Post-Negative Karma Ball Goku vs God Mission Broly (BROLY WON!)

[JohnCenaNation]

Synopsis: Man doesn't it feel upsetting of how neither Goku nor Broly got to have their rematch after the first Broly film in Dragon Ball Z? Fortunately for us, we can do that rematch right here and right now! What if we take Goku at his strongest 2-C key versus Broly at his strongest 2-C key? How will the fight go? We can test that theory right here and right now!

Super Full Power Saiyan 4 Present Son Goku Sr. vs Legendary Super Saiyan 4 Full Power Present Broly​

Rules​

• Links to characters: Present Son Goku Sr., Present Broly
• Mindsets: Bloodlusted
• Prep or no prep: 1 year
• Knowledge: Yes
• Gear: Everything
• Win Conditions: Death

Location​

Anywhere in Ganymede the largest moon in our universe, now let the battle between the strongest non-fused Saiyans begin!

Carrot: 3 ( @omegabronic , @Mickey1940 , @Fezzih_007 )
Broccoli: 8 ( @Vietthai96 , @Sir_Marvulous , @WarriorofMite , @Dominodalek , @Ottavio_Merluzzo , @Quantu , @Dagoth_OwO , @Inksaness )
Saying: 0

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

It's either Broly stomps because he scales to way higher than the "base" macrocosm GT Ssj4 scales to, or Ssj4 Goku stomps because Broly barely scales to above 1/10th the macrocosm.

No in between here.

 

[JohnCenaNation]

It's either Broly stomps because he scales to way higher than the "base" macrocosm GT Ssj4 scales to, or Ssj4 Goku stomps because Broly barely scales to above 1/10th the macrocosm.

No in between here.

So I just created an epic never seen before inverse Dragon Ball battle thread only to be stopped by cosmology, oh hell naw to the no no no.

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Does GT Goku at least solo Super?

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Does GT Goku at least solo Super?

Weaker than Post BoG Base Goku

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Weaker than Post BoG Base Goku

Damn, the worse transformation as well

 

[JohnCenaNation]

Weaker than Post BoG Base Goku

What about this Broly? How far does he go in DBS assuming we use his strongest 2-C key?

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

What about this Broly? How far does he go in DBS assuming we use his strongest 2-C key?

I'm not sure. Probably doesn't go past against Resurrection of F.

 

[Vietthai96]

Dark Demon Realm Mission Broly scale way higher than GT Goku, iirc even at Jaaku Mission, Black Smoke Dragon when formed casually warp the entire macrocosm, Broly scale to that and he fought both Heroes version of GT Goku and GT Vegeta, Dark Demon Realm Mission is like 2 missions later which obviously he way stronger. Not only that but also his Zenkai and Accelerated Development is extremely busted which allow him to quickly goes up to Fusion level. Also he has Dura Neg skill back at Original Mission

This is a stomp

 

[JohnCenaNation]

Dark Demon Realm Mission Broly scale way higher than GT Goku, iirc even at Jaaku Mission, Black Smoke Dragon when formed casually warp the entire macrocosm, Broly scale to that and he fought both Heroes version of GT Goku and GT Vegeta, Dark Demon Realm Mission is like 2 missions later which obviously he way stronger. Not only that but also his Zenkai and Accelerated Development is extremely busted which allow him to quickly goes up to Fusion level. Also he has Dura Neg skill back at Original Mission

This is a stomp

Would the fight be more fair if I make this God Mission Broly?

 

[Vietthai96]

Would the fight be more fair if I make this God Mission Broly?

no, God Mission Broly is 3-B, Post-Negative Karma Ball Goku is 2-C in base bruhh

 

[JohnCenaNation]

no, God Mission Broly is 3-B, Post-Negative Karma Ball Goku is 2-C in base bruhh

Where did you get the 3-B from? His profile only mentioned 2-C for his God Mission key lol.

 

[Omegabronic]

Weaker than Post BoG Base Goku

far stronger acctually

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

far stronger acctually

Nah. This is Full Power Ssj4 Goku, the one that simply scales to Omega's feat, which is baseline macrocosm. Literally same level as SsjGod Goku from BoG, where Goku then went to surpass that in base.

