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Possible NNT Upgrades?

ReaperJ

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In the latest chapter we see Estarossa summon a Hound made of darkness' flames. We can clearly see that the instant the Hound's leg touches the ground "smoke" starts to come out but the thing is that's vapour. The Hound was starting vaporize the ground which brings me to my point. The Danafor's vaporization value was rejected due to not enough proof of vaporization and that this shown below could've simply been smoke https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6tqmXjft...4ji4JI3m4iScPuV2CiN2-RwDmlK72ZgCCo/s0/018.png https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-r_uQEi84...t2BGdxgkY-CWYw6Lt51stIecfDhdNAgCCo/s0/020.png http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-b3k2BPOV0...rlRUnUuUg5c0My0bs8NlqmsW2NQzQTgCCo/s0/021.png But if you notice carefully you can see that they're of the same sort as the ones produced by Estarossa's flames simply on a larger scale. Doesnt this support the Danafor's "smoke" being actual vapour? https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_rmvltwK...OOASnweU4wKdYCItX_U9_1Ln-rJQCHMYCw/s0/008.png
 
What would this change with the obliteration of Danafor? Anyways you can contact calc group members and other nnt experts to comment here. Tho I agree with you
 
Thanks,Well having power levels makes it easier too since apparently Meliodas had a PL of 56K.I informed some people of this thread hopefully it gets some attention
 
I'm not sure if i can accept this higher end since Base Chandler who should be comparable or superior in power to the Meliodas that did this feat did the High 6-C meteor attack after his power was boosted by the night, after the attack he said that this more of half of this power was wasted with the attack.
 
I checked the chapters with Chandler's fight and he never said he used more than half his power in that attack. He even commented on how those attacks shouldn't have drained his magic. Than he said that Gowther and King's combination attack dealt damage to his spirit which was basically a debuff that caused his magic to be lowered by more than half.
 
Before the fight Cusack also commented on how the goddess seal significantly weakened them. And we don't know how much the night actually boost a demons power.
 
I think that statement supports the calc, I think I recall reading that part and was like " this is him weakened?" I'm not sure if they ever regained their full power back, it took the commandments awhile to do that, and this seal I believe was much stronger. So even now they are probably not at 100%.
 
Well in chapter 257 Cusack said the Goddess seal is almost removed so even the Base Chandler and Base Cusack that have been compared to Zeldris might still be a bit stronger.
 
There is the assumption that 52K Meliodas flames are capable of vaporization since they are similar to Estarossa, who is stronger than the latter.

Anyway it seems a big boost for me to really agree since:

High 7-A -> High 6-C.

6-C -> Low 6-B+.

High 6-C -> 6-B.
 
Chandler brought down meteor works in celebration of the comeback of his student he was happy and cheering about his students return ,if anything the attack was nothing but casual their is nothing to suggest otherwise if there is i'd like to see that. To my understanding you are assuming it took him effort because he was amped by the night as if he did that in order to cast meteor works which he didnt https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-vyX8Gd5H...NNDLUYkH128ows6U15u6tAW0HhngCHMYCw/s0/018.png
 
Chandler's magic was depleted by more than half thanks to Gowther and King's combo attack, not because he used his spell. He said his spirit had been damaged and that his spells shouldn't have used up so much power if he had been normal. https://imgur.com/a/GGr74

Plus Chandler was probably low on magic to begin with, having just come through the Goddess Seal. He doesn't contradict the upgrade.

Anyways I agree with the upgrade, I've thought for a while now that NNT had too strict standards placed on it while Naruto's Bijuu got vaporization just because a cloud was drawn in a panel.
 
melascula high 6-C with black matter manipulation

, sariel low 6-B

Code: 
tarmiel low 6-B
Galan high 6-C up to Likely low 6-B

Zeldris at least low 6-B

Estarossa at least low 6-B

Reuduciel at least low 6-B

Elizabeth low 6-B

Chandler low 6-B, at least low 6-B

Meliodas high 6-C ( 30k), low 6-B, at least low 6-B, and 6-B

Monspiete low 6-B

Derrière low 6-B

Arthur likely low 6-B

King likely low 6-B

Gloxinia low 6-B

Dolor low 6-B
 
I honestly dont know about Elizabeth being Low 6-B cause if yur talking bout the one where she threw Estarossa away then she was able to do that b/c his intention was to talk to her w/out even being serious but she attacked him anyways and he was still wasn't retaliating. Estarossa also didnt have a scratch on him either so in all honesty i feel like she should be like High 6-C or At Least High 6-C
 
