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Ranking the most powerful characters in Dragon Ball.

TGSCommander said:
1. Zeno

2. Daishinkan

3. Angels

4. Gods of Destruction

5. Zarama

6. Mastered UI Goku

Mastered UI is the form name, indicating the mastery of the form that increases speed, power, and fluency in the technique, not the complete mastery of the technique. Shown at the end of DBS, he can't pull off the technique without the mastered form. Thus, he hasn't mastered the technique. Whis has also told that Beerus hasn't completely mastered it too, but he has a higher mastery level than Goku since he can summon it at any time.

Jiren is assumed as the mortal that is potentially higher than ONE GoD's power.

Beerus fought most of the GoD's with his ultra instinct (which he can summon at anytime), and he has millions of years of techniques at his disposal.
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There's still people who wank Beerus because of muh "million years fighting experience"
 
TGSCommander said:
1. Zeno
2. Daishinkan

3. Angels

4. Gods of Destruction

5. Zarama

6. Mastered UI Goku

Mastered UI is the form name, indicating the mastery of the form that increases speed, power, and fluency in the technique, not the complete mastery of the technique. Shown at the end of DBS, he can't pull off the technique without the mastered form. Thus, he hasn't mastered the technique. Whis has also told that Beerus hasn't completely mastered it too, but he has a higher mastery level than Goku since he can summon it at any time.

Jiren is assumed as the mortal that is potentially higher than ONE GoD's power.

Beerus fought most of the GoD's with his ultra instinct (which he can summon at anytime), and he has millions of years of techniques at his disposal.
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Zarama above angels and Gods? wtf, zarama created super shenron that is zeno level dude.
 
Super Saiyan Blue 1/2/3/4. Full Power Gohan, True Golden Freeza, SSB Goku and Vegeta Pre-ToP (Should all be far above Initial ToP SSG Goku. Gohan was said to be superior to Dyspo in strength).

5. Super Maximum Light Speed Mode Dyspo (Harmed and was defeating True Golden Freeza due to his speed)

6. Android 17 (Forced Goku Pre-ToP to use SSB, and fought him when both were holding back. Harmed Toppo and fought him with help)

7. Powered Up Hit (Easily defeated Dyspo)

8/9. Dyspo (Was initially defeating Hit) and initial ToP SSG Goku since he fought him.

10. Hit (When holding back, fought initial SSBK10x Goku. Defeated Post-Black arc SSB Goku with a single strike)

11. Rage Power Goku Black (Created clones capable of defeating SSB Goku and Vegeta Post 2┬║ training)

12. Post 2┬║ training Vegeta (Initially stomped SSR Goku Black)

13. Goku Black (Initially easily defeated SSB Vegeta at base. Far above before as SSR)

14. Golden Freeza (Slighty above initial SSB Goku)

I think that was everything.

How the heck is 17 weaker than Dyspo and Gohan?
 
He mostly fought Toppo with help, fought SSB when both were holding back, and only damaged Anilaza by attacking using a barrier in his weakness.

Through yeah, now that you said it, he at least shouldn´t be too behind Toppo level.

Also don't quote everything, it's makes a wall of text.
 
Beerus is definitely implied to be on the upper echelon of a Destroyer's power, but not stronger than all of them combined, that's nonsense.
 
My list would be

1.Zeno

2.Daishinkan (and the other 4 top strongest fighters too)

3.Super Shenron

4.The Angels

5.Beerus/Quitela

6.Goku

7.Jiren

8.Other G.O.D.

9.Vegeta

10.Toppo
 
Beerus wanker spotted 0v0

Unless they state Beerus can casually one shot Belmod I am not buying he's above Goku and Jiren
 
Has it been stated Jiren can one shot Belmod ? When they mean stronger, don't automatically assume they mean he 10's to 100's of times stronger than he is.
 
Ah well, Time to revise my list.

Tier 1
Zeno

Super Shenron (W/Wish Granting)

Grand Priest

Tier 2
The Angels

MUI Goku

Full Power Jiren

UI Goku

Beerus

Jiren

Quitela

All other GoDs

TLSSJ2 Kefura

Toppo (He would still be in the same league as them, but keep in mind he's still a novice.)

SSE Vegeta/SSBX20 Goku

Tier 3
Jiren (Suppressed)

Ultra Instinct Goku (First Usage)

Infinite Zamasu

Tier 4
SSB Vegeto

Fusion Zamasu

Times 20 Spirit Bomb

Anilaza

Arale Norimaki (She was much stronger than SSB Goku just by playing around.)

