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I think this makes the most sense.Peter1129 said:Just make him At least High 7-A likely Low 6-B possibly 6-B.
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I think this makes the most sense.Peter1129 said:Just make him At least High 7-A likely Low 6-B possibly 6-B.
What?? You think Zoro will fight blackbeard, who is Luffys rival for Pirate king? That's like Luffy fighting Mihawk. Not to mention Zoro wont ever be strong enough to beat Blackbeard. Theres a 0% chance of that happening. We know nothing about Imu so why are you assuming he is a swordsman? Not gonna even bother addressing the Blackbeard is carrying Rogers will and Luffy is carrying Rocks will.LordWhis said:Does anyone see Luffy vs Akainu and Zoro vs Blackbeard happening ? He'll be the perfect person to beat Blackbeard, due to not having a devil fruit.
I could also see Imu-sama be Zoro's final enemy, due to being a swordsman.
Does anyone think Luffy is carrying on Rocks' will and Teach is carrying on Roger's will. Luffy is against the WG while BB will probably ally with them.
Also we now know that Pirate King was an idea that existed before Roger became it.
Anyone think there's a connection between Ryuuma and Rocks ?
Yeah, the Vivre Card came out a long while ago. You can check most of the details here; https://thelibraryofohara.com/vivre-card-databook/AstralKing7 said:Ohhh the the card came out?
Isn't Sanji vs Shiryuu pretty much confirmed now ?Stefano4444 said:Zoro would most likely fight Shiryu.
Because he took Absalom's fruit? How does that make it more likely than Zoro always fighting the swordsman?LordWhis said:Isn't Sanji vs Shiryuu pretty much confirmed now ?
You guys are sleeping on my joke and I don't like that.Tetsucabrah said:
Even if he is a "swordsman" Zoro will not surpass him or even be equal to him, same with Roger. I hope this helps.LordWhis said:Also, Whitebeard had one of the 12 supreme grade swords and no scars on his back (Swordsman's greatest shame) Whitebeard swordsman confirmed ?
As you yourself said, it could go either way, therefore he deserves a 'possibly'. The whole reason we have 'possibly' in our tierlist is for situations like these. Though if you remove his profile then I guess that's also fine.CinCameron20 said:Benn Beckmann's statement doesn't really imply strength, but reputation (could go either way, actually). The same could be argued for Rayleigh who held a high reputation (especially despite being retired for decades), yet he'd be inferior to Roger in combat. He was clearly losing ground vs Kizaru, so would we suggest Kizaru to be superior to Roger? Naw.
And besides, we have not even seen Benn fight in any way. Shanks at least has feats stopping attacks from Akainu and WB, but Benn has nothing. IDK why he even has a profile. It's completely pointless (same w/ Dragon and Roger).
Also, regarding WB vs Kizaru: we see them "fighting" for literally one page. WB stops Kizaru from attacking Luffy, WB looks up to see Luffy's progress at saving Ace, Kizaru takes advantage of this and shoots a beam at his chest before shooting the key Luffy way trying to use. How are any of you going to try and legitimately argue that as a reason for Kizaru being 6-B?
Scars and hats ?VioIeLFC said:Oh and Zoro isn't a drunk, he's never been drunk in the entire series. He doesn't even drink that much. There literally isn't a single parallel between Zoro/Kaido and Luffy/Big Mom. The only similarity is the gluttony.
Wait, she isn't? Ugh, she did live among the giants for a time didn't she? That's probably why i misremember her as part giant, I do vaguely remember her being abandoned by her parents because she was far too difficult to take care of (or something along those lines)CinCameron20 said:@David - BM is not a giant. She had 2 human parents. She's an abnormality. She's considered human despite her size.
I mean yes it's not concrete but it along with Whitebeard being suprissed Shanks lost his arm does imply he though Shanks and by proxy Mihawk were pretty strong.Damage3245 said:Hyping up his duel as legendary doesn't really mean anything concrete.
No one removed it, they just didn't have it in the AP section until you edit.CinCameron20 said:Also, someone appears to have removed Dura negation from Kizaru and Akainu's AP descriptions (but not from powers/abilities) with no explanation, so I'm putting them back because this was discussed ages ago.
The databook also said that Shanks was Yonko 16 years ago and the last chapter disagree with that.Lgamer099 99 said:I mean yes it's not concrete but it along with Whitebeard being suprissed Shanks lost his arm does imply he though Shanks and by proxy Mihawk were pretty strong.
The Vivre card databook also says Mihawk "sits at the top as the strongest of all swordsmen", trained relentlessly until he had no more worthy challengers and it's implied he's waiting for an opponent stronger than Shanks.
Also the character bios for Marineford says that he is "The world's most powerful swordsman."
Shanks and Rayleigh are both swordsmen so Mihawk being considered the most powerful and strongest would imply Mihawk is stronger than them.
Aren't at most ratings designed for characters with virtually zero feats.Damage3245 said:@LordWhis; "At most 6-B" is way too generous for a character that has had virtually zero feats.