One Piece: Sanji Kenbunshoku Downgrade

[KingTempest]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/sanjis-coo-upgrade.114464/#post-3668691

This is the thread that allowed his Kenbunshoku to be in the advanced level. However I have an issue with it.

I found the scan

It never confirms Sanji has it.

It uses Sanji's pretty blatant feat of dodging someone else's thrown projectile as the image. Zoro and Luffy are the other users. Probably using him because he's the CoO specialist of the group, and Oda used Luffy and Zoro as the other examples.

It never says Sanji has it. It just uses his picture, and it talks about other usages.

On top of that, Sanji has never used Future Sight in the manga. He has no future sight feats at all.

He should go to Proficient and call it a day.

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

Yes.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

This makes sense, I'll agree but he's still advanced

 

[Jibz]

Yeah it seems there’s no hard confirmation of Sanji having future sight, especially since it says “some” clearly differentiating between two options of which Sanji can be either. Agreed

 

[Kachon123]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/sanjis-coo-upgrade.114464/#post-3668691

This is the thread that allowed his Kenbunshoku to be in the advanced level. However I have an issue with it.

I found the scan

It never confirms Sanji has it.

It uses Sanji's pretty blatant feat of dodging someone else's thrown projectile as the image. Zoro and Luffy are the other users. Probably using him because he's the CoO specialist of the group, and Oda used Luffy and Zoro as the other examples.

It never says Sanji has it. It just uses his picture, and it talks about other usages.

On top of that, Sanji has never used Future Sight in the manga. He has no future sight feats at all.

He should go to Proficient and call it a day.

I agree. I do believe Sanji will get FS, and another form of Advanced Kenbun soon though, just a matter of time.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Luffy’s got better versions of all Haki than Zoro and Sanji and yet Oda acts they all specialize in one type

 

[Deceived3596]

I do believe Sanji will get FS, and another form of Advanced Kenbun soon though, just a matter of time

Straight Copium.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Luffy’s got better versions of all Haki than Zoro and Sanji and yet Oda acts they all specialize in one type

I swear there is a scan of sanji sensing someone who luffy couldn't and luffy said I guess I'll need more training in obs haki or something in wano...

But

 

[KingTempest]

Luffy’s got better versions of all Haki than Zoro and Sanji and yet Oda acts they all specialize in one type

ehhhh specializing ≠ being better
It's like how Kaku is better at Rankakyu than Lucci but Lucci's Rankakyu is stronger

I swear there is a scan of sanji sensing someone who luffy couldn't and luffy said I guess I'll need more training in obs haki or something in wano...

But

Same thing above
Sanji can sense things Luffy can't
Luffy has a more advanced version

 

[KobsterHope07]

I swear there is a scan of sanji sensing someone who luffy couldn't and luffy said I guess I'll need more training in obs haki or something in wano...

But

That was somewhere during the Onigashima Raid which lead to Sanji being captured by Black Maria and her women

As for the thread itself, I‘m okay with the downgrade

 

[Crabwhale]

I agree with this.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Yeah this is fine, sorry Wanjay fans

 

[Kidkinsey]

He's probably getting it in the future but as of now this proposal makes sense

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Sure, this works.

 

[DiedrichYagami]

I agree 100%, I realized this was wrong a time ago and intended on doing a CRT in this subject sooner or later but Tempest blitzed me :v

 

[KingTempest]

Everybody be like "I blitzed em" bro I took my time

That thread is a year old

 

[SnookB]

Agreed. Always been on the fence for this because he never directly showed it or had a statement that hinted at it.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

This is fine.

 

[Nierre]

fine by me

 

[Damage3245]

It seems like the translated caption is using Sanji's image for the first part, not the second part.

Says basically "reading movements and emotions, they can avoid danger" and has a picture of Sanji dodging an attack.

So not necessarily Advanced, yeah.

 

[KingTempest]

Damage DDM DGM US Crab and Monkey all agreed. Revised.

Closing