One Piece: Wano Arc Part 1: AP Revisions; The Dawn

[Therefir]

My apologies, we aren't actually using the whitebeard 1.19 petaton calculation, we are using the fujitora 1.03 petaton calculation which means the bajrang gun would actually be 4.12 petatons which is continent level+ unfortunately.

Don't worry, I recently recalculated the Bajrang Gun at 4.49 petatons, Multi-Continent level, so we no longer need the multiplier.

 

[Therefir]

ah yea just noticed that the profiles have little scans on them if at all

Is it because there's some difficulty finding them?

I will try to add more scans for the top tiers.

 

[TotalMasterInfinity]

for now everything seems fine

 

[KingTempest]

If anyone wants to edit the sandbox, please say you're editing it before hand

People can overlap edits and hours of work can get erased because someone wanted to turn Zolo into Zoro

 

[Sword_guy_Z]

Don't worry, I recently recalculated the Bajrang Gun at 4.49 petatons, Multi-Continent level, so we no longer need the multiplier.

Amazing. It seems to have been accepted as well. Way to go!

 

[KingTempest]

I can add scans now

I've been trying to avoid illegal sites like mangasee and such because of the safety of it, and it's hard to find officials because my browser (chrome) can't use viz well

But I can manage it now (and I need to use this viz subscription)

 

[Metalballrun]

Mangasee usually uploads officials couple of hours after the official release. Not sure how HQ the scans are though.

I'm not encouraging anyone to use it. I'm just saying.

Spoiler

 

[SnookB]

Don't worry, I recently recalculated the Bajrang Gun at 4.49 petatons, Multi-Continent level, so we no longer need the multiplier.

4 petaton with or without the multiplier. The consistency brings joy to my soul

 

[Eseseso]

Remember when that feat used to be in the single digit exatons?

Sigh Fun times.

But yeah, the 4.5 petaton Bajrang Gun is incredibly consistent.

 

[SnookB]

"(after the punch expanded, he punched him hard enough to send him flying deep into the planet, leaving a dragon shaped crater and completely breaking his horn)"

That's the justification fo Bajrang Gun. I feel like "deep into the planet" is a bit of an exaggeration. It would make sense if the country itself wasn't like 20+ kilometers in the air and its magma chamber is just over the sea floor-
Maybe "flying deep into the country's crust" or "Send him far enough to land in Wanokuni's magma chamber" would be better? People are gonna misunderstand the heck outta that otherwise

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

Not really into OP but there was a scene in the anime where 4 of the Scabbards combine an attack that’s equal to Oden’s Totsuka, which was able to harm Kaido. Shouldn’t that mean that the Scabbards downscale to High 6-B (Kaido’s durability which is > 1 PT, divided by 4)

 

[Eseseso]

Not really into OP but there was a scene in the anime where 4 of the Scabbards combine an attack that’s equal to Oden’s Totsuka, which was able to harm Kaido. Shouldn’t that mean that the Scabbards downscale to High 6-B (Kaido’s durability which is > 1 PT, divided by 4)

Bruh that's literally what I proposed a few pages earlier.

The verdict is no, since they were all able to hurt Base Kaido when they themselves were in base.

 

[GodlyCharmander]

Not really into OP but there was a scene in the anime where 4 of the Scabbards combine an attack that’s equal to Oden’s Totsuka, which was able to harm Kaido. Shouldn’t that mean that the Scabbards downscale to High 6-B (Kaido’s durability which is > 1 PT, divided by 4)

That is some misinformation and a half.

• They've shown to make Base Kaidou scream with their swords.
• Their combined attack is literally each one's respective strongest move.
• It's weaker than Oden's attack.

No room for backscaling.

 

[SnookB]

Don't worry, I recently recalculated the Bajrang Gun at 4.49 petatons, Multi-Continent level, so we no longer need the multiplier.

wait... If the calc is based off just the size/swinging KE the 4x compression technically still stacks, no- ? Wouldn't Kaido's Shoryu: Kaen Hakke then be 4.49 for clashing with the swing/KE of the fist itself, But the x4 is what overwhelms him only AFTER the arm is released?

Or am I completely misinterperting this

 

[Damage3245]

wait... If the calc is based off just the size/swinging KE the 4x compression technically still stacks, no- ? Wouldn't Kaido's Shoryu: Kaen Hakke then be 4.49 for clashing with the swing/KE of the fist itself, But the x4 is what overwhelms him only AFTER the arm is released?

Or am I completely misinterperting this

The swinging his fist in a second is the fist decompressing:

As we can see in this panel, he was able to swing his fist in an instant to beat Kaidou, so we will be using a timeframe of 1 second for the swing.

So the multiplier wouldn't be applied to the value of that calc.

 

[SnookB]

The swinging his fist in a second is the fist decompressing:



So the multiplier wouldn't be applied to the value of that calc.

Oh, I didn't realize the formula applied to the FULL SWING. Nevermind that then

 

[GodlyCharmander]

wait... If the calc is based off just the size/swinging KE the 4x compression technically still stacks, no- ? Wouldn't Kaido's Shoryu: Kaen Hakke then be 4.49 for clashing with the swing/KE of the fist itself, But the x4 is what overwhelms him only AFTER the arm is released?

Or am I completely misinterperting this

Pain. Stop applying needless multipliers at already high values at once, please.

 

[SnookB]

Pain. Stop applying needless multipliers at already high values at once, please.

