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One piece: Eustass Kid vs Queen
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Fair then. Kidd would destroy Queen and finish him off with Awakening like bro literally made 3 Homie BM scream in pain and forced her to go Soul Amp herself. When Queen failed to even harm The Weakest Version of Big Mom (Olin) with a Prep attack Brachio Tank
DaMonkeMan
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Which helped Doflamingo sense Absalom right?
Haki
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I already addressed this in the thread, big mom is being repelled into the sky, meaning that she doesn't really have any ground or solid surface she could use to resist his magnetic push
It did not overpower big mom
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Can you show, not tell?
I want to see Queen physically going backwards to more effectively spam his lasers.
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The fact that they can burn the likes on Marineford Luffy, who could take the heat of Enel's lightning.
No
No
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No, read the chapter. I'm not going to be the only person here providing scans. If you don't even know Queen's standard tactics, I'm worried on if your vote was even casted with knowledge of both characters in mind.
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Notice how Sanji was actively looking for Queen
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Then why, pray tell, is Vergo so special?
If he leaves any metal un-haki'd he's getting yeeted, so...
If you're not gonna back up your claims then your argument is irrelevant, cool.
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Haki potency.
If Kidd has enough space/time to use his ability, sure.
You're trolling?
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And not the full-body haki literally nobody else has shown to my knowledge?
Which is somewhat easy for him to claim since A. Queen doesn't use Haki all that often, making his laser Barrage less effective if Kidd literally moves his arms. And B. Yeeting shit at Queen which he has to counter if he doesn't want to get ******* murdered.
No, I just don't feel like going out of my way to prove my opponent's claims
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I'm voting Queen only if there's proof that his Haki is that good. Although in hidnsight Kid hasn't shown it AT ALL, so any layer of visible armament>Kid's ability, really.
Though remember, Queen is mechanical in more than just arms. His neck is also mechanical. If he doesn't put Kid down fast enough he might get his neck twisted into a pretzel if Kid realizes he's made of metal.
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Pica, Jinbe, Luffy, Kaidou, Zoro, and more.
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This is assuming he gets the chance as he's simultaneously having to deal with danmaku.
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Being able to coat your body isn't a potency thing.
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Did they appear jet black literally all over like Vergo?
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Reading the manga isn't "proving your opponent's claims." It's chosing to not be ignorant when you have the tools in front of you.
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I'm gonna say this-
If Queen realizes Kid is that dangerous, he'd go invisible and want to play keep away. In that case, Kid is absolutely screwed if he doesn't one shot Queen with his magentism (if he even can)
So if Queen goes invisible, spams laser beams or electrocutes Kid repeatedly-- I'd say Queen takes it.
What layer is his haki potency scaling to then?
If Queen realizes Kid is that dangerous, he'd go invisible and want to play keep away. In that case, Kid is absolutely screwed if he doesn't one shot Queen with his magentism (if he even can)
So if Queen goes invisible, spams laser beams or electrocutes Kid repeatedly-- I'd say Queen takes it.
What layer is his haki potency scaling to then?
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But he hasn't been shown using it on more than 1 arm (and he only used it once).
Kidd is resilient enough to take beatdowns from Bigger Mom, no way Queen takes him out before Kidd goes magneto on his ass.
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You made the claim, telling me to go read Chapter XYZ is not backing it up.
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Kidd can just summon all the metal stuff in the area with his magnetism, including Queen.
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If Queen turns invisible Kidd has ways to counter it
Magnetic Detection, Area Attacks, Environmental Manip, Coordinated Attacks
Magnetic Detection, Area Attacks, Environmental Manip, Coordinated Attacks
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Automatically above Kidd, who doesn't have confirmed Koka.
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Yes Pica
No Jinbe
Maybe Luffy
I'd probably need to see the previous panel for Zoro... what chapter is it?
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spent 30 minutes debunking this
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They don't read. Don't be surprised.
When people spent tens of minutes reading character profiles, their fights, and then make an in-depth break down of the fight, they skim over it and ask the same things that were brought up and act as if that post never existed.
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Idk why people are assuming haki needs to be a fullbody thing to negate an ability though. It's a matter of releasing a big enough concentration of it at all, so if Queen does that Kid would not attract him via his metal body. Since he scales higher via haki.
Kid's one trick pony-ness comes in use here, and his endurance makes a different. Queen being made of the one thing Kid is meant to control also makes it hard to vote for him despite the vast array of things he can do.
Going Incon
Kid's one trick pony-ness comes in use here, and his endurance makes a different. Queen being made of the one thing Kid is meant to control also makes it hard to vote for him despite the vast array of things he can do.
Going Incon
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Naw I said incon
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I don't think Kidd has been shown to endure being penetrated by several tens to hundreds of lasers.
DaMonkeMan
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Yeah we can't assume Queen could coat his metal arm and the metal machine gun inside his mouth with Haki, so I'm still voting Kidd because he can toss him around.
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DaMonkeMan
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Actually, show me a panel of him doing it.
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Basically TMM is saying that Since Queen doesn't have proof of doing more then the arm it shouldn't be assumed he can
That's what I got anyway
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That's a basic haki ability though? I'm confused by his claim.
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why do people keep saying this? I spent 30 minutes explaining how kidd has never been shown directly overpowering a H6A character with his magnetism alone
The feat against big mom on the roof is invalid
His other magnetism feats are while using awakening
If kidd doesn't use awakening he is not making queen budge let alone tossing him around
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"Basic Haki ability" Which is why he hasn't been shown coating the metal arm
