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Why not solid 2-A
Wally is kinda downplayed here.
Also Speed Force is above the Bleed
Wally is kinda downplayed here.
Also Speed Force is above the Bleed
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Post-Crisis Wally West 2-A CRT
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No actually 2-A all the time would actually be an outlier.
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Excuse me, I might have misunderstood your argument then.
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Lightspeed is slower than Wally, got a bit faster, if not necessarily as fast as Wally, and portrayed the experience as controlling the Speed Force. She wasn't faster or had more control over the Speed Force than Wally.
Also as said before, I'm just pointing out some individual things, not disagreeing with everything, I do hope we may get crazy stats out of the stuff shown above.
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Hah. Even Antvasima himself said we should upgrade Wally to 2-A at some point. I support this btw
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Well, maybe if DC wasn't downplayed
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They were stomped prior to Flash sharing his energy with them. And AM won cause his power was replenished by the antimatter cannon wally couldn't destroy due to vibrating differently. Destroying his armor is 2-A anyway
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Anyway, this should be a separate key with Wally channelling the entire speed force. Base Wally wouldn't scale.
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I agree with this
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idk whats this sites problem with labeling everything as an outlier or a range feat
also I agree with 2-a wally ofc
also I agree with 2-a wally ofc
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How?
Though giving Wally a 2-A for channeling the full energy of the Speed Force is something I guess. Its not one time and something he can do with the right mindset.
Though its very, very, very rare for him to ever get to that point.
Because the vast majority of them are either non-feats being promoted as feats or contradicts characters that have histories older than almost everyone using this site.
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******* THANK YOU
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Mike, don't mean to be disrespectful but 85% (I went back to actually check) of your posts have been unnecessary.
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Stop derailing. This is your third and final warning.
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Fine
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Again, his entire body was destroyed and he was still alive only because of the antimatter canon
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I agree with any upgrades for Wally.
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So a separate key saying 2c and 2-a(but only in his full power or full power of the speed force) although we can argue the speed force his higher I personally think it should be left for another discussion.
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why would it be "possibly" 2-a when he performed blatant 2-a feats?
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Again, Wally is only 2-A when using full speed force.
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So should this be added.
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The thread was made what, yesterday? And there are still some people who disagree. It's likely too soon for that.
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If it is 5-D shouldn't the upgrade be Low 1-C?
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Yeah like the fact that the Speed Force has been stated to be above the Bleed which is 5-D even tho there are infinite dimensions proves Wally shall at least be Low 1-C if not High 1-B but ONLY if he uses the Speed Force energy
With the Speed Force energy either Low 1-C at a 6th Dimensional level or 1-B/High 1-B works tho I won't mind Low 1-C for now.
Himself I can agree with 2-A at best
With the Speed Force energy either Low 1-C at a 6th Dimensional level or 1-B/High 1-B works tho I won't mind Low 1-C for now.
Himself I can agree with 2-A at best
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Tbh, this makes sense. Again, only when Wally uses full speed force. Also, this way we can make Wally vs Archie Sonic thread xDYeah like the fact that the Speed Force has been stated to be above the Bleed which is 5-D even tho there are infinite dimensions proves Wally shall at least be Low 1-C if not High 1-B but ONLY if he uses the Speed Force energy
With the Speed Force energy either Low 1-C at a 6th Dimensional level or 1-B/High 1-B works tho I won't mind Low 1-C for now.
Himself I can agree with 2-A at best
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Continued derailing despite warnings
Yeah with the Speed Force he can become either Low Complex Multi at a 6th Dimensional or Hyper-High Hyper due to how DC is with The Bleed.
Also Wally godstomps Sonic since he would be 6D
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That was an issue on my end. I thought AM was changed to 2-C for some reason rather than 2-A at base.
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Yeah I mean full speed force is tier 1, while Wally only used 2-A amounts of it’s energy. So the term “with full Speed Force” would be misleading, at peak/when emotional sounds better.
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Frankly I think using relativistic KE for the infinite mass punch isn't usable, since the speed of light in DC is generally treated as immeasurable and way above the characters like superman and diana who regularly display MFTL+ feats
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SoL and FTL are treated as different concepts in DC. It takes as much effort for Superman to maintain speed right under light as it does for him to break lightspeed.
The IMP doing what it does makes sense considering the above. The main issue would be hitting people but that's another topic in general.
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Wouldn't it technically be at least 3-A just by having "infinite mass"?
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Three scans from different issues, and taken out of context, and yes the dimensions referred to here is not 'dimensionality" but 'space'.Yeah like the fact that the Speed Force has been stated to be above the Bleed which is 5-D even tho there are infinite dimensions proves Wally shall at least be Low 1-C if not High 1-B but ONLY if he uses the Speed Force energy
With the Speed Force energy either Low 1-C at a 6th Dimensional level or 1-B/High 1-B works tho I won't mind Low 1-C for now.
Himself I can agree with 2-A at best
Even if you get and say yes they are dimensionality you will have to prove they are higher infinities before you can even get a baseline 1-B rating.
And btw innumerable is not treated as infinite, at least not on this wiki.
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