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Nasuverse Discussion Board (New Forum)

Tdjwo said:
By putting it out of its misery, do you mean the verse getting deleted? Honestly, if the verse gets deleted, then it's safe to say it's not coming back unless someone brings it back after downgrading the verse crazily. Most people don't even want the verse to be tier 1 in the first place.
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Yeah, even outside of this wiki, a lot of people seem to hate Nasuverse being OP. I don't have any stakes over it anymore cuz honestly I couldn't care about arbitrary VS stats anymore (which is why I'm hardly active even though I was around when Fate being Tier 2), but it's pretty wild how many people want the verse to be downgraded. Its similar to the hate Touhou gets but even worse. At least Touhou might be getting buffs soon since a couple of people still work on it, but Fate's all burnt out.

Ironically, from what I've seen however, TikTok/Youtube shorts meanwhile seems to think highly of the verse and they put it around the same as the current VSBW pages of Fate (some MUCH higher but thats just TikTok being TikTok). But those people seem to hate this website so... yeah.

Even the recent Death Battle Cast seemed to downplay Saber and the Fate verse a lot. I honestly think Fate's time in this wiki is done unless someone really dedicates time to it. Again, maybe that G1 blog I posted might help, but no one seems interested, and while I like TYPE-MOON, I don't have the energy or time to buff it or correct it here on VS Battles.
 
ShinyMagicalGirl said:
Yeah, even outside of this wiki, a lot of people seem to hate Nasuverse being OP. I don't have any stakes over it anymore cuz honestly I couldn't care about arbitrary VS stats anymore (which is why I'm hardly active even though I was around when Fate being Tier 2), but it's pretty wild how many people want the verse to be downgraded. Its similar to the hate Touhou gets but even worse. At least Touhou might be getting buffs soon since a couple of people still work on it, but Fate's all burnt out.

Ironically, from what I've seen however, TikTok/Youtube shorts meanwhile seems to think highly of the verse and they put it around the same as the current VSBW pages of Fate (some MUCH higher but thats just TikTok being TikTok). But those people seem to hate this website so... yeah.

Even the recent Death Battle Cast seemed to downplay Saber and the Fate verse a lot. I honestly think Fate's time in this wiki is done unless someone really dedicates time to it. Again, maybe that G1 blog I posted might help, but no one seems interested, and while I like TYPE-MOON, I don't have the energy or time to buff it or correct it here on VS Battles.
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I was told that Liam said in the Death Battle server he was using low ends for Saber.

Also I'll be honest, I'm primarily trying to help revise the verse because I'm tired of the older works getting downplayed, and most people use this site specifically for Nasuverse stats, not knowing how outdated the profiles are.

Also with the stuff I have planned (if they get accepted), seeing "tier 1 Ciel can punch out a multiverse" would be kinda funny ngl. I also told a friend off site I'd try and revise Ryougi's profile.

And yeah, most people are burnt out trying to fix the verse up, hence why most older members have left. I don't think any of the people on the verse supporter page have bothered with the verse in eons
 
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I have a question.

Maybe I misunderstood something somewhere, but if the world actively culls timelines to stop infinity from existing, how can the verse surpass high 3-A outside the root if there's a mechanic that contradicts the notion of infinite superiorities for dimensional tiers?
 
Hasty12345 said:
Maybe I misunderstood something somewhere, but if the world actively culls timelines to stop infinity from existing, how can the verse surpass high 3-A outside the root if there's a mechanic that contradicts the notion of infinite superiorities for dimensional tiers?
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Because each one of those timelines are 6d,possible 8d? Like there is no 2-a here.
 
Hasty12345 said:
hmmmm
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I think the Quantum Timelocks and the "dimensional" stuff could use more discussion (hence the cosmology blog talk earlier), buuuuuut at the same I don't particularly care much. The community I mainly hang on doesn't use dimensional scaling unlike vs wiki, and I'm really only here to try and revise the scaling for older entries and argue buffs for some characters
 
Hasty12345 said:
how can the verse surpass high 3-A outside the root
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The previous 2-A tier came from the Moon Cell which is repeatedly stated to contain infinite parallel worlds as seen on BB's profile, so that's the lowest they would go

but why do those 6D, 8D objects meet the wiki criteria of tier 1?
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This is the thread that upgraded the cast to tier 1 initially. In addition, you have Rin's explanation of higher dimensions in Fate/Extra CCC, where she essentially explains that someone with a 'higher dimensional perspective' would view the third dimension as a flat scroll, and the past, present, and future as a book.
 
What do you think about giving a Alive key to people such as the Hassans or the Heyan Kyo cast that possess the same powers as their servant self but without the servant physiology and thus without invulnerability ?
 
Franstel said:
What do you think about giving a Alive key to people such as the Hassans or the Heyan Kyo cast that possess the same powers as their servant self but without the servant physiology and thus without invulnerability ?
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a key wouldn't really be necessary since their scaling would be the same, maybe a tabber in the abilities section at best

but if you really want matchups just say "invulnerability restricted" or something
 
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