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Nasuverse Discussion Board (New Forum)

Wtf could’ve been said in Ciel’s route that’s that huge? Now I really want to play the full game for myself and use this as an excuse to get into Tsukihime after finishing Witch on the Holy Night.
 
The Ciel route has High 1-B cosmology confirmation. This paves the way for Tier 1-A and above upgrades for planet/gods/root, based on various (unhinged, but canon) wank a bunch of Nasuverse writers decided to write outside Tsukihime.

Also, the trailer for Fate/Samurai Remnant was accidently released early:


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Ultra_instinct_issei said:
wassthat?
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TsukiRe Arcueid going BURRRRR to keep up with the new power scale.
DAA's were revamped (and basically are now stronger), so Arcueid had the same treatment.

Luminary (light body/body of light) is what happens when TA royals die while having ME reserves. It's referenced in Kukulkan's NP (you could say it is a straight up Luminary, but Kuku's can't do the Inner Sea/Event Storage/etc shenanigans), basically a huge amount of ME/light that forms a huge body.

Focality is Arc's "Principle" (I can't remember for sure it was called Principle as in Idea Blood/DA, but I believe it was) and allows her to basically break reality/Planck measures in ways similar to what we believe would be the t=0 of Big Bang.

I believe most of it is translated in Beast's Lair.
 
Also, it seems Tam Lin is confirmed Nasu being Nasu. The products released in JP, such as models, had the "Tam Lin" as "translation" for Fay Knight since basically the beginning.

Melusine's visor seems to be a direct reference to Persona/etc-series Tam Lin design.

So, yeah, Nasu is Nasu. Maybe in the future this reference will make more sense, but can't remember anything that has been already released that explains it at all. The fact that the Fay Knights were all base females that were given male SGs and forgot who they were/etc, and all had love as somewhat of a central motiff of their story "kinda fits" with the general mytheme. (Obviously, given a Nasu spin/etc)
 
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There's a person who was doing a crt to add a key for her, but they start working on other stuff, so is gonna be a while until that thread got accepted.
 
ShadowWhoWalks said:
The Ciel route has High 1-B cosmology confirmation. This paves the way for Tier 1-A and above upgrades for planet/gods/root, based on various (unhinged, but canon) wank a bunch of Nasuverse writers decided to write outside Tsukihime.
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Can you dm me the scan of the High 1B ciel route cuz my eyes ain't seeing nothing still.
LehenDuo said:
Also, it seems Tam Lin is confirmed Nasu being Nasu. The products released in JP, such as models, had the "Tam Lin" as "translation" for Fay Knight since basically the beginning.

Melusine's visor seems to be a direct reference to Persona/etc-series Tam Lin design.

So, yeah, Nasu is Nasu. Maybe in the future this reference will make more sense, but can't remember anything that has been already released that explains it at all. The fact that the Fay Knights were all base females that were given male SGs and forgot who they were/etc, and all had love as somewhat of a central motiff of their story "kinda fits" with the general mytheme. (Obviously, given a Nasu spin/etc)
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Nasu being Nasu? What does that mean?
 
Tdjwo said:
Can you dm me the scan of the High 1B ciel route cuz my eyes ain't seeing nothing still.

Nasu being Nasu? What does that mean?
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same.
LehenDuo said:
TsukiRe Arcueid going BURRRRR to keep up with the new power scale.
DAA's were revamped (and basically are now stronger), so Arcueid had the same treatment.

Luminary (light body/body of light) is what happens when TA royals die while having ME reserves. It's referenced in Kukulkan's NP (you could say it is a straight up Luminary, but Kuku's can't do the Inner Sea/Event Storage/etc shenanigans), basically a huge amount of ME/light that forms a huge body.

Focality is Arc's "Principle" (I can't remember for sure it was called Principle as in Idea Blood/DA, but I believe it was) and allows her to basically break reality/Planck measures in ways similar to what we believe would be the t=0 of Big Bang.

