Puella Magi General Discussion VIII: Why am I even still apart of this?

[Schnee_One]

She would be High 7C from the sheer scaling chain alone

No arguments here

 

[SomebodyData]

Okay, well while we wait, I'll try to find someone who can potentially translate the Elly page/find how we could use the Portable barriers and start work on the Alt. Homura page. Btw, I feel like Homura (Magia Record) should get a new page, feels kinda clustered in the current Homura page.

Wasn't there a website you guys find that helped translations back in the UKG days? Or do you guys know someone?

 

[Schnee_One]

She would be High 7C from the sheer scaling chain alone

No arguments here

^

I'm cool with her being High 7C

 

[SomebodyData]

Okay, but you have seen the updated scaling chain correct? Don't wanna see everything get confusing lol.

Also where are Beast and Velox? Aren't they usually more active in this thread?

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Also where are Beast and Velox?

Dunno about Beast, but Velox is probably salty about the downgrades, so he doesn't participate ovo

 

[SomebodyData]

Ah I see, thx. College is keeping me out of touch here;_;

 

[Schnee_One]

Okay, but you have seen the updated scaling chain correct? Don't wanna see everything get confusing lol.

Also where are Beast and Velox? Aren't they usually more active in this thread?

I think but I'm not 100%

Can I see it again

 

[Schnee_One]

Dunno about Beast, but Velox is probably salty about the downgrades, so he doesn't participate ovo

Thank god

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Thank god

He's arguably fine, but at this point I can say "Good riddance" with a sense of relief

 

[Schnee_One]

BTW Holy Mami should be 7B due to the casualness of her Feat

 

[SomebodyData]

@Schnee

1: City-Block level (Scaling from Homura's durability, not saying this is the exact tier, just that if we don't have anything else to go off of...)

???: Town level (We need to find out where Elly ranks in regards to witches)

4.5: Large Town Level (Mami created a massive explosion in 'Rebellion')

6: Island level (Magia Record Madoka, however with the gap we're seeing, I'm starting to have doubts. Could be possible that she gained the karmic power from other timelines due to Alt. Homura appearing in Magia Record.)

Holy Mami, Amped Yachiyo, possibly Holy Alina, and Campanella: Small City level+ (Waiting on calcs)

Need to note that Oktavia has a Portable feat that could boost them to Town level and since Kyoko scales directly, it would still work.

@Schnee and Rebuble Errr, did something happen between you guys and Velox?

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

@Schnee and Rebuble Errr, did something happen between you guys and Velox?

Not really, it's just that his behavior can be irritating at times.

 

[The_Causality]

Where is the feat for Small City+ Holy Mami and co?

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Where is the feat for Small City+ Holy Mami and co?

It's the same feat she scales to right now, but due to the latest storm revisions it is only Low 7-B+.

 

[The_Causality]

Well, i can try to calc with another method but i'm not sure if it will give better result.

 

[The_Causality]

Well, with the measure of the currents calc, i found Island level.

Dunno if it's consistent or not.

 

[SomebodyData]

You sure you're using the right formula? We now use C.A.P.E. if I remember correctly.

 

[The_Causality]

Well my method isn't really related on Cloud itself, but the condensation method which include the change of temperature ect..., some calc used this method like for Hitsyugaya or Yamai

 

[Schnee_One]

Oh I was remembering the wrong chain

Still a massive difference, so I support LT nonetheless

 

[SomebodyData]

@The Causality Hmm, if you can release that in a blog to be checked, then perhaps it could work. It would only work for Holy Mami tho, the other Low 7-B+ feat would require normal C.A.P.E.

@Schnee okay, I schnee.

@Everyone Assuming my deductions were correct:

Itlzi's barrier: <2000 meters high. (Note: Upon rewatching, it seems likely that its actually Quitterie's barrier instead, given Itlzi is supposed to be the Walpurgis Nacht of another world, who doesn't have a barrier either.)

Candeloro's barrier: <3000 meters high assuming nimbostratus clouds. ~4,000m average (2000-6000) if we assume altostratus background.

Oktavia: Guessing nimbus clouds (given how dark the clouds are) which are typically 3000 meters (2000-4000) in the air.

 

[The_Causality]

@Somebody Okok i made it soon (I've exam so i can't do it immediatly sadly)

 

[Schnee_One]

You did https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:SomebodyData/PMMM-_Mami's_Tiro_Finale_Recalc

^BTW First or Second?

 

[SomebodyData]

Not sure, idk if either formula is still used.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Oi, you accused me wrong lmao XD

Eh, i'm supporting it right now, reason i didn't active too much because i'm busy iirc.

Still hoping for Low 7-B so Esdeath vs Mami is thing again :v

 

[Schnee_One]

Judging by SDs calc, assuming either method isn't incorrect it seems High 7C is most likely

Edit: Oh right, LoC Sayaka's tier?

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Well, i don't mind that.

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Good, more HDN vs PMMM threads ovo

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

More like Genki torture threads :v

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

More like Genki torture threads :v

Do I look like I would take Kal's job away from him?

 

[Kaltias]

I'm pretty sure that for "Huge fireball that destroys everything" kind of explosion we do use the nuke calculator, we simply halve the result if it isn't an actual nuke.

@Gar

LoC Sayaka scales above Mami

@SD

Not sure what's weird about third timeline Madoka being 6-C, considering that she goes to tier 5 one loop later

 

[Schnee_One]

I thought we didn't know whether LoC Sayaka scaled above her?

That's why she was 7B to High 7A while Mami was just 7A.

Has our scaling changes

 

[Kaltias]

Well, the highball does.

Her lowball tier will probably be whatever Oktavia's barrier ends up being

 

[SomebodyData]

@Kal well what's weird is that third timeline Madoka is rated a 6, meaning the gap between 6 and 4.5 (Mami) would be pretty huge in comparison to the rest of the tiering system.

if what you said about the fireball is the case, I'd still have to recalc again due to some pixel scaling issues present in the original calc.

 

[Kaltias]

I mean, 9 (?) is Country level so it isn't like it doesn't start skyrocketing after a while.

Plus the system isn't linear to begin with

 

[SomebodyData]

True, but in comparison to the rest that we know of, its a really weird gap. But for now, its probably best to establish the rest of the tiering system first.

Also do you remember that one site that translated scans (Like with UKG and Walpurgis)? Would be useful for Elly.

 

[Kaltias]

I don't remember it but i think i know where i can find it

 

[Kaltias]

http://www.romajidesu.com/

This one i think

 

[SomebodyData]

Alright, I'll upload the Elly stuff in a few minutes, wish me luck.

 

[Kaltias]

I wish you good luck

 

[SomebodyData]

Welp, it's not that one.

I'mma just look through the previous threads to see if I can find it.