Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

[NemesisZorX]

All of this to get hard capped by Uzuhiko's existence ~10x 5-B >>> Hidari >>> Code >>> Jigen >>> Naruto and Sasuke > Fused Momo > Momo >~ Kaguya

Not when it's confirmed that Shibai is a 10D being who created his own infinite multiverse and Uzuhiko shoots him.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

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[Ghostimuscrime]

samlex poppin out at diddy parties


You can call into question whether or not her dimension contains a star, being skeptical and whatnot, there are plenty of instances in fiction of pocket realms have "brightness" or light without having a star. Among other things I don't believe the dimension objectively contains a star, I think at minimum it's like a 5-A space being it can contain a planet and moon, but I think 4-C is like a fine midball. I don't think I'd ever make a CRT against it else I wouldn't be able to argue 4-C Shibai lol and he'd be cucked to like 5-B and that'd suck.

oh gosh
Narutoverse is never escaping tier 5 caps

 

[Samlex1234]

@Arc7Kuroi
Really quickly… this always bugged me, but what is the justification for the Star Assumption in Kaguya’s Dimension? From the last, we do know the Otsutsuki are capable of “artificial suns”.

I personally can do without the 4-C if there is no justification for the star.

I repeat: do not engage. It will only backfire. We need to stop downplaying feats just to gain an advantage, the full truth is always better than half. Don’t settle for crumbs—demand the whole loaf. Now tell me if you use the same 15-year timeframe that Arc is using currently what value would you get?

Oh my days, how long must I repeat myself stop giving arc ideas

 

[TheLav69]

All of this to get hard capped by Uzuhiko's existence ~10x 5-B >>> Hidari >>> Code >>> Jigen >>> Naruto and Sasuke > Fused Momo > Momo >~ Kaguya

Nuh-uh, plug 4-C into the formula for Earth's orbital KE and solve for the mass of the planet

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

No one is giving me ideas I haven't already had.

 

[Samlex1234]

Guys, no one on this wiki should beg for a rating. The platform is here for everyone, provided they follow the rules. If you want to scale a character, make sure your arguments are rooted in facts, because only the truth will stand. Review the discussion guidelines carefully, and present well-reasoned arguments supported by evidence.

 

[Samlex1234]

No one is giving me ideas I haven't already had.

These arguments have been debunked to death. Honestly, this is one of the weakest claims I've seen regarding the dimension. If you're going to downplay the feat, at least bring something new and credible to the table.

I will link the thread that got ETSO 4b in the first place.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

because only the truth will stand

Glad you agree with mine, Slayer's, Net's, Test's, etc scaling then. Since that is what stands atm.

These arguments have been debunked to death. Honestly, this is one of the weakest claims I've seen regarding the dimension. If you're going to downplay the feat, at least bring something new and credible to the table.

Why is tier 4 ETSO downplay?

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Why is tier 4 ETSO downplay?

Because other verses have higher scale

 

[Samlex1234]

Glad you agree with mine, Slayer's, Net's, Test's, etc scaling then. Since that is what stands atm.


Why is tier 4 ETSO downplay?

Well Tier 4 is a downplay
But this is a greater downplay
“Among other things I don't believe the dimension objectively contains a star, I think at minimum it's like a 5-A space being it can contain a planet and moon”

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Well Tier 4 is a downplay
But this is a greater downplay
“Among other things I don't believe the dimension objectively contains a star, I think at minimum it's like a 5-A space being it can contain a planet and moon”

Why is tier 4 downplay?

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Why is tier 4 downplay?

Stating Opinions Or Asking Questions Isn't Allowed Arc!!!!

 

[Samlex1234]

These arguments have been debunked to death. Honestly, this is one of the weakest claims I've seen regarding the dimension. If you're going to downplay the feat, at least bring something new and credible to the table.

I will link the thread that got ETSO 4b in the first place.

Among other things I don't believe the dimension objectively contains a star, I think at minimum it's like a 5-A space being it can contain a planet and moon.

I responded to the original argument, not the current Tier 4 rating. I don’t need to explain why I consider Tier 4 a downplay—that was never my contention in the first place.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

I responded to the original argument, not the current Tier 4 rating. I don’t need to explain why I consider Tier 4 a downplay—that was never my contention in the first place.

You're so defensive after I made you concede in the Uzuhiko debate. I ain't trying to debate trap you rn or anything like that, it's just a question, stop acting like a middle schooler who thinks he's an anime character.

 

[Samlex1234]

You're quite an odd one. Honestly, you come across as someone who just follows the crowd without thinking critically( A Sheep). But I digress.

 

[Deceived3596]

Critical Thinking is when you agree with my conclusions.

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

stop acting like a middle schooler who thinks he's an anime character

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

How am I a sheep when the majority of Naruto scalers have Kaguya at 4-B, and scale the verse to MFTL? My takes are quite literally in the minority of interactions I’ve had.

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

majority of Naruto scalers have Kaguya at 4-B except the MrKs

 

[Samlex1234]

How am I a sheep when the majority of Naruto scalers have Kaguya at 4-B, and scale the verse to MFTL? My takes are quite literally in the minority of interactions I’ve had.

I forgot to put the reply button. I was talking about this guy https://vsbattles.com/members/onebleachhurricane.1804/

I mean I go back and forth with you and I enjoy it, you think for yourself.

