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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

  1. Ryu in the color page!
  2. We see a flashback of Gaara, Shinki, Yodo vs Matsuri and Claw Grimes! How this Shinki was turned into a tree!
  3. Shinki protected Gaara so he got turned into a tree by a Claw Mark
  4. Back to the present this Shikamaru, Kankuro and Sarada are talking! we see a toad spying
  5. Ryu can uses his Iron Sand from his Claw Mark cloth and sees Code was spying then pulls him out from the Cube of the Shinju dimension!
  6. There is talk between Code and Shinju!
  7. Code goes White Karma tries to attack Jura through his Claw Mark cloth, but got his hand cut off by Jura's Rinnegan laser!
  8. Most of the talk between Shinju and Code is Jura and him.
  9. Code escapes alive via Claw Marks! I think Ryu target is Gaara.
  10. Boruto and Kawaki are talking atop of Naruto's Hokage face.
  11. Last page of the chapter is Boruto and Kawaki!
  12. The two finally join forces! And how will the Leaf respond to the crisis in the Sand Village!?
  13. Amado spying on Boruto and Kawaki talking and remembers the toad disappearing
  14. Bolto says this Amado did something to restrict/hide Kawaki powers? not sure...he wonders how Bolto got that info then the toad.
 
Nobody is taking it harder than Code
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So Jura> jigen individually confirmed. Code somehow managed to take an L again and it doesn't even seem like jira was serious.
 
For Kawaki, there’s a clear rationale behind his struggles (Amado). Besides the hit from the Claw Grime(off-guard), he’s been highly consistent, only taking two significant losses—one against Boruto and the other against Jura, arguably the most powerful individuals in the series.
 
HelloThere1089 said:
  1. Ryu in the color page!
  2. We see a flashback of Gaara, Shinki, Yodo vs Matsuri and Claw Grimes! How this Shinki was turned into a tree!
  3. Shinki protected Gaara so he got turned into a tree by a Claw Mark
  4. Back to the present this Shikamaru, Kankuro and Sarada are talking! we see a toad spying
  5. Ryu can uses his Iron Sand from his Claw Mark cloth and sees Code was spying then pulls him out from the Cube of the Shinju dimension!
  6. There is talk between Code and Shinju!
  7. Code goes White Karma tries to attack Jura through his Claw Mark cloth, but got his hand cut off by Jura's Rinnegan laser!
  8. Most of the talk between Shinju and Code is Jura and him.
  9. Code escapes alive via Claw Marks! I think Ryu target is Gaara.
  10. Boruto and Kawaki are talking atop of Naruto's Hokage face.
  11. Last page of the chapter is Boruto and Kawaki!
  12. The two finally join forces! And how will the Leaf respond to the crisis in the Sand Village!?
  13. Amado spying on Boruto and Kawaki talking and remembers the toad disappearing
  14. Bolto says this Amado did something to restrict/hide Kawaki powers? not sure...he wonders how Bolto got that info then the toad.
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At least give Code one W 😭 or just leave him alone till he gets a power up
 
JohnHendrix212 said:
People really need to focus on things they like rather than attacking other series for having better feats.
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I don't think you should feel attacked over this and act sensitive over disagreements
it's not really that deep
Ryzen7900X said:
no but it's implied by squad 0's statement. "Tenchi" means heaven and earth, so it DOES include at least one of the universal sized realms, you simply can't argue against that. if you really wanna "debunk" this feat you'd better off arguing that the statement is simply hyperbolic, which it really isnt anyway

you just made the point for me. verses with better feats, better justifications and/or quality of justifications, will also have higher ratings. it's true that DB has an excellent justification/feat, but so does bleach for its 4-A rating, which is why it gets that.
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Lmao, Tenchi argument is so poor it's almost as bad as Kurama being a planet buster, a specific kanji with varying interpretations will not get generous assumptions just so you can get Tier 3/2, I don't think there's a single clear statement that says "yeah this structure is universal" or "we live in a universe" it always points to planets but funny how bleach fans love ignoring consistency, I'm sorry if you think Bleach-the verse that gets away with a ton of wank compared to other verses- is comparable to DB's justifications, that's simply false.
 
NeoKingOfLight said:
There is 0 evidence of that.

By Jura, who we can 100% now say is above WK Code, no longer just implication (Again, I can’t read JP though, so depending on what’s said, this about the others could be folly).
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1. Karma was never sealed so karma can never be the factor in code surpassing jigen. It would just be his latent power that is. Hence base NL code>jigen

2. Yeah definitely..sniping his arm clean off with karma activated. Doesn't get clearer
 
I'm glad Neo and Karo agree, but I have no idea what WK not being sealed means. Even if WK is a static boost (i.e not a multiplier) Base NL Code + WK is still > Base Limited Code + WK. The safest possible interpretation would still be that Jigen wanted to restrict Code at his FP.

Edit: Lol at Sparkle and Neo terrorizing everyone with pages of arguing.
 
