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Sanji has never been considered as a speedster. He's been always comparable to Zoro, possibly slightly faster at best. Luffy's G2 is the only speedster in the crew at the moment, and Brook has a fast travel speed because of how light he is.
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>>Also, considering we don't know anything beyond basic information on Kaido's ability, it's not logical to jump to conclusions since it is entirely possible he has an invulnerability factor that is yet to be revealed.
invulnerability was denied for Kaido a while ago . He just doesn't meet the criteria for that or immortality as he has been presented thus far. His toughness is the same as Big Mom and any character in shoenen if not fiction, too strong to hurt unless first weakened.
invulnerability was denied for Kaido a while ago . He just doesn't meet the criteria for that or immortality as he has been presented thus far. His toughness is the same as Big Mom and any character in shoenen if not fiction, too strong to hurt unless first weakened.
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Source on Jinbei saying Akainu had grown in power?
I only recall Jinbei saying that the Marines overall have grown in power.
I only recall Jinbei saying that the Marines overall have grown in power.
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That doesn't mean every specific marine got stronger.LordWhis said:
And why would he scale to Sengoku? Ranks don't mean characters are equals.
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Sengoku and Garp shouldn't be 6-B. That was my mistake when updating the verse.
Their current versions have no 6-B feats. Garp punched Marco and was going to kill Akainu while Sengoku held him and attacked Teach. The only 6-B in the war was Shirohige and Shanks.
>Admiral level Big Mom
>6-B Big Mom
Nandato?
Their current versions have no 6-B feats. Garp punched Marco and was going to kill Akainu while Sengoku held him and attacked Teach. The only 6-B in the war was Shirohige and Shanks.
>Admiral level Big Mom
>6-B Big Mom
Nandato?
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S Tell that to all the profiles on this site that list comparable for that very reason . . . .Damage3245 said:
I think it makes more sense for BB to scale because he is using that very same power, not because someone on this site expexts him to have gotten stronger off panel. His key should say "with Gura Gura" not "Post timeskip". SenGoku fought Gura-Gura BB off panel and seen ijnuring him and his whole crew in the manga and in the anime he matched his quake so for those reasons alone it makes sense for him to scale. Yes, he is old but so was WB & BM so that just means they were much stronger in their prime.
As far as Akainu being stronger than this version of BB because he ran away i take that as an outlier blamed on tactics and/or plot. Its too soon for Akainu to get defeated and his powers would be bad for BBs team without any ships
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Damage for some reason has a problem with using ranks and averages tbf
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Why use a statement about a 5/6 y/o Big Mom to determine that the Admirals would be = to her currently? Caramel merely pointed out that Linlin had the potential in power to become one of the strongest marines (and this was before she even got her DF) while she was still a child.
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Ok, i could see Sengoku (even if i disagree with that notion) but Garp? Hell no.The Calaca said:
The guy had fought Roger back in the old days just Whitebeard did, and at no point such statements had be imply to be mere exaggerations, if anyone from the marines's side who was trully as strong as Whitebeard during the Marineford War, it was Garp himself.
For Sengoku, he did fought Shiki and he had be promoted to Fleet Admiral for a reason, at difference of the Shichibukai nobody get to become and Vice-Admiral/Admiral/Fleet Admiral without the necessary strength to back up such claim.
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> S Tell that to all the profiles on this site that list comparable for that very reason . . . .
Some examples make sense. Some do not.
Some examples make sense. Some do not.
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Prime Garp and Sengoku are 6-B. Their current versions shouldn't scale.
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Why exactly Old Garp shouldn't scale to Old WB? Just because they didn't fought in the present?The Calaca said:
By your logic then neither Shanks should scale, same with Big Mom or Kaido.
Since the only reason the Big Mom and Kaido are 6-B its because of their title, while Shanks only clashed with WB for a moment (which isn't the same as fight him seriously).
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Because they have no feats against the Yonko in their current state. Like I said before, their feats are against Admiral/Yonko Commander tier characters.
Shanks clashed with Shirohige in a similar case to the other Yonko. Kaido and Big Mom are considered comparable to them while Kaido is considered the strongest creature, similar to Shirohige's title.
Shanks clashed with Shirohige in a similar case to the other Yonko. Kaido and Big Mom are considered comparable to them while Kaido is considered the strongest creature, similar to Shirohige's title.
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Are you saying that because they only fought people on Yonko Commander Level, this two can only be put on that level?The Calaca said:
Well, i guess we have also to assume that all the original admirals are automatically stronger than Garp or Sengoku them, since they have actually fought Whitebeard.
That clash is not the same thing as a serious fight, if that is enough to scale then even Akainu would scale.The Calaca said:
You're just scaling Kaido to WB for his title, you're proving my point.
