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why do people keep saying this? I spent 30 minutes explaining how kidd has never been shown directly overpowering a H6A character with his magnetism alone

The feat against big mom on the roof is invalid
His other magnetism feats are while using awakening
If kidd doesn't use awakening he is not making queen budge let alone tossing him around
..How is the feat against Big Mom invalid?
 
This is a fallacious argument
= I can't debunk it or post a panel of him coating the mechanical parts that Kidd would pull so I claim it's a fallacy
I'm not sure what this is talking about ( I genuinely forgot how that part of the fight went ) so I'm not gonna address it, but Kidd did slam her with Punk Gibson iirc.
 
= I can't debunk it or post a panel of him coating the mechanical parts that Kidd would pull so I claim it's a fallacy
Claiming that because Queen never coated his mechanical arm in haki (despite him having done so with his other arm before) means that being able to coat other body parts is not a basic haki ability is a fallacious argument.
 
I'm not sure what this is talking about ( I genuinely forgot how that part of the fight went ) so I'm not gonna address it, but Kidd did slam her with Punk Gibson iirc.
He grabbed her face and pushed he backwards. She didn't fight back, not a LS feat.
 
Because you argued it
I'm arguing that he's used his lasers to outrange his opponents. He's never had to back up in-canon, as he's always had the superior range, but that means that in this case, he would use his lasers to outrange Kidd/pressure Kidd to run back, forcing Queen outside of his range.
 
I'm arguing that he's used his lasers to outrange his opponents. He's never had to back up in-canon, as he's always had the superior range, but that means that in this case, he would use his lasers to outrange Kidd/pressure Kidd to run back, forcing Queen outside of his range.
Kidd is too ******* [REDACTED] to hit the S key bro
 
The idea that Queen couldn’t coat his metal arm in basic haki is…really weird? It shouldn’t be any different than how Cracker can imbue his biscuit constructs with Haki, or how literally any swordmen does their weapon.

unless we are to assume that Queen’s haki is below even the most basic application of the ability he should have no issue coating his arm in the stuff, along with any other metallic piece he has.
 
It should also be noted that Koka Buso > Regular Buso, so Queen's Haki > Kidd's Haki.

Because of this, Kidd's Magnetism wouldn't even work.
 
He didn't even coat his sword though.
Like I get where you're coming from but still.
Not to mention he has no prior knowledge so it's not like he'd know to use it in time to stop Kidd from tossing him around.
 
Not to mention he has no prior knowledge
He likely knows who Kidd is. Also, it doesn't take more than 2 braincells to see someone magically combining pieces of metal together to create a metal arm or a giant metal structure to come to the conclusion that he has a magnetism ability.
 
His awakening works so Queen is finished anyways
I already addressed his Awakening:

ASSIGN:

At face value, assign looks to be the most valuable asset in this match, as it could potentially trap Queen, allowing Kidd to hit him with whatever he wants, but this isn't true.

Queen has extendable limbs. Even if Kidd manages to catch him, which I doubt due to invisibility, Queen can literally just extend his neck, tail, hair, or arm to continue to attack him. Or he could call out the Brachio Launchers, which are voice-activated. Or he could continue to shoot his danmaku lasers from his eyes
 
I already addressed his Awakening:

ASSIGN:

At face value, assign looks to be the most valuable asset in this match, as it could potentially trap Queen, allowing Kidd to hit him with whatever he wants, but this isn't true.

Queen has extendable limbs. Even if Kidd manages to catch him, which I doubt due to invisibility, Queen can literally just extend his neck, tail, hair, or arm to continue to attack him. Or he could call out the Brachio Launchers, which are voice-activated. Or he could continue to shoot his danmaku lasers from his eyes
Assign would work. Queen is not that smart to do that hes a dumbass lol and all this wouldnt stop Kidd from using Assign at all.
 
When did I say it wouldn't?

Not an argument what the ****?

When did I say it would?
It is an argument lol saying your imagination that Queen would attack from his eyes or some bs like this isnt an argument either. When tf did Queen ever used Danmaku lasers mid attack from his opponent? Never
 
It is an argument lol saying your imagination that Queen would attack from his eyes or some bs like this isnt an argument either. When tf did Queen ever used Danmaku lasers mid attack from his opponent? Never
I don't think that's crazy or out of character for Queen. Unless you're arguing that Kidd is just going to outright blitz him, why would Queen lay down and allow Kidd to charge his attacks? At best assign lasts a few seconds. Queen is not going to sit around and watch Kidd charge his attack when his specialty is shooting lasers.
 
Kidd gets close, uses Assign, then either sticks Queen to a wall like he did Bigger Mom or Punk Clashes him.
punk crash is a good win con I guess but kidd is going to get caught up in his own attack no?
would he do something that risky if he knew he didn't have law to bail him out?
 
punk crash is a good win con I guess but kidd is going to get caught up in his own attack no?
would he do something that risky if he knew he didn't have law to bail him out?
Kidd is rather reckless, and his durability is ******* bonkers.

He could also assign Queen to a wall, summon either Punk Rotten or Damned Punk, then unleash his fury.
 
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