 

[Omegabronic]

Nah. This is Full Power Ssj4 Goku, the one that simply scales to Omega's feat, which is baseline macrocosm. Literally same level as SsjGod Goku from BoG, where Goku then went to surpass that in base.

this is post karma ball goku, who in base form is stronger than ssj4 gogeta, and then we can apply the multipliers and power boosts, he is a lot stronger than BoG goku

 

[Vietthai96]

Where did you get the 3-B from? His profile only mentioned 2-C for his God Mission key lol.

oh yeah, forget what i said lol, didn't get enough sleep

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

this is post karma ball goku, who in base form is stronger than ssj4 gogeta, and then we can apply the multipliers and power boosts, he is a lot stronger than BoG goku

got accustomed not using that version for debates because it hsd unknown for such a long time

Fair enough then.

 

[JohnCenaNation]

Alright folks! We have delayed this battle thread just long enough! So enough DBGT Goku vs DBS Goku discussions and let's just focus on this fight at hand!

 

[JohnCenaNation]

got accustomed not using that version for debates because it hsd unknown for such a long time

Fair enough then.

I am really glad this Goku got a key, now I can finally use him in battle threads.

 

[Fezzih_007]

Broly i guess, since his accelerated development should better than Goku, since he is the legendary super sayian.

 

[JohnCenaNation]

Broly i guess, since his accelerated development should better than Goku, since he is the legendary super sayian.

About time! So I take it that you vote for Broly?

 

[Fezzih_007]

About time! So I take it that you vote for Broly?

Yep.

 

[Omegabronic]

what is the ap difference between both?

 

[JohnCenaNation]

Yep.

Carrot: 0
Broccoli: 1 (Fezzih_007)
Saying: 0

 

[Fezzih_007]

what is the ap difference between both?

Well, the page said he One-Shot Darkness Towa, so a lot?

 

[JohnCenaNation]

Well, the page said he One-Shot Darkness Towa, so a lot?

How strong is Dark Towa? She doesn't even have a key lol! Towa's profile needs a lot of fixing.

 

[Fezzih_007]

I don't know

 

[Omegabronic]

Well, the page said he One-Shot Darkness Towa, so a lot?

gogeta ssj4 could also one shot omega shenron, and goku scales higher than that in this key

 

[Fezzih_007]

So does broly, but i don't know how strong is Dark Towa since her page doens't say.

 

[Omegabronic]

So does broly, but i don't know how strong is Dark Towa since her page doens't say.

yeah but by how much? because depending on this will decide if goku ap stomp or not

 

[Fezzih_007]

yeah but by how much? because depending on this will decide if goku ap stomp or not

Ok, so the page says he can fight both SSJ4 Goku, SSJ4 Vegeta and Pikkon at the same time, and then says much stronger and can one shot dark Towa, and then much stronger than before again, so this mean he atleast way, way higher than baseline, but i still don't know how much because Dark Towa don't have a Key.

 

[JohnCenaNation]

Yo can any Dragon Ball expert help out with the scaling? Because this is getting ridiculous now.

 

[Fezzih_007]

I enter this site like a week ago, so i don't know anyone to tag.

 

[JohnCenaNation]

B
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[JohnCenaNation]

Anyone else?

 

[JohnCenaNation]

Hello did all of the Dragon Ball fanbase suddenly just died in this website?

 

[Fezzih_007]

Well, we don't know each one have the better Ap, so...

 

[Omegabronic]

i will asume broly is above baseline unknowingly higher, if so, goku just murders with higher than 50x ap advantage with multipliers, since he also massively upscales above 3 universes and then his ssj4 would be far higher than his 50x ssj1 boost

seems like a stomp ngl

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

i will asume broly is above baseline unknowingly higher,

Omega = Ssj4 Goku = Ssj4 Vegeta = Super Pikkon << Jaakku Mission Ssj4 Broly <<< God Mission Base Broly <<<<<< Dark Towa <<< God Mission Ssj4 Broly

This is what I'm getting from the profiles.

Edit: pre-Dark Amp Base Broly being superior to God Mission Ssj4 Broly, applying then the entire multiplier bs up to Ssj4

 

[Omegabronic]

Omega = Ssj4 Goku = Ssj4 Vegeta = Super Pikkon << Jaakku Mission Ssj4 Broly <<< God Mission Base Broly <<<<<< Dark Towa <<< God Mission Ssj4 Broly

This is what I'm getting from the profiles.

so he is also massively stronger but unknowingly so, well goku would be higher since he has a big multiplier, this seems like a ap stomp now