I believe most of it is translated in Beast's Lair.
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um ok, but where does the high 1-B/infinite dimensional part comes from? as far as others told me, remake is basically one of the weakest series in nasu and true ancestors where nerfed like arucied's backup only allowing her a finite power which the planet supplies her before she explodes and other stuff.
 
Ultra_instinct_issei said:
same.

um ok, but where does the high 1-B/infinite dimensional part comes from? as far as others told me, remake is basically one of the weakest series in nasu and true ancestors where nerfed like arucied's backup only allowing her a finite power which the planet supplies her before she explodes and other stuff.
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No, the backup part is reversed in logic, at least in Arcueid's case. And everything in the remake was buffed, it's pretty obvious.

From Roa's magecraft, to Shiki cutting the meaning/concept of "corridor" to destroy Roa (probably my favorite scene in TsukiRe), to Arc's Luminary, etc.
TsukiRe is like order of magnetude higher than Tsuki Classic.

She doesn't have to limit her power because she has a Body. The body is the limitation to the power itself (and, effectively, this means the entire mana of the planet itself is inside her, the mana that gives birth to the World and etc, and that's the reason her principle is Focality, the capacity to condensate things to a point) - for similar reason's that you can suffocate Servants even though they do not use oxygen or require breathing, the fact the body exists as a physical entity makes it so she conforms to some rules. To explain this entirely I would have to copy paste the novel, so it's probably better for you to read directly from the VN.

I don't know exactly the logic they are trying to use, but I would guess it has to have something to do to Arc. Arc vs Ciel fight was a very nice fight.
 
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I think Shiki Tohno is probably a top 10 in the verse now tbh
LehenDuo said:
No, the backup part is reversed in logic, at least in Arcueid's case. And everything in the remake was buffed, it's pretty obvious.

From Roa's magecraft, to Shiki cutting the meaning/concept of "corridor" to destroy Roa (probably my favorite scene in TsukiRe), to Arc's Luminary, etc.
TsukiRe is like order of magnetude higher than Tsuki Classic.

She doesn't have to limit her power because she has a Body. The body is the limitation to the power itself (and, effectively, this means the entire mana of the planet itself is inside her, the mana that gives birth to the World and etc, and that's the reason her principle is Focality, the capacity to condensate things to a point) - for similar reason's that you can suffocate Servants even though they do not use oxygen or require breathing, the fact the body exists as a physical entity makes it so she conforms to some rules. To explain this entirely I would have to copy paste the novel, so it's probably better for you to read directly from the VN.

I don't know exactly the logic they are trying to use, but I would guess it has to have something to do to Arc. Arc vs Ciel fight was a very nice fight.
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BestMGQScalerEver said:
I think Shiki Tohno is probably a top 10 in the verse now tbh
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Only problem is that he isn't Ryougi, and being only a Human that isn't a Mystery, had to basically self-destruct to do the feat. Ryougi cuts concepts/meaning as naturally as breathing, Shiki has to basically "kill" himself (as a living human) to cut anything that isn't a living being.
But it is one of the best scenes in my opinion.
 
LehenDuo said:
Only problem is that he isn't Ryougi, and being only a Human that isn't a Mystery, had to basically self-destruct to do the feat. Ryougi cuts concepts/meaning as naturally as breathing, Shiki has to basically kill himself to cut anything that isn't a living being.
But it is one of the best scenes in my opinion.
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shiki cuts inanimate objects all the time in tsuki, ryougi is limited to what she considers alive, shiki isnt
 
LehenDuo said:
Only problem is that he isn't Ryougi, and being only a Human that isn't a Mystery, had to basically self-destruct to do the feat. Ryougi cuts concepts/meaning as naturally as breathing, Shiki has to basically "kill" himself (as a living human) to cut anything that isn't a living being.
But it is one of the best scenes in my opinion.
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i think peak tohno/nanaya is one of strongest tsukihime character apart from archetype. Dude can also kill information and concepts beyond human comprehension
 
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