You have to consider many things, she was confident she can take on the Ten Commandments, she is highly respected by sariel and tarmiel, like if you notice their dialogues they talk to her as if she is some sort of superior, ( which is what I added), also she did send him a far distance away before he could successfully counter, and she managed to injure deriere. Also! Sariel and tarmiel was surprised Estarossa didn't get hurt after taking her arc, they did " top demon or not" implying she posses great threat to all of them. Oh and she had no intention of fighting Estarossa, just wanted him gone. That's why Estarossa should be at least and she solid low 6-B, I'm not implying she's stronger for sending him away, but it's a feat. Oh! And she protected derrière of all people lol. When you look at everything, she is likely above the commandments that aren't Estarossa, zel, and Mel.
 
Twisted Little Raven said:
You have to consider many things, she was confident she can take on the Ten Commandments, she is highly respected by sariel and tarmiel, like if you notice their dialogues they talk to her as if she is some sort of superior, ( which is what I added), also she did send him a far distance away before he could successfully counter, and she managed to injure deriere. Also! Sariel and tarmiel was surprised Estarossa didn't get hurt after taking her arc, they did " top demon or not" implying she posses great threat to all of them. Oh and she had no intention of fighting Estarossa, just wanted him gone. That's why Estarossa should be at least and she solid low 6-B, I'm not implying she's stronger for sending him away, but it's a feat. Oh! And she protected derrière of all people lol. When you look at everything, she is likely above the commandments that aren't Estarossa, zel, and Mel.
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I would say that she is above Galan & Melascula but everyone else i dont think she's stronger or even on par w/ them. Its true that she was able to blow Deriere arm but she ddint even look like she was in pain, its like how SSB Vegeta was beating the crap out of Black but there wasnt a sign of him looking hurt. U did bring up some good points so as i though about it i think that she should be Likely Low 6-B and Galan should be At Least High 6-C, possibly Low 6-B
 
Well he cut tarmiel in two, so for anyone that scales to 40k galan I think they should get likely low 6-B, tarmiel and sariel are > mon and derrière. But he isn't on their level, but I think At least high 6-C, likely low 6-B should be fine. Right now I put him at likey 6-C, instead of a solid 6-C.
 
Twisted Little Raven said:
Well he cut tarmiel in two, so for anyone that scales to 40k galan I think they should get likely low 6-B, tarmiel and sariel are > mon and derrière. But he isn't on their level, but I think At least high 6-C, likely low 6-B should be fine. Right now I put him at likey 6-C, instead of a solid 6-C.
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Sorry i meant to put him as a At Least High 6-C, possibly Low 6-B cause of yur statements
 
Twisted Little Raven said:
Oh ok yea you're fine
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Alright so anyone thats close w/ Galan 40K should be At Least High 6-C, Possibly Low 6-B, Anyone around Elizabeth (stronger then Galan) should be At Least High 6-C, Likely Low 6-B or just Likely Low 6-B, anyone around Estrarossa level should be Low 6-B, anyone thats stronger than Estrarossa (weaker then Meliodas) is At Least Low 6-B, and Meliodas could either be (1). At Least Low 6-B+, (2). At Least Low 6-B, Possibly/Likely 6-B or just plain 6-B.
 
Not really sure about this since he uses Darkness pillar rather than Hellblaze to do so, but I personally don't mind the upgrades, they seem not too extremely inconsistent with a few other calcs of this league. Like an amped Zeldris withstanding an explosion that was calced to be at this level (i'll find it later).

It's extremely high end, so i agree with the scaled characters, with the possible exception of normal Galand, though i think he'd definitley scale.
 
Found the calc, Kep says it's usable. It would also scale to specifically Shel and Zel, though the latter likely was weakened by the attack since it's holy magic.
 
I still think eliz should be low 6-B, since she is praised so Much by the 4 AA. Them being surprised about Estarossa being unhurt, and mentioning it was weird for anyone to come out unscathed from her arc. I think that's convincing to me, they at least consider her as an equal and possibly superior and they are above mon and derrière
 
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