Mystic Gohan (100% Power)

Hit

Android 17

True Golden Freeza

SSB Son Goku

SSB Vegeta

Toppo (IMO from what I've observed Goku's fight with Toppo was fairly easy.)

Golden Freeza (Should be somewhat comparable to Goku.)

SSG Son Goku
 
Vegan Gains said:
Has it been stated Jiren can one shot Belmod ? When they mean stronger, don't automatically assume they mean he 10's to 100's of times stronger than he is.
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FP Jiren was stated to be much stronger than Belmod, same Jiren got completely stomped by UI Goku, then he goes and breaks his limits to overpower Goku "somewhat" before Goku kicked his ass with Nakama power

UI Goku > LB Jiren >>> FP Jiren > Belmod
 
ZERO7772 said:
Vegan Gains said:
Has it been stated Jiren can one shot Belmod ? When they mean stronger, don't automatically assume they mean he 10's to 100's of times stronger than he is.
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FP Jiren was stated to be much stronger than Belmod, same Jiren got completely stomped by UI Goku, then he goes and breaks his limits to overpower Goku "somewhat" before Goku kicked his ass with Nakama power
UI Goku > LB Jiren >>> FP Jiren > Belmod
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False, Jiren was not stated to be "much" stronger than Belmod in the anime/manga, in the anime its implied that he's stronger than Belmod, and outright stated in the manga, in neither scenario the word "much" used. FP Jiren is stronger than Belmod, and him surpassing his limits makes him even more stronger than Belmod. Also, its heavily implied that Beerus and Quitela are the 2 top GOD, or at least top 5. Even more so, in the guides, it states MUI Goku "might" have surpassed Beerus, which is stronger than FP Jiren. Beerus>Belmod.
 
Vegan Gains said:
SNIP
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The only false thing here is you 0v0

Anyway Belmod said that Goku's spirit bomb had him worried but it was piece of cake for Jiren, Whiss also said Jiren is stronger than Belmod and Belmod himself wank Jiren as someone who would never lose to anyone "which would include himself", if you doubt even for sec Belmod can rival Jiren you have not been following the same show as us, don't search for loopholes to support your claim

and nope the Guide was referring to third UIO not MUI because they had the UIO form showed not the MUI one, other Guides stated that MUI is a power beyond that of GoD and Whiss also said before that MUI is level a GoD cannot reach, you are ignoring all of these evidence and only take the claims that suit you

Manga and anime are different canon and Belomd wasn't even trying in that battle royal not to mention in the anime Beerus lost to Belmod rather than Quitela
 
I also hate the whole "Beerus was easily defeating the other GoD's" argument, even though all he did was dodge 3 of their attacks, which confused the ever living shit out of them more than anything.
 
Vegan Gains said:
ZERO7772 said:
Vegan Gains said:
Has it been stated Jiren can one shot Belmod ? When they mean stronger, don't automatically assume they mean he 10's to 100's of times stronger than he is.
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FP Jiren was stated to be much stronger than Belmod, same Jiren got completely stomped by UI Goku, then he goes and breaks his limits to overpower Goku "somewhat" before Goku kicked his ass with Nakama power
UI Goku > LB Jiren >>> FP Jiren > Belmod
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False, Jiren was not stated to be "much" stronger than Belmod in the anime/manga, in the anime its implied that he's stronger than Belmod, and outright stated in the manga, in neither scenario the word "much" used. FP Jiren is stronger than Belmod, and him surpassing his limits makes him even more stronger than Belmod. Also, its heavily implied that Beerus and Quitela are the 2 top GOD, or at least top 5. Even more so, in the guides, it states MUI Goku "might" have surpassed Beerus, which is stronger than FP Jiren. Beerus>Belmod.
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Are you implying that the strength difference between the GoD's is that great?!

I mean, Whis did confirm that Jiren's Power may have surpassed the STATE of the GoD's. Meaning...well...ALL OF THEM, since even though each GoD may be stronger, THEY'RE STILL IN THE SAME STATE!
 
TurboTriangle601 said:
@Antorus
Instinctively dodging attacks still involves power to some extent as seen with MUI Goku being incapable of dodging FP Jiren's attack.
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No shit?

What i'm saying is that U.I Goku's stronger than Beerus. So is Jiren.
 