I wasn't doing it for higher values. I just thought the calc relied fully on the fist's KE independently of the compression. But damage already clarified that. My fresh outta' bed brain didn't register it entirely at first reading

 

[GroundX1]

Don't worry, I recently recalculated the Bajrang Gun at 4.49 petatons, Multi-Continent level, so we no longer need the multiplier.

didn't luffy have to make an effort to knock kaido down using this attack?, like kaido held up well in the collision, luffy had to make an effort to overcome

 

[Therefir]

The swing itself is what defeated Kaido though, the punch coming down is still around 1 petaton in KE.

 

[GodlyCharmander]

didn't luffy have to make an effort to knock kaido down using this attack?, like kaido held up well in the collision, luffy had to make an effort to overcome

This does not partake into the timeframe of Luffy swinging the thing, which is what is being calculated.

 

[LordGinSama]

5-B Whitebeard when?

 

[Eseseso]

5-B Whitebeard when?

Honestly it'd likely be higher since the OP world is gigantic

 

[Eseseso]

Hey guys, I think I may have found a solution to the Perospero problem.

So remember how Jack said that the near-death Scabbards are far above the Zoan Tobiroppo?

That would include the injured Neko, who would thus be above the Zoan Tobiroppo even while injured and in base, aka 477.6 gigatons.

Thus, since Perospero overpowered and tanked hits from Injured Base Neko (and was only overpowered by Sulong Injured Neko), Perospero would scale above him and thus also scale above the Zoan Tobiroppo, so he would also scale above 477.6 gigatons (aka, A-4).


Since IIRC Sulong Carrot and Wanda slashed his face via a double combined attack, they'd each scale to half of his durability/AP, so 238.8 gigatons for each of their Sulong forms.

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

Since IIRC Sulong Carrot and Wanda slashed his face via a double combined attack, they'd each scale to half of his durability/AP, so 238.8 gigatons for each of their Sulong forms.

No. They both damaged him individually.

 

[Eseseso]

No. They both damaged him individually.

Really? I don't remember them doing any damage but the double face slash.

 

[KingTempest]

Hey guys, I think I may have found a solution to the Perospero problem.

So remember how Jack said that the near-death Scabbards are far above the Zoan Tobiroppo?

That would include the injured Neko, who would thus be above the Zoan Tobiroppo even while injured and in base, aka 477.6 gigatons.

Thus, since Perospero overpowered and tanked hits from Injured Base Neko (and was only overpowered by Sulong Injured Neko), Perospero would scale above him and thus also scale above the Zoan Tobiroppo, so he would also scale above 477.6 gigatons (aka, A-4).


Since IIRC Sulong Carrot and Wanda slashed his face via a double combined attack, they'd each scale to half of his durability/AP, so 238.8 gigatons for each of their Sulong forms.

The Tobiroppo scale above Katakuri who Perospero scales to

Again, stop trying to scale Perospero to that level.

Like is your job literally just to break the scaling? Enough

 

[KingTempest]

I will be going through the entirety of Wano in order to get scans for everybody.

I request nobody edits the sandbox so their edits don't overlap with mine

 

[Isaiah_ZaMangaka]

Ah is it ok if I can help out with scans (not sure if yall already started looking for some) I found a way to make some scans of my own

 

[KingTempest]

Ah is it ok if I can help out with scans (not sure if yall already started looking for some) I found a way to make some scans of my own

I've already started putting them in. I have a simple way of doing it, so I don't think I need help. Thank you though

 

[Eseseso]

The Tobiroppo scale above Katakuri who Perospero scales to

Then we should give Pero a Wano key that none of his WCI arc siblings scale to, because there is no other way to explain how he fought, tanked hits from, and overpowered someone who was explicitly stated to be >> the Zoan Tobiroppo even near death.

 

[KingTempest]

Then we should give Pero a Wano key that none of his WCI arc siblings scale to, because there is no other way to explain how he fought, tanked hits from, and overpowered someone who was explicitly stated to be >> the Zoan Tobiroppo even near death.

It's called an outlier

They flat out said that Kata is stronger than Wano Pero.
Wano Pero is the same one.

 

[KingTempest]

From this point on I don't wanna hear a damn thing about Perospero in Wano.

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

Perospero mid anyways not a top 3 sibling

 

[GodlyCharmander]

Eseseso's presence alone makes the thread multiply threefold in pages. I really don't mean to be mean, but I'd love if he stopped talking, as he, 99/100, either say something irrelevant, or incorrect.

 

[KingTempest]

Removing Zoro's first key. His scaling is the same from Dressrosa and his next key, and frankly it's a waste of space.

 

[SnookB]

Removing Zoro's first key. His scaling is the same from Dressrosa and his next key, and frankly it's a waste of space.

This I agree with. Zoro had nothing different until he got Enma, so unless we're planning on an "uncontrolled Enma" key (which'd have nothing different but damage boost) then it's pointless.

 

[Eminiteable]

Removing Zoro's first key. His scaling is the same from Dressrosa and his next key, and frankly it's a waste of space.

Btw when you add values to the sandbox Zoro's 1st Wano key's Buso rating would be 716.4 GT instead of 477.6 GT due to performing those early raid feats in Nitoryu. His base rating would also still scale to his dressrosa base rating for the same reasons.

 

[Eseseso]

For Post-Udon G4 Luffy's strongest attacks, maybe it could be added after the part about his Kong Gatling hurting Zoan Kaido that it also shocked Big Mom with it's power.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Kong Gatling isn’t a Strongest Attack, that’s a regular Gear 4th move guys, why is it separate from the Kong Gun and Kong Rifle?