Overlord General Discussion Mk. VII

[Apeironaxim]

Also @InfiniteSped, what do you think about the scaling chain I proposed for the Pleiades?

Should anyone be switched around, maybe a greater than or equal sign should just be greater than?

 

[InfiniteSped]

Yuri seems to have better attack than Lupus, prob because the latter has some cleric levels, with healing skills.

The rest seems fine

 

[Apeironaxim]

yea, due to the level difference, i was unsure if the extra stat gains from Lupus could make up the difference in Yuri's focused attack build

 

[Apeironaxim]

should i slightly edit the Pleiades's profiles to reflect the scaling chain?

 

[InfiniteSped]

I guess

 

[Apeironaxim]

quick question, where does Narberal's hundreds of kilometers range come from?

afaik, she has regular Teleportation, not Greater Teleportation, which i don't think has as much range

 

[InfiniteSped]

Don't they say that one could teleport from the Royal Capital to E-Rantel with the regular one?

 

[Apeironaxim]

do you know which volume?

 

[InfiniteSped]

6, when Ainz is talking about how they couldn't use TP to get there since they weren't supposed to have it, and when Gagaran was teasing Evileye about going with them to E-Rantel then coming back with teleportation.

 

[Apeironaxim]

ah, found it

thanks for helping. I'm so used to Greater Teleportation and Gate being used I forgot the range feats for regular Teleportation

too bad the range of attack spells isn't nearly as much in order to take advantage of it

 

[Apeironaxim]

also apparently Ainz can use Dimensional Lock which i forgot about, so i'll just add the Teleportation Negation, since the spell is already on the profile

 

[InfiniteSped]

Wasn't it the Staff that had it?

 

[Apeironaxim]

It would still be under the powers and abilities section

 

[Apeironaxim]

also, how do we treat skills?

 

[InfiniteSped]

wdym

 

[Apeironaxim]

do we classify them as magic?

like if someone had power null that worked specifically on magic, would skills still be able to be used?

i ask because when referring to skills, Ainz and the narration usually mention them separately, like "magic and skills"

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Yeah its sperate afaik there are tons of sereis with "Skills" that are specifically seperate from magic. Despite them being difficult to distinguish,

 

[InfiniteSped]

Skills are basically magic, so, idk. The only difference seems to be that you don't need MP for them.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

What were examples of skills again?

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

They're magic that doesn't require mana and instead have limits on how many you can use in small timeframe. They have been repeatdly treated as seperate from magic...then again its overlord so who knows,

 

[Apeironaxim]

so if they are seperate from magic, would they be nulled if someone used power null specifically meant for magic?

 

[InfiniteSped]

Who knows

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

I really don't know the answer overlord has gone out of it's way to seperate the two but are they sperate enough to not get nulled? Sorta a weird area...

 

[Apeironaxim]

Ainz wrinkled his brow ― despite having no brow ― as he saw this and reached a hand out. "...No, no, you should have prioritized healing." Yuri could have healed herself with her ki.

Yuri should get healing with her ki

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Yup she already has ki manip so adding healing shouldn't be a problem.

 

[FDrybob]

I would say they're in between spells and martial arts. They usually cost no mana to use, and some of them have effects not replicable by spells. However, some of them, like Shalltear's purifying lance, can optionally consume MP for an extra effect. I think that we should treat them as separate for now.

 

[Apeironaxim]

also, Resistance to Physical Impediment is a basic undead race trait, so Evileye should probably get it too

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Wait it is? Yuri as it as well...dang why did anyone choose human races in Yggdrasil?

 

[FDrybob]

Humans have less unique abilities, but less weaknesses as well. Racial classes are strong, but function as a double-edged sword.

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Fair ainz ability to nullify one of his weaknesses probably couldn't be accomplished easily it just seems like you automatically get a ton of immunities/resistances off the bat.

 

[Apeironaxim]

Yuri already has it

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

I fixed my comment

 

[FDrybob]

Wait it is? Yuri as it as well...dang why did anyone choose human races in Yggdrasil?

The guild of Ainz Ooal Gown was created by powergamers and experts on the game's mechanics. It's likely that you could end up with tons of weaknesses if you didn't know what you were doing when playing as a heteromorph. Playing as a human or a demihuman is easier and safer.

 

[Apeironaxim]

hmmm

i may be reading it wrong, actually

Physical Penalty Resistance

i just kinda assumed it meant any penalties to physical movement, but that may not be it

 

[FDrybob]

Penalties to physical movement and penalties to physical abilities may be one and the same.

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

snip

Fair point hadn't really thought of that.

 

[FDrybob]

Also, there was no penalty for killing heteromorph players, and doing so may actually be part of the requirements for some rare classes.

 

[Apeironaxim]

is anyone else kinda surprised Cure never gets used?

 

[InfiniteSped]

He's 2 busted

and you already said that

 

[Apeironaxim]

?

i meant for vs battles