1 Future Warrior 2

2 Future Warrior

3 Janenba (Shin Budokai)

4 Chronoa

5 Xeno Goku

6 Demigra

7 Time Breaker Bardock

8 Yajirobe

9 Yamcha

10 Nappa
 
Golden Frieza is stronger than SSB Vegeta without rage power. This is a fact as before the ToP it is shown that Frieza is second only to Goku in Team Universe 7. So Pre-SSBE Vegeta < Golden Frieza. I feel too many people downplay Frieza just because Goku and Vegeta got power ups like they always do and 17 survived until the end of the Tournament. Nothing even suggests 17 is above Gohan since all the Jiren stuff were outliers.
 
Actually almost everything in the tournament suggest that 17 > Gohan and most likely Frieza and Vegeta as well.

Gohan failed to damage Base Toppo while 17 is capable of beam struggling with him at full power for a while without getting easily overpowered similar to Weakened SS2 Gohan beam struggled with Super Perfect Cell in DBZ. And we know from the exhibition match that Base Toppo is comparable to SSBKK Goku so this would pretty much make Android 17 borderlining SSBKK in power or on par with it depending on which Kaioken Goku was going to use against Toppo.
 
@Peter I agree.

Hmm...

Using Xenoverse : Future Warrior 2 ( Currently at least comparable to the Angels, fought and defeated someone [ Amped Dabura ] , without the massive amp he got from Fu , in Tokipedia who thought the Angels were ' Mere Ants ' in comparison . Which makes sense considering he was drawing power from them . Whis also was heavily implied to have went at FP during the exchange with Amped Dabura. )

Using Heroes: Young Mechachibakura ( Viewed Xeno SSJ4 Gogeta as a ant )

Though I believe Future Warrior would curb Young Mechachibakura.
 
17 is not above Frieza or Vegeta. I'll take Gohan but not the other two.
 
Why not? Frieza was shown to be equal to if not slightly superior to Pre-ToP SSB Goku and so is Vegeta. While 17 before the start of the tournament fought with SSB Goku while holding back and later on in the tournament he's proven himself to be almost as strong as Base Toppo. And before you say Goku was also holding back. We don't know if he meant holding back as in not using Kaioken or in SSB. But judging from what's shown in the tournament it's liekly the former.
 
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"Prior to Goku refining Super Saiyan Blue Kaio-ken, Goku and Frieza are tied for the No. 1 spot on Team Universe 7 in terms of power."

Base SSB did not get significantly stronger from the time of the Resurrection F saga to the Tournament of Power (pre UI Sign), so I don't know why people treat it like it is. Goku only got stronger through Kaio Ken. Vegeta only got stronger through rage power. Otherwise Golden Frieza = SSB Goku.

Frieza > 17.

This is from the Animedia DBS featurette on September 2017. The Tournament of Power began in July.
 
Feats>Statements

If what's shown in the show contradicts statements than it's not true. And 17 has consistently been shown to be above SSB lvl throughout the tournament after he's gotten serious. Either via outliers (Fighting Jiren) or actual feats (Beam struggling with Base Toppo).
 
Again.

"Base SSB did not get significantly stronger from the time of the Resurrection F saga to the Tournament of Power (pre UI Sign), so I don't know why people treat it like it is. Goku only got stronger through Kaio Ken. Vegeta only got stronger through rage power. Otherwise Golden Frieza = SSB Goku."

So if 17 > Golden Frieza, 17 > SSB Goku which is false.
 
"Base SSB did not get significantly stronger from the time of the Resurrection F saga to the Tournament of Power (pre UI Sign)"

Objectively wrong. Goku went from losing to Hit to matching him by that mini arc despite Hit having adapted to SSJBKKx10, and Vegeta went from getting utterly demolished by Black to demolishing him in return.

Saying Goku and Vegeta did not get significantly stronger between RoF and ToP is blatantly wrong.
 
I technically agree with Ever (o3o)

Anyway, it's because it's wrong. 17 is not stronger than SSB Goku. If they fought and Goku was dead serious, 17 would most certainly lose.
 
17 fought SSB Goku while holding back. And the Tournament of Power shows that he's almost as strong as Base Toppo who Goku wasn't sure if he could beat even with SSBKK during the Exhibition match.
 
"If they fought and Goku was dead serious, 17 would most certainly lose."

What is the evidence doe?

17 managing to put up a fight against Toppo like he did visibly shows that he's at if not slightly above SSJB level.
 
That could very well be outlierish as well. Toppo was tanking stuff from Goku and Vegeta on separate occasions. So what makes you think 17 tangling with him means anything when he tangled with the likes of Jiren as well?
 
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