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But it's right there!Could you not?
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But it's right there!Could you not?
I've seen y'all Bleach goons before don't act like this is any better
Donāt be so hasty to jump to hostile conclusions Clover. Just like I donāt type out your full username CloverDragon03 because Iām lazy, doesnāt imply that thereās an ulterior motive. Moron chose the username āthat moronā, like if I chose the username d1ckh3ad and got insulted when people called me that, that falls on me. So like could you not make this into something bigger than what it isAlso, I'm gonna be the one to say that it's clear you're using his username as an alibi to insult his intelligence without anyone questioning it so like... Could you not? It ain't slick
If it was hasty I would've made a serious note of this the first time you did it but I was trying to give benefit of the doubt, thank you very much. The thing is, theoretically speaking, you could be doing exactly what I believe you are and also just continue to play this card and I can't really do anything about it. You're the only one that 100% knows for sure what you are and aren't doing.Donāt be so hasty to jump to hostile conclusions Clover. Just like I donāt type out your full username CloverDragon03 because Iām lazy, doesnāt imply that thereās an ulterior motive. Moron chose the username āthat moronā, like if I chose the username d1ckh3ad and got insulted when people called me that, that falls on me. So like could you not make this into something bigger than what it is
But I'm willing to move on from this point in the interest of not derailing the thread more.But it's right there!
Iām referring to a user by concise version of their username that makes it obvious who Iām talking about clover.If it was hasty I would've made a serious note of this the first time you did it but I was trying to give benefit of the doubt, thank you very much. The thing is, theoretically speaking, you could be doing exactly what I believe you are and also just continue to play this card and I can't really do anything about it. You're the only one that 100% knows for sure what you are and aren't doing.
This just felt kinda obvious to me so I felt I should bring it up either way. The comment above doesn't exactly help either...
Probably for the best, if you feel this warrants more discussion I guess we can continue on my message wall, but for the sake of not clogging this thread I agree letās move on.But I'm willing to move on from this point in the interest of not derailing the thread more.
That was very clearly a joke...The comment above doesn't exactly help either...
Whatever you say.
So what do you suggest we do about it? Which calculation to useNo, both are equally bad, two wrongs do not make a right.
He would dodge, and his feet would of course be lowered, this would, in turn, increase the distance, and thus timeframe that he has to dodge without being hit.
But the distance to the ground? Nuh uh, ignoring the beam was aimed at his head so you'd at minimum subtract his head width from at distance, that would directly imply that the moment the beam hits the ground he's just finishing his dodge.
That is impossible, the beam's trajectory would have hit him as he does his 180 flip, like around his clavicle, and he would be flipping directly into the beam.
As such, we need to figure out how far the beam can go, while he's still able to do the movement required of him, without him and the beam occupying the same space at any point. Figure that out, and you have your distance.
Chariot proposed an entirely new method. Itāll definitely need blogging of its own, thoughSo what do you suggest we do about it? Which calculation to use
In this same logic you can't claims 299792458 m/s is not a calc as it came from many calculations and formulas to be foundClover, the figure of "0.000000003336 seconds" only comes from a calc here. You can't claim that "1 m / 299792458 m/s" is not a calc.
Was this ever answeredI'm so confused. If what determines whether this is calc stacking or not is dependent on if calculating 1 m / 299792458 m/s (light speed) to get the 0.000000003336 seconds figure, then wouldn't using literally any timeframe in this page including the average human reactions be considered calc stacking as they're all derived from the speeds in this page (0.13 s- 0.1s reactions for average humans comes from the 5 m/s and 7.7 m/s respectively by dividing 1 by them)?
That's 0.2 - 0.13 for average human, as I know these aren't from 1meter / speed thing(also like there's no need of that). Let's wait CGMs to respond.Was this ever answered
So are you suggesting that another CRT be made for Kaido calculation?I think we're waiting for Chariot's proposed method to be put in a blog and evaluated, then we'll a better list of choices to pick from for evaluating the feat.
