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It's 3 a.m for me so I'm can't stay any longer, that's why i thought I'd remind you .
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(Re-redo) Two Space-Time Shattering Protagonists Go At It
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How so? Ryuko has regenned from people who could oneshot her before, several times as a matter of fact, and it would have to atomize her for her not to regen
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Oh, I see, well he can still make her fall to elimination by land mining her without her noticing
I agree, more points will be needed, so this thread won’t be lazy. And lazy threads seem to be more easily requested to be removed from profiles
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He can one-shot with a x20 Kamehameha or eliminate her by surprising her with ki landmines
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Lol I didn't waste 60 mins explaining my point for you to say stuff like that chief .
Especially when your argument is based on smh her having access to unlimited life fibers despite the fight taking place in the ToP stage and claiming to have better Reactive PL than Goku when she doesn't even have reactive PL on her profile.
And you claimed her being more skillful than goku when goku has better skill feats when he was 12
I was entertaining this conversation but time is up and i need to go .
The votes for goku are all legit for reasons i explained above .
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She still has other methods of getting back on the stage without using flight tho
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The points have already been argued against, and Reactive Evolution is a combination of Adaptation and RPL, if you have both, you have RE. I thought we already talked about that in the previous thread. And there are more agreements towards Ryūko being more skilled because of her being equal to Satsuki, and the only arguments were “Goku also did these at 12”, which he has not defeated let alone faced someone with Instinctive Reactions or 360° perception
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Not trying to be rude btw , just kinda tired
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Goku would hit her before she could perform the methods. After the lindmines, he goes straight for a kick to eliminate someone
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@CR_Catinho I mean if you REALLY want to go that route regarding skill, Ryuko beat the Primordial Life Fiber which has existed for billions of years and has manipulated and defeated hundreds of planets with intelligence similar to Kill La Kill's humanity
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Why cant Ryuko just like...avoid the kick? Also Senketsu can sense energy so wouldnt he be able to sense the mines?
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Because, suddenly falling down can catch you off guard when you don’t expect it.
If both power systems don’t work similarly then verse equalization wouldn’t really work
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Base exhausted goku btw , fighting sm1 atleast 50x stronger than him .
That's all folks
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she’s inexperienced compared to him, and he isn’t that much weaker. Universe 6 Saiyan’s pale in comparison. This is a different situation because Ryūko actually does have the skill advantage for this to not happen to her
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I don’t think prior knowledge means you know what’s gonna happen. Sure, she knows he can do this, but this technique is especially built to be as such, that you don’t know if he’s doing it or not
I’m not so sure. Any examples that they work similarly enough?
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Prior knowledge that he has the ability to do so would give her reason to at least have Senketsu keep his eye on the ground to make sure she doesnt stumble into one, though wouldnt they be set off by her willpower shockwaves?
Basically its life energy that exists in every living being, can be focused and trained to be more powerful, can be used as projectiles, shockwaves, explosions, and can be sensed by others who also use it
Basically its life energy that exists in every living being, can be focused and trained to be more powerful, can be used as projectiles, shockwaves, explosions, and can be sensed by others who also use it
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Son can sense intent, and can also sense if someone else has noticed. So if these land mines were passively shockwaved, they would destroy the ground before Senketsu or Ryūko could even notice them. That would catch her off guard, and Goku goes for a quick attack. Then elimination
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How big is the explosion of the mines exactly? Because like I said with prior knowledge Ryuko wouldnt necessarily be caught off guard by them, plus one kick wouldnt nullify all her methods of returning to the battlefield as Senketsu can act outside of Ryuko's actions so if Goku hits Ryuko off Senketsu can still grapple her back on or prevent her from being knocked off at all
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They aren’t too big, but the point of the land mines are to destroy a large portion of the ground it is planted in. And Son can kick her to accelerate her fall, and this kick would accelerate her fall faster than it did Jiren, because he was a lot more superior to Son
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Goku for reasons above.
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Wasnt Jiren not only severely weakened due to having fought goku, frieza, and 17 but took the combined force of Goku and Frieza to knock him off?
And again, even if Goku kicks her Senketsu can act independently of Ryuko to rescue her
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No one has given reasoning for either of them to win yet
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But anyways I really dont see how the landmines would be that big of a detriment in this fight, not only would Ryuko know to keep off the ground but Senketsu can sense where they are and direct her to avoid them and she can destroy them without getting near them with her shockwaves
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This was in the middle of the tournament, the point where Jiren has not tried hard at all
At this point, either character could win, depending on whether you believe Goku can kick her hard enough that she gets eliminated before she can do anything, or that she can grapple before she gets too out of range of the tournament grounds
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I'd like a scan of these landmines too if you dont mind
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From what I read they have similar AP and goku can amp to kaioken and kamehameha to one shot since he has like 1 day preparation.
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I forgot what episode exactly, but in the ToP he used it against Jiren, and he secretly placed them around Jiren
In the ToP arena, you can’t fly, you’re always on the ground. One little touch of the landmines would set them off, and Goku usually places them near her. So, if she shockwaves the landmines passively, that would mean she would set them off before they even notice it
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Ryuko can do the same except passively
Hell that raises a good point, Ryuko with one day of prep can spend a full 24 hours absorbing life fibers which would put her at an absurd ap advantage
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This version normally fights in the air but flight is banned due to ToP rules but ryuko passively generates shockwaves that would set them off before she gets near them and she passively redirects energy so they wouldnt be much of a problem
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Basically any part of her body can be used as a grappling hook to keep her from falling off plus theres also her energy redirection to take into account here
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Passively shock waving the land mines would set them off, and then Goku would get to go for the elimination kick. And as seen in the clip, Jiren who is superior to Goku, got kicked, and his fall was sped up greatly
Is it in character for her to prep by absorbing life fibers for someone who isn’t even a bad guy?
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I’ve literally been defending both characters against someone who’s against the character. I like both, so I just want this to be the best it could be
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Wtf? She can do that in preparation time that's bullshit. I thought the fight started with both fighters at their keys.
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That’s assuming she can react in time before she reaches the invisible elimination point. Goku’s kick could send her falling incredibly fast, that Jiren barely made it, and Jiren is way faster than Son
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