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NNT AP Revision
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Ain't Hawk Wild's little brother? Wouldn't that make him a Purgatory beast, albeit a very weak one?
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Unlike his brother who lived in and adapted to purgatory, hawk lived outside of it
Though we do see him surviving purgatory whereas ban was consistently vaporized
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Firstly, you could say the same thing about surviving Guila.
Secondly, you can only push gag character shit so far before it starts to become consistent. Hawk basically exists to be a gag, as well.
Lastly, he still more often doesn't take hit from characters below Guila's level, whether it's a gag or not.
Gil wasn't even trying, that's the point. Plus someone weaker than Gil even more casually knocked him out. And it still shows that he's less durable than Elizabeth.
Given how consistently he's not killed by the heat from attacks that can harm him via kinetic energy, like explosions (where around half the energy is heat already), it's arguably still equal to his durability.
Electricity = durability. Resisting it like Meliodas does just refers to some of the effects, like loss of muscular control.
Also, what suggests Elizabeth is more resistant than Hawk?
His Sky Manta transformation, not his base, gets fried by that magician bloke while he's not really even trying that hard.
These guys are a league above grays and reds, even while amped, but they're overall far below the Sins.
This is definitely, 100% resistance. Even the creatures inside of Purgatory can easily get one-shot by Ban well before he adapted. Plus Cath, who got mutilated by Cusack, was a Purgatory creature.
I kind of also don't even see how this supports the point because he'd need far higher durability than currently to even survive this.
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So if heat should define durability him surviving purgatory that’s hot af should too no?
So he survived a possibly casual Guila that was kinda bloodlusted without taking permanent damage
Gilthunder that was casual without taking permanent damage at all
Purgatory He survived thousands of years inside it
got gag/joke damage multiple times like a twig stuck in his ass that made him bleed (We don’t even see the wound the panels after iirc suggesting it’s just humour) and i dont think we take humouristic feats as evidence like Bulma throwing hands at goku and bruising him or Nami beating the shit out of Sanji and Luffy at the same time
And that magician was upset by Hawk’s bs i don’t think he was casual at all
Also as explained by Merlin magic or power in general = Resistance meaning Elisabeth’s dormant power probably made her more resistant to Gil’s magic than base Hawk
His scaling Is heavily inconsistant and He seems like a glasscanon with great enough stamina to just keep fighting or running despite heavy injuries so i think we better downgrade his durability since Guila’s thing is a bit mid and upgrade his stamina
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How hot is Purgatory, though? Merlin's dad survived, and Ban wasn't evaporated even after just getting in.
I suppose that's fair. But, like I said, pretty much everything he does is a gag.
I'd argue it's casual, given that it was just a tap of his staff and he says 'play time is over' afterwards. But we can agree to disagree here.
Where? Plus, that wouldn't even suggest Elizabeth's powers were activating.
Seems good.
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Ban got burned to ashes iirc Merlin’s Dad has great elemental resistances since He Is mainly magic based
let’s just lowball him to be sure i don’t have the Time to debate about Hawk especially when we agree to the fact that he is Massively inconsistant
daddy hawk better Go get some feats in 4kota
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To just lowball it or even put it at unknown
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So Is everything done after Hawk ?
If so could you basically recap shortly everything ? So we can say if we agree to the entirety of the changes
If so could you basically recap shortly everything ? So we can say if we agree to the entirety of the changes
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Bump (Messi Is the goat btw)
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I agree with the new scalings
Also what about creating a comp profile for the Dawn Roar it would be more interesting and a compilation of ALL their abilities and stats in a single page
We could do the same With low tier Demons like Blue, Ochre etc… since i dont think individual profiles interest people a lot for these characters
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I’m not talking about a team profile (Or maybe i am without realizing)
But the idea was to make a profile like this
Demons
« quick description about demon race and pictures »
Individual abilities for each demons + Link to demon clan physiology
Then the AP part
like:
1-A With red Demons High 1-A with Albions 0 with Indura
Same With dura Speed LS and other stats
and a skill section that specify the strength of the différent types (speed for Blue demons etc…)
We Would be able to centralize every Low ranked demons in 1 page that Would be imo a bit more interesting since it compiles more informations from profiles that are individually hollow and boring
But i didn’t really see anything like this before so idek if it’s possible or if we are allowed to do this
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You mean something like this?
The Reapers
The Reapers is the "Intelligence" created by the first galactic race, the Leviathans. Initially they were supposed to solve the problem of organics and synthetics killing each other, and instead turned on their creators, harvesting them into the first Reaper, Harbinger. Taking on their creator's...
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Yeah that’s basically what i thought about but it’s even better With the Kardashev lvl etc…You mean something like this?
The Reapers
The Reapers is the "Intelligence" created by the first galactic race, the Leviathans. Initially they were supposed to solve the problem of organics and synthetics killing each other, and instead turned on their creators, harvesting them into the first Reaper, Harbinger. Taking on their creator's...
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Okay we’ll see after the upgrades anyway
So are We finished With the AP ?
Or you want to add something ?
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Got a question.
Tristan states that Lancelot is obviously far above himself. Then proceeds to state that his power is comparable to the 7ds.
Can this implications get 4kota sins at Large Country level?
Tristan states that Lancelot is obviously far above himself. Then proceeds to state that his power is comparable to the 7ds.
Can this implications get 4kota sins at Large Country level?
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Better to wait for actual feats
As He could be on par With the strongest members and far above Diane and shit
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Yeah, we don't know exactly what Sins he's referring to, or if it's as a whole.
There were similar statements about Zaratras and the Sins at a time when Meliodas had his unsealed power, Merlin/Escanor were members, and Gowther had a strength level of 500.
There were similar statements about Zaratras and the Sins at a time when Meliodas had his unsealed power, Merlin/Escanor were members, and Gowther had a strength level of 500.
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Yeah he Is close to Meliodas power We don’t know if the other sins evolved but he 100% is among the strongest ones (Hope Ban is stronger it Would be cool)
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When will the speed part come out ?
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Also is the Meliodas vs Ban fight in the perfect cube canon ?
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After LS part.
Wasn't that anime only? If so, then it's non-canon.
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Yeah seems non canon
I have a general question tho
What if an entire cosmology composed of multiple universes was holding inside a book that people view as fiction and can enter.
Would it be considered as Low Complex in any cases ?
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Okay cause 7DS Grand Cross base Ragnarok side story on this
The Ragnarok multiverse is contained inside a book that they basically view as fiction
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Bump,
Wow this thread really died
Wow this thread really died
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when is the next topic coming out?
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releasing it tomorrow or today would improve my Christmas by 1000000%
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