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

How am I a sheep when the majority of Naruto scalers have Kaguya at 4-B, and scale the verse to MFTL? My takes are quite literally in the minority of interactions I’ve had.

bro most naruto 'fans' dont even think hes planet level and ftl

4B & MFTL is NOT minority in any reality

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

I forgot to put the reply button. I was talking about this guy https://vsbattles.com/members/onebleachhurricane.1804/

Coming from the guy who thinks he's an anime character, and has done diddly squat for 2 years, comes back just to complain. Thinks he's helping by making a CRT for an outdated Profile Note that nobody literally cared about.

 

[ssgengar]

bro most naruto 'fans' dont even think hes planet level and ftl

This is cap lol at least from what I’ve seen

 

[Samlex1234]

I forgot to put the reply button. I was talking about this guy https://vsbattles.com/members/onebleachhurricane.1804/

I mean I go back and forth with you and I enjoy it, you think for yourself.

Onebleachhurricane, I encourage you to disagree with me, but please provide a compelling argument to support your stance. Simply attacking my position without substantive arguments is not very constructive.

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Coming from the guy who thinks he's an anime character, and has done diddly squat for 2 years, comes back just to complain. Thinks he's helping by making a CRT for an outdated Profile Note that nobody literally cared about.

Dude doesn't even know how to press the reply button

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

This is cap lol at least from what I’ve seen

go to naruto's subreddit or facebook or twitter
some agree yeah but narutos general audience isnt really smart

most of them will scrutinise nearly super high tier you give to naruto because its naruto

 

[Samlex1234]

Coming from the guy who thinks he's an anime character, and has done diddly squat for 2 years, comes back just to complain. Thinks he's helping by making a CRT for an outdated Profile Note that nobody literally cared about.

That’s a solid pushback! I’m glad you came back with such a response. Now, smile and take pride in your yourself. I love this.

 

[Nierre]

anyways.. any predictions for the next chapter?

 

[ssgengar]

go to naruto's subreddit or facebook or twitter
some agree yeah but narutos general audience isnt really smart

most of them will scrutinise nearly super high tier you give to naruto because its naruto

That’s fair I guess, from what I’ve seen which is mostly like ig or tiktok naruto fans will scale the verse around 4-A and MFTL+ using bs multipliers and debunked metas lmao. You know, typical tiktok scaler logic

 

[Samlex1234]

Check out how interactive this page is! Isn't it amazing? Don’t hesitate to branch out and take on new challenges (People). Create CRTs and engage in debates. Welcome to VSBW!

 

[Samlex1234]

Dude doesn't even know how to press the reply button

Honestly, I mean…..

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

That’s fair I guess, from what I’ve seen which is mostly like ig or tiktok naruto fans will scale the verse around 4-A and MFTL+ using bs multipliers and debunked metas lmao. You know, typical tiktok scaler logic

Tiktok is cancer at scaling

trying to reason with them is bad for your brain

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

anyways.. any predictions for the next chapter?

not a prediction I just wanna see Momoshiki on screen again

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Don’t hesitate to branch out and take on new challenges (People). Create CRTs

Where’s your CRTs

 

[Samlex1234]

Where’s your CRTs

I mean by grace I just got one accepted. Same Note that was there for over 5 years. I will take my time to destroy lies first before I start building the truth on a solid foundation. I'm a patient man. Why do you think we can have conversations around the ETSO scaling or not scaling now?

 

[MinatoSparkle]

1) Probably was interchangeable, they tend to add words despite the dictionary not outright saying it due to context supporting sth else

There's a difference between making a contextual interpretation and just blatantly adding things not there at all If I had to translate the English sentence "This guy is way incredibly superbly stronger than the other guy," I could translate it to the equivalent of something like "This person is so much wonderfully magnificently stronger than the other person," without changing the meaning, but if I translated it to the equivalent of "This person is 100x stronger and faster than the other person," I'm just changing the meaning.

2) now for the kaguya stuff, dictionary definitions =/= valid translations, what they say matter, connotations matter and speech tones matter, basically same thing I said before, you need that to put into words instead of checking what it meant directly, also it can become a flawless jutsu makes 0 sense, same with perfection, it is likely translates to 'its the strongest jutsu'

that being said the strongest offensive ability statement might also be wrong I'd probably have to get that checked in the translation requests thread

It doesn't say it can become a flawless jutsu, it says it is one.

All of this to get hard capped by Uzuhiko's existence ~10x 5-B >>> Hidari >>> Code >>> Jigen >>> Naruto and Sasuke > Fused Momo > Momo >~ Kaguya

It's definitely not a hard cap considering chakra's nonlinear nature in many amps, it's a soft cap at best

How am I a sheep when the majority of Naruto scalers have Kaguya at 4-B, and scale the verse to MFTL? My takes are quite literally in the minority of interactions I’ve had.

Uhhhh idk where you go but from what I've seen Moon-Planet level and FTL is the norm, there's even a fair number of ppl that are like "Country-Continent level is best I can do"

 

[ssgengar]

I will take my time to destroy lies first before I start building the truth on a solid foundation.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

I mean by grace I just got one accepted. Same CRT that was there for over 5 years. I will take my time to destroy lies first before I start building the truth on a solid foundation. I'm a patient man. Why do you think we can have conversations around the ETSO scaling or not scaling now?

You quite literally have refused to conversate with me about the ETSO, I asked about your thought process behind ETSO scaling, and you just never answered

 

[HelloThere1089]

I really was late to the party today.