The Kaido calc will be removed but best handled in a separate CRT once this whole thread is finished.
Well, we'd need a CRT anyway to determine any changes to justifications/ratings, etc. A Calc Group thread like this should just be about which version of a calc should be used, and whether a calc should be removed; not about altering the profiles themselves.So are you suggesting that another CRT be made for Kaido calculation?
I didn't know that, I got it nowWell, we'd need a CRT anyway to determine any changes to justifications/ratings, etc. A Calc Group thread like this should just be about which version of a calc should be used, and whether a calc should be removed; not about altering the profiles themselves.
Then maybe I also should change my blog's distance part and add another end where Queen attacks while Sanji's feet were up.I think we're waiting for Chariot's proposed method to be put in a blog and evaluated, then we'll a better list of choices to pick from for evaluating the feat.
this gonna be out of context, but how do you know it's 2338? I couldn't find any frame from the episodes 1074-1076 because the link of Timeframe that KT's input to his blog is not available@KLOL506 I know this isn't so necessary, but it would be great if KT corrects "frame 2328" part of Low 5-B AP blog as probably he wanted to write 2338.
If I remember correctly I just copied feat's link from youtube and watched it on framebyframe myself. At first I also wanted to adress L5B calc for it taking 10 frames, not 1. I thought that where we see part of luffy's fist, he claims that curve is his fist that already rotated 180 degrees. Then I noticed that if he meant 2338 that would make sense as there that part is probably fist itself and after 1 frame it is fully rotated.this gonna be out of context, but how do you know it's 2338? I couldn't find any frame from the episodes 1074-1076 because the link of Timeframe that KT's input to his blog is not available
Thanks! if there's any chance, is this the frame that KT used? if you remember.If I remember correctly I just copied feat's link from youtube and watched it on framebyframe myself. At first I also wanted to adress L5B calc for it taking 10 frames, not 1. I thought that where we see part of luffy's fist, he claims that curve is his fist that already rotated 180 degrees. Then I noticed that if he meant 2338 that would make sense as there that part is probably fist itself and after 1 frame it is fully rotated.
Thanks! if there's any chance, is this the frame that KT used? if you remember.
ooo, alright, i just watched the same scene, now i understand. Thanks!No, it's 1 frame before 2339 and looks like 2331(I only have these ones with me to show for now)
Iirc current Sanji calc is accepted to be wrong(my version too) and Chariot suggested a new method. I would be happy if someone tagged him.I've lost track of what's meant to be happening here. I don't know which version of Sanji's calc we're going with but I'm 90% sure that the Kaidou calc can be removed at this point though I'm not sure if there were any dissenting votes on that point.
We'll see when it gets bloggedBump
So now we've come to a conclusion on the best method for Sanji's calc?
Can we tag him in this thread?We'll see when it gets blogged
he probably forgot about that
No, both are equally bad, two wrongs do not make a right.
He would dodge, and his feet would of course be lowered, this would, in turn, increase the distance, and thus timeframe that he has to dodge without being hit.
But the distance to the ground? Nuh uh, ignoring the beam was aimed at his head so you'd at minimum subtract his head width from at distance, that would directly imply that the moment the beam hits the ground he's just finishing his dodge.
That is impossible, the beam's trajectory would have hit him as he does his 180 flip, like around his clavicle, and he would be flipping directly into the beam.
As such, we need to figure out how far the beam can go, while he's still able to do the movement required of him, without him and the beam occupying the same space at any point. Figure that out, and you have your distance.
I agree. I very well could be wrong, but the type of motion Sanji would most likely be doing, at least to me, is something like this
Where he flips over into a crouching-like pose (except he doesn't stand straight back up and 180 turns), such a pose would also enable him to go directly into the diving run/lunge he does as the beams explode too. Though I will say it ultimately wouldn't change much from if it was a 180 turn at full body length, given it'd instead become 180 upper body, and like multiple 90 degrees leg movements, as well as him extending his legs into the dive as we see one of his legs almost completely stretched out.