

.............I am leaving that to others. You seriously think that is thought based?

She opens with an attack that can erase Goku. I don't understand this argument about High Godly Erasure not being Existence Erasure because it is. Goku's aspects do not survive if his concept or information were erased. Sailor Moon's attacks erase the body and soul etc. automatically.

And goku opens up with his multiple 2-A probability manipulations. Meaning, usagi's attacks can't hit him to begin with.

Goku's win condition requires him to incapacitate her and seal her, which are not what's he's going to open with. His other options are to summon other people, whom are also can be erased by her. Sailor Moon has High Godly Regen, she will regenerate if anyone erase her.

Sailor Moon's win condition is to erase him which she always opens with. With the Lambda power she has precognition.

The demon gods like demigra exist outside of time, so i doubt precog can help. And you think demigra will just sit and let her erase him? Last time i checked, her erasure is touched based. What acausality does sailor moon possess? Cause demigra has type 4 and 1

 

[Grand_Saver_Ritsuka]

Can we please put this one hold til later

No disrespect or anything I'm just saying let's put it in hold til later that's all

ok dude.

 

[Rez]

Sailor moon doesn't even have concept manipulation so how is she erasing someone on a conceptual level her best feat is erasing a non existent being which only give npi

 

[Rez]

Can we please put this one hold til later

No disrespect or anything I'm just saying let's put it in hold til later that's all

Ok

 

[Grand_Saver_Ritsuka]

Sailor moon doesn't even have concept manipulation so how is she erasing someone on a conceptual level her best feat is erasing a non existent being which only give npi

idk why, vsbattles wiki treats star seeds are concepts based on some ultra vague flowery language. I personally think (and with me most other debators that is why you don't see star seeds being brought up in other versus debating places) it is just a verse exclusive thing, like stands in jojo or sacred gear in highschooldxd .

 

[Vietthai96]

I fail to see the criticalness of this DD. It does not reduce a character's stamina to one. It reduces a character's stamina from 3 bars to one bar. That's essentially reducing a character's stamina by a third. One-third of infinity is still infinity. It's not going to work on her. Plus, she recovers and regenerates stamina almost instantly, plus immune to powernull and energy negation by bypassing time and space.

Also, when Sailor moon is incapicpated, the silver crystal can activate on it's own to protect her and can attack her enemies. She's resists time stop, fate and probability manipulation.

Sailor Moon characters can sound off any attack with an incantation with can be thought of or said. Movement is not required, and if it was, we are talking about mere reflex like gestures like pointing, tipping her wand. And her most powerful attack is 100% thought based:

https://sailormoongallery.org/albums/scanlation_smoon/smoon_act60/010.jpg

https://sailormoongallery.org/albums/scanlation_smoon/smoon_act60/009.jpg

and requires no movement.

She opens with an attack that can erase Goku. I don't understand this argument about High Godly Erasure not being Existence Erasure because it is. Goku's aspects do not survive if his concept or information were erased. Sailor Moon's attacks erase the body and soul etc. automatically.

Goku's win condition requires him to incapacitate her and seal her, which are not what's he's going to open with. His other options are to summon other people, whom are also can be erased by her. Sailor Moon has High Godly Regen, she will regenerate if anyone erase her.

Sailor Moon's win condition is to erase him which she always opens with. With the Lambda power she has precognition.

1. DD instantly set the stamina to 1 that is, no matter her stamina is infinite or not. Even if she recover her stamina it will instabtly set it to 1 again.
2. What the hell is resist power null by bypassing space and time, show me the feat of her resistance.
3. I don't see anything about no movement here, she need to take out the crystal, raise her hand, and said the name of whatever she going to do, require a huge amount of effort. Other pic she need to move her arm and point the the staff, still movement. With stamina 1 she can't perform any action and she can't muster her full power in her attack. And i still don't see anything thought-based, claim a static image as thought-based or no movement attack feat is a baseless claim
4. In order to erase someone with High Godly you need EE along with Conceptual Erasure. Also what concept she can erase, assume she can erase on kind of concept is baseless claim. And Goku still resist EE at soul level so her attack affect soul doesn't mean a thing. Also with stamina = 1 she can't even do a single thing.
5. She can't erase anyone as all of them resist EE at the same level as Goku. And even though Goku open with ki blast which she will regen, and Goku realize it don't work then his second move is seal with Keysword and summon without it, and Chronoa or Demigra will just Time Labyrinth her which she have no answer for a 4D Sealing and 2-A range BFR

 

[Grand_Saver_Ritsuka]

1. DD instantly set the stamina to 1 that is, no matter her stamina is infinite or not. Even if she recover her stamina it will instabtly set it to 1 again.
2. What the hell is resist power null by bypassing space and time, show me the feat of her resistance.
3. I don't see anything about no movement here, she need to take out the crystal, raise her hand, and said the name of whatever she going to do, require a huge amount of effort. Other pic she need to move her arm and point the the staff, still movement. With stamina 1 she can't perform any action and she can't muster her full power in her attack. And i still don't see anything thought-based, claim a static image as thought-based or no movement attack feat is a baseless claim
4. In order to erase someone with High Godly you need EE along with Conceptual Erasure. Also what concept she can erase, assume she can erase on kind of concept is baseless claim. And Goku still resist EE at soul level so her attack affect soul doesn't mean a thing. Also with stamina = 1 she can't even do a single thing.
5. She can't erase anyone as all of them resist EE at the same level as Goku. And even though Goku open with ki blast which she will regen, and Goku realize it don't work then his second move is seal with Keysword and summon without it, and Chronoa or Demigra will just Time Labyrinth her which she have no answer for a 4D Sealing and 2-A range BFR

As far as i understand, having resistance to hax won't protect you from hax of a higher tier. i mean, literally too strong to resist. Also, DD works on demigra who transcends space and time, right?
And no, silver crystal is 2-C at best. Xeno goku and his summons are massively above baseline 2-A. Silver crystal's defenses ain't protecting usagi.
i agree with point 3. Those images don't prove how that is thought based.

 

[Bernkastelll]

As far as i understand, having resistance to hax won't protect you from hax of a higher tier.

It does, it just doesnt protect from Higher Dimensional Hax, like, a 3-D resistance wont protect from a 4-,D hax

 

[AwkguyDB]

If Sailor doesn’t have the proper EE to even do anything to Goku, she gets put down by DD and Powernull/Seal via KEYSWORD.

without the Keysword Goku can still chop and Incap

 

[Vietthai96]

I re-read Moon profile again, she doesn't have Conceptual Erasure, she just erase Chaos - a NEP being through Void Manip, and Erase an AE type 1 being, and type 1 AE is not baed on concept. So her only chance is landing a Void Manipulation on Goku

 

[AwkguyDB]

Wait wouldn’t Goku get resistance to void manipulation due to this

Time stamp (3:18)

 

[Bernkastelll]

Well, I found this argument in Goku favor somewhere in facebook, I hope it helps u guys here

So we just gonna forget that goku created a miniature solar system from literally nothing but moving his foot. we gonna forget that. Sorry to say but sailor moon really couldn’t. She just gets naked at her fullest power.

 

[Braking]

Guys we cant do xeno goku matches untill we put scans in goku profile

 

[Ss3micah]

I'm up and awake

 

[Ss3micah]

Guys we cant do xeno goku matches untill we put scans in goku profile

Technically this is a re match not a new match or anything

 

[Braking]

also we found some new crap that will make xeno goku more bullshit

 

[Vietthai96]

also we found some new crap that will make xeno goku more bullshit

What, new CRT then