Law vs Akainu

[ZKillerz]

Location: Onigashima rooftop
Distance: 50 meters

Magma Squirt:
Surgeon of death: Darkvie123, Nierre, Eseseso
Incon:

 

[Eseseso]

If Aokiji beat Law, so is Akainu.

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

The important question here is if Law has enough Haki layers to actually harm Akainu.

 

[Kachon123]

The important question here is if Law has enough Haki layers to actually harm Akainu.

He might, although that doesn't matter due to spatial manipulation and Mes that both bypass logia intangibility.

Law scales to around 6 or 7, while Akainu scales to 7, so Akainu could block technically block Law's spatial manipulation techniques, but his haki isn't always active like Big Mom and Kaidou's were, so I can see him getting caught off-guard by R Room.

Staying neutral right now, but until some arguments show up for Akainu, I'm leaning toward Law.

 

[ZKillerz]

If Aokiji beat Law, so is Akainu.

Idk about that matchup but lets talk about this one specifically

 

[ZKillerz]

The important question here is if Law has enough Haki layers to actually harm Akainu.

I think they are similar

 

[Kachon123]

I think they are similar

Pre-Timeskip Akainu (5) < Post War Akainu (6) < Post Aokiji Akainu (7)

Pre-Death Ace (5) ~ Pre-Timeskip Blackbeard < Post-Payback War Blackbeard (6) ~ Law (6)

 

[ZKillerz]

Is a 1 haki layer difference enough to negate attacks on logias?

 

[Nierre]

i feel like haki layers DEFINITELY needs to be taken a look at again. Sometimes it feels like people just spout bs because nobody can agree with the layer a character has. They definitely need to be reexamined imo

 

[Kachon123]

Is a 1 haki layer difference enough to negate attacks on logias?

Yes

 

[Ryuga21]

Akainu resists probably all of Law's attacks, even his most dangerous K-room attacks. In contrast, a single hit from Akainu could potentially kill Law (Law is not a brute in physique to tank the magma that melted WB's head). Furthermore, Akainu could very well reshape his body to avoid Law's attacks more precisely. He could very well do what he did in Punk Hazard and start summoning volcanoes and set the entire arena on fire, just to put more pressure on Law.

 

[Kachon123]

Akainu resists probably all of Law's attacks, even his most dangerous K-room attacks

How so?

 

[Ryuga21]

Gura Gura quakes can match Law's Kroom. Akainu took this to the head, without using haki to defend himself, and stood up.

 

[Kachon123]

Gura Gura quakes can match Law's Kroom. Akainu took this to the head, without using haki to defend himself, and stood up.

Law wasn't using Shock or Puncture Wille when he clashed with Teach's Gura quakes, so there's nothing saying that they're relative.

 

[ZKillerz]

Gura Gura quakes can match Law's Kroom. Akainu took this to the head, without using haki to defend himself, and stood up.

That was simply law's lifting strength though

 

[Ryuga21]

Law wasn't using Shock or Puncture Wille when he clashed with Teach's Gura quakes, so there's nothing saying that they're relative.

It seems that he was, otherwise Teach's tremor would have simply affected Law's body and everything around it, but it neatly stopped when he collided with K-room. Anyway Akainu is still tough enough to tank a puncture wille.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

although that doesn't matter due to spatial manipulation and Mes that both bypass logia intangibility.

Yee but that still gets blocked by haki tho

 

[Kachon123]

Yee but that still gets blocked by haki tho

Haki isn't passive.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

I do personally think tho that law can in small instances get changes of overpowering akainu's Haki, tho not in a clash or something

Haki isn't passive.

It kinda is especially when your using your own haki against it... But the passive haki is just much weaker haki if not utilized

 

[Eminiteable]

Pre-Death Ace (5) ~ Pre-Timeskip Blackbeard < Post-Payback War Blackbeard (6) ~ Law (6)

Pre-timeskip Blackbeard doesn't scale to Ace's Haki and Law doesn't scale to Blackbeard's Haki.

 

[Kachon123]

Pre-timeskip Blackbeard doesn't scale to Ace's Haki

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Law doesn't scale to Blackbeard's Haki.

They had a haki clash right before the fight was off-screened

 

[Eminiteable]

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That's just the Yami Yami, we see him do it before:

They had a haki clash right before the fight was off-screened

Not a haki clash, Oda's Post-timeskip Gura effect just looks a lot like lightning I guess (or maybe he straight up changed it to lightning):

 

[Kachon123]

That's just the Yami Yami, we see him do it before:

Black beard didn't have his Yami coated though in the scan I sent.

In the one you sent, he grabbed Ace to make sure he was touchable and couldn't use his abilities, so they're not really the same.

Not a haki clash, Oda's Post-timeskip Gura effect just looks a lot like lightning I guess (or maybe he straight up changed it to lightning):

Fair

 

[Eminiteable]

Black beard didn't have his Yami coated though in the scan I sent.

In the one you sent, he grabbed Ace to make sure he was touchable and couldn't use his abilities, so they're not really the same.

He doesn't need coating, this is the page after the one I sent:

Ace credit's BB's ability after his neck was broke (in the sense that it took away his logia invulnerability):

When he bypasses Luffy's rubber body he's also just touching him (no yami coating on his actual hand):

 

[Kachon123]

True

 

[Darkvie123]

Akainu claps him just like how Hybrid Kaido blitzed him. Law already lost from Kuzan and Akainu beat Kuzan which they are relative. Law's Haki aint even close to Akainus. Akainu negates Law's DF with his superior Haki and makes another donut for his bakery

 

[DaReaperMan]

Law is a really respectable fighter, but Akainu has one of the nastiest DF+Haki combos in the verse, a guy you can't punch without losing the limb without haki, but the guy's haki is also damn high into the layers train and that means you can't even really harm him without equal or better Haki.

Unless you're one of the GOATS of Haki scaling, which Law to my knowledge is not, ya kinda can't beat Akainu

 

[Nierre]

Definitely Akainu lol (fra)

 

[Eseseso]

What exactly does Akainu scale to Haki-wise?

 

[Kachon123]

What exactly does Akainu scale to Haki-wise?

Pre-Timeskip Akainu (5) < Post War Akainu (6) < Post Aokiji Akainu (7)

 

[Eseseso]

What is pre-ts Akainu's haki layering?

 

[Kachon123]

What is pre-ts Akainu's haki layering?

He has 5 layers. I said that in the message I quoted.

 

[Eseseso]

He has 5 layers. I said that in the message I quoted.

But how does he have 5 layers?

 

[Kachon123]

But how does he have 5 layers?

Read the Buso layer thread

 

[DaMonkeMan]

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