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Post-Crisis Wally West 2-A CRT

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The less support the more outlierish it becomes, show us what actually makes the speedforce 2-A instead of only using a supporting feat that doesn't even support it.

Agree on a new key or potentially 2-A via absorbing speedforce
What do you mean. It's straight forward. He uses the speed force full power. And the speed force is 2-a. He also other feats like inflicting a large amount of damage on anti monitor, wally and barry race almost destroying the multiverse etc. Dc has constantly shown this type of feats when wally is hat full power.
 
Superman Post-Flashpoint's key is only 2-A via massive amounts of prep time and outside help he doesn't normally have access to, can the same thing be said here?
 
The less support the more outlierish it becomes, show us what actually makes the speedforce 2-A instead of only using a supporting feat that doesn't even support it.
Speed Force encompass everything until it reaches to the sphere of gods
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Superman Post-Flashpoint's key is only 2-A via massive amounts of prep time and outside help he doesn't normally have access to, can the same thing be said here?
He still has another key. What of superman prime one million he has both a 4-b key and 2-a key.
 
Superman Post-Flashpoint's key is only 2-A via massive amounts of prep time and outside help he doesn't normally have access to, can the same thing be said here?
I don't see why being amped by something can't give a tier, characters usually have tiers due it
 
Plus the amp comes from him using the full power of the speed force which is his source of power. It not like an external source like venom in king in black.
 
Just saw the anti monitor feat, he was being depowered while flash needed help with everyone using the speeforce and that was after monitor was hit pretty hard by the lady depowering him, this feat is iffy to me.
He was still 2-a will being depowered.
 
The Speed Force is something all Speedsters DC can use, Wally included. No different than Hal Jordan being powered by Ion like the other Lantern Corps.
The sun is something Superman has access to by existing on Earth, being amped by multiple shouldn't grant a new key.
 
Superman and Flash's case is they're both powered by energy sources they can use, the difference in power they get is just dependent on how much they get.
 
You can argue a case for Wally since the logic here should be the same as Superman in essence. Whether or not it will be accepted is up in the air. Or if another instance when something like this happens shows an inconsistency.
 
Sounds like a comparable case to Sonic the Hedgehog only being 2-C when using the full power of his Chaos Emeralds or Hank Pym being Low 1-C at maximum size with his Pym Particles, so I see no reason not to give them a key reflecting the full power of the Speed Force.
 
You can argue a case for Wally since the logic here should be the same as Superman in essence. Whether or not it will be accepted is up in the air. Or if another instance when something like this happens shows an inconsistency.
Dc has made it significantly clear about the difference between normal wally and when he goes all out. So it isn't inconsistent cause does affect his direct key. It just gives him another key for when he goes all out.
 
And then got his ass handed to him
Wally was the only one who didn't get bodied by Anti-Monitor when they had to round 2 him.
While he was running with him and Barry
So what?
Just EE resistance
I...don't really need to show why surviving a 2-A blast is just EE resistance, even if the blast includes EE.
This is, a blatantly huge outlier
[Insert Cal hating outlier argument here]
 
Affecting the multiverse.(the flash 2016 issue #49.)
This is more range than anything, the part there that makes people think it's 2-A it's what Cyborg said, and that's not 2-A. The fabric of the multiverse=/=the multiverse (at least not necessarily), and playing havoc=/=damage in a way that=to destroy it all. Some places got messed up, energy was all over the place and they were going to destroy the planet, and that's it, it wasn't the end of the multiverse, the end of the multiverse wasn't going to come, universes didn't blow up and nor did planets, at least not Earth yet. And while this likely gave them some boost, that's not the same as to say that the boost it's=to all the mess they were creating put into them, the environmental destruction was outside of them.
 
Yeah, I recall it mentioning that Flash has consistent range feats, but anything higher than High 3-A which is via a literal suicide attack by the way is pretty much wanking Flash. And even said High 3-A suicide attack is 100% hypothetical if Wally West can even pull it off.
 
"Energy creating havoc with the very fabric of the multiverse" is undeniably multiverse level and you have to do hard mental gymnastics to say otherwise.
 
This is more range than anything, the part there that makes people think it's 2-A it's what Cyborg said, and that's not 2-A. The fabric of the multiverse=/=the multiverse (at least not necessarily), and playing havoc=/=damage in a way that=to destroy it all. Some places got messed up, energy was all over the place and they were going to destroy the planet, and that's it, it wasn't the end of the multiverse, the end of the multiverse wasn't going to come, universes didn't blow up and nor did planets, at least not Earth yet. And while this likely gave them some boost, that's not the same as to say that the boost it's=to all the mess they were creating put into them, the environmental destruction was outside of them.
Also, I'm curious, what do people think it's going to happen after they destroy Earth? Would the multiverse then inevitably follow? Wouldn't it make more sense if the whole thing just stopped because they stopped, thereby meaning that they weren't throwing around 2-A destructive power at the multiverse?
 
"Energy creating havoc with the very fabric of the multiverse" is undeniably multiverse level and you have to do hard mental gymnastics to say otherwise.
Not very hard, "The fabric of the multiverse=/=the multiverse (at least not necessarily), and playing havoc=/=damage in a way that=to destroy it all."

I already asked and had the tiering point out what does it mean by "significantly affect" giving a tier, havoc alone doesn't cut it if it's not gonna destroy the multiverse. And unless your English can't use "the very fabric of" something to not refer to the whole thing but in general or part of it with relevance then you should be able to see why it's wrong when it's unproven that the whole multivese was affected. If you want to have "the very fabric of" something always mean the whole thing, as I believe you have before, then you can make a CRT or talk about it to other staff as I did, maybe the tiering pointing it out would be useful.

I take this as basic, not mental gymnastics.
 
Yeah, I recall it mentioning that Flash has consistent range feats, but anything higher than High 3-A which is via a literal suicide attack by the way is pretty much wanking Flash. And even said High 3-A suicide attack is 100% hypothetical if Wally West can even pull it off


Explain this then huh, this seems like it affected the Multiverse

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Scales to Eobard who can knock out Super Woman who is a clone to Wonder Women

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Can easily knock Hal Jordan with ease
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Wanking Flash huh?

This sounds like some sort of bias, not accusing but this sounds like it.
 
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