MinatoSparkle said:
Wdym karma sealed?
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Code power surpassed jigen so his power was sealed right? We also know his karma was not touched or sealed coz his karma remains the same sealed and unsealed. Asides that if amado could really seal Shinjutsu aka karma I'm sure he would have done that instead of giving boruto Byakugan pills. So the conclusion is what was sealed was codes pure abilities and nothing relating to his karma.
So unsealed base code would be above jigen..karma would just be a plus
HelloThere1089 said:
I'm glad Neo and Karo agree, but I have no idea what WK not being sealed means. Even if WK is a static boost (i.e not a multiplier) Base NL Code + WK is still > Base Limited Code + WK. The safest possible interpretation would still be that Jigen wanted to restrict Code at his FP.

Edit: Lol at Sparkle and Neo terrorizing everyone with pages of arguing.
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Actual jigen never wanted to limit code. Code on his own decided to do so.
What I'm saying is if the power being hyped up to surpass jigen came from code himself (at least mainly) and not his karma because if it came from karma then that would need to be sealed or suppressed too. The fact that his karma was not touched but his own latent power itself was sealed means the main reason if not the entire reason he surpasses jigen comes from his latent abilities and not from karma.
And tbh it checks out that everyone that awakened Shinjutsu from the cells they took all surpass jigen. Well we know nothing of present kk though
 
karo_senpaii said:
Actual jigen never wanted to limit code. Code on his own decided to do so.
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Correct
karo_senpaii said:
What I'm saying is if the power being hyped up to surpass jigen came from code himself (at least mainly) and not his karma because if it came from karma then that would need to be sealed or suppressed too. The fact that his karma was not touched but his own latent power itself was sealed means the main reason if not the entire reason he surpasses jigen comes from his latent abilities and not from karma.
And tbh it checks out that everyone that awakened Shinjutsu from the cells they took all surpass jigen. Well we know nothing of present kk though
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I am not disagreeing that only Code's base power was sealed. I am countering that Code's base could have been sealed because NL Base Code + WK was stronger than Jigen. So even if WK boost is a constant, it still would make sense for us to assume that WK NL Code is the version that is above Jigen because that is the safest assumption. Basically:

Let's say Jigen's power is 100 units. WK boost is worth 30 units. NL Base Code is 90 units. Limited Base Code is 60 units.

Limited Base Code is 60 < Jigen
Limited WK Code is 60 + 30 < Jigen
NL Base Code is 90 < Jigen
NL WK Code is 90 + 30 < Jigen

The numbers are of course arbitrary.
 
karo_senpaii said:
Code power surpassed jigen so his power was sealed right? We also know his karma was not touched or sealed coz his karma remains the same sealed and unsealed. Asides that if amado could really seal Shinjutsu aka karma I'm sure he would have done that instead of giving boruto Byakugan pills. So the conclusion is what was sealed was codes pure abilities and nothing relating to his karma.
So unsealed base code would be above jigen..karma would just be a plus
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Ah I see what you mean. I'm not sure Karma is a linear boost though. That might be pretty strongly confirmed if it's still a significant amp for Post-TS Boruto, and if Base Kawaki is Tier 5 (since Karma was a significant help for him against the Juubi spawn)
 
HelloThere1089 said:
Correct

I am not disagreeing that only Code's base power was sealed. I am countering that Code's base could have been sealed because NL Base Code + WK was stronger than Jigen. So even if WK boost is a constant, it still would make sense for us to assume that WK NL Code is the version that is above Jigen because that is the safest assumption. Basically:

Let's say Jigen's power is 100 units. WK boost is worth 30 units. NL Base Code is 90 units. Limited Base Code is 60 units.

Limited Base Code is 60 < Jigen
Limited WK Code is 60 + 30 < Jigen
NL Base Code is 90 < Jigen
NL WK Code is 90 + 30 < Jigen

The numbers are of course arbitrary.
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These numbers are too close to each other considering the gap between limited and NL.

I don't think karma can be that much of a boost specifically codes. We know v1 is a boost but V2 is the main power house but that's not the main thing.

My thing . There are people that surpass jigen. This is not an easy feat as jigen is a power house. Now what similarity do they all share that make them surpass jigen? They were inplanted with shibai cells and the cells augmented and made the powerful.
Now they all surpass jigen. I don't see how code would be the different one and only surpass via karma.

Also when code usually talks about his power differencr with no limiters he seems to not even hint at karma. Like eve when he was making his army snd explaining to bug. He kept talking about his original power as opposed to karma.

Also think about this. If karma is thing that adds to his base power that made him supass jigen instead of going through the stress of limiting himself and leaving his powers in the hands of amado (who he hates), why not just not use karma? That way he'd be below jigen even if it's slightly? Dude seems to hate how his karma is a dud so much
 
karo_senpaii said:
My thing . There are people that surpass jigen. This is not an easy feat as jigen is a power house. Now what similarity do they all share that make them surpass jigen? They were inplanted with shibai cells and the cells augmented and made the powerful.
Now they all surpass jigen. I don't see how code would be the different one and only surpass via karma.
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You know what? This actually makes sense. Cyborgs were all created above jigen. So it makes sense that Code would be above Jigen without WK just like Daemon is above Jigen without Karma.
 
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