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I just know Samlex types these messages out while laying on a pillow with his feet kicking back and forth in the air. Giggling anytime Arc responds to him.
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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread
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You are asking for too much Arckuroi. Unfortunately, I treat you differently when it comes to information on scaling and stuff, you are a deadly man. Lets have conversations about Jesus, that I can do.You quite literally have refused to conversate with me about the ETSO, I asked about your thought process behind ETSO scaling, and you just never answered
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Bro treating me like I’m a designated hyper lethal spartan, Noble6Kuroi out here rn, but amen Jesus is King
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Out of curiosity
How would yall if feel if Kishimoto DID confirm ( one way or another ) at least Low 2-C Top Shippduden God Tiers ( Hagoromo/Juubidara/Gay Ninja Duo and Kaguya ) to Boruto Top-God Tiers in AP?
How would yall if feel if Kishimoto DID confirm ( one way or another ) at least Low 2-C Top Shippduden God Tiers ( Hagoromo/Juubidara/Gay Ninja Duo and Kaguya ) to Boruto Top-God Tiers in AP?
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Do not get me wrong, I'm still your father when it comes to Debating. The only thing is I'm not a fool I acknowledge your strength.Bro treating me like I’m a designated hyper lethal spartan, Noble6Kuroi out here rn, but amen Jesus is King
“Jesus reigns forever as the King of Kings and Lord of Lords” Amen
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The only debate we had you conceded and you’ve been ducking the run back ever since. I don’t know where you get your ego from, but read a few Bible verses on humility and get back to me.
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I would find it strange but feel some sense of happiness about it
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The only debate we had you conceded and you’ve been ducking the run back ever since. I don’t know where you get your ego from, but read a few Bible verses on humility and get back to me.
Lol I'm a simple person. I respond in kind to the energy you give me, revealing your own true intentions(heart) to you. If you approach our debate with humility, I'll match that. If you bring pride, I'll respond in kind as well, even though pride isn't my natural inclination. Let's strive for better interactions.
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Ehh I mean if it actually made sense it would be alright but it would also make the scaling super weird in my opinion. Like Kurotsuchi scaling so far ahead of characters like Juubito is already crazy to think, now imagine if his scaling stayed the exact same but she jumped multiple tiers all the way to Low 2-C
I’d way rather have consistent tier 6 to tier 4 scaling with tier 2 scaling only being applied to Shibai level characters
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I doubt that they're making things up like that, chakra amps buffing speed and ap is accepted universally, its accepted everywhere, writers, staff, translators, social media but not this siteThere's a difference between making a contextual interpretation and just blatantly adding things not there at all
and while that is an issue by itself, it might make sense to still add the same buff for speed due to the tone of the material, that matters more than what the dictionary tells you about those words, can you try putting both those texts into the translation request threads?
My point stands my fren
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We cant really have a madara vs hashirama counterpart in this side of the wiki without a little zest
TEARS IN MY EYES these interactions are gold
people will show up to attack that and discredit that like they do with everything we normally have, so itll be nothing new
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Y’all mfs argued too much in the last 2-3 days… 
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Ong
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Honestly, this is my main issue with the verse. I strongly disagree with those claim that these characters scale to Momoshiki and Kinshiki. Unfortunately, I don't have concrete evidence to refute that claim at the moment.
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What do you enjoy? Personally(unfortunately), I have a passion for the destruction and creation of celestial bodies and all the science fiction aspects that come with it.
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You don't know VIZ enough
They're literally infamous for faulty translations. It's to the extent that the JJK fan translation is considered more reliable than the VIZ one. And there are cases where they blatantly add statements that aren't in the original text (like the Rinnegan SM Madara>Juubito volume back statement, or Minato~Rasenshuriken)I agree, but it doesn't strike me as right to have the ratings a certain way because it was accepted from a translation specifically noting speed to be boosted several orders of magnitude which isn't correct
You can make this kind of argument in a CRT, but just letting a rating from a mistranslation stay without discussion isn't good.
Not really? Your point was that something can't become flawless, I'm saying that that simply is its state
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there is only one reason why I think people might think kaguya is low2c with ETSO. It's simple at the beginning she had to warp the naruto world (universe) with hers for them to first go to the lava dimension. Considering both of them are both Coordinates in space-time they would have to be similar in size for the switch to happen. Which would then imply her dimensions are of comparable size to the naruto universe so from there destroying any of her space-time would be low2c. The argument has holes but asides this one I'm not sure if any other makes a shred of sense.
Also, the creating of artificial light source argument always seemed weird to me. For one most people that claim this also claim she did not create the dimension. It's fine to say that but if you think about the purpose of the dimensions then the artificial sun would just be extreme stupidity and waste of chakra.
Hamura made one with his clan and he made it coz well he and his family were going to live there so not having a light source would suck. But what would be kaguya's reasoning for going to like 3 or 4 of her dimensions and hanging artificial light there? she doesn't live there and the job of the dimensions are battle strategy with one of her biggest advantages being the disorientation of the switch. Why then would she go ahead to make it as homely as possible. That the dimension came as it is with a sun, two moons in some and so on makes more sense to me than it came, and she decided to start wasting enormous chakra hanging light bulbs
Also, the creating of artificial light source argument always seemed weird to me. For one most people that claim this also claim she did not create the dimension. It's fine to say that but if you think about the purpose of the dimensions then the artificial sun would just be extreme stupidity and waste of chakra.
Hamura made one with his clan and he made it coz well he and his family were going to live there so not having a light source would suck. But what would be kaguya's reasoning for going to like 3 or 4 of her dimensions and hanging artificial light there? she doesn't live there and the job of the dimensions are battle strategy with one of her biggest advantages being the disorientation of the switch. Why then would she go ahead to make it as homely as possible. That the dimension came as it is with a sun, two moons in some and so on makes more sense to me than it came, and she decided to start wasting enormous chakra hanging light bulbs
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Hey, guys, totally random question, not serious or anything, let's say, hypothetically, I managed to grow a Juubi, first in, let's say, my basement, then in a forest outside my house, then had it hide underground or in the ocean for a bit, and it matured to a point where I could become a Jinchuuriki, and I managed to awaken the Rinne-Sharingan. Some hypothetical scenario like that.
My question is, if I used the Infinite Tsukuyomi, considering that I'm the one who used the Genjutsu, could I choose to release specific people?
My question is, if I used the Infinite Tsukuyomi, considering that I'm the one who used the Genjutsu, could I choose to release specific people?
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yes
Actually no coz I will appear and stab you in the back and say "wrong slendveny, you're not the Saviour of the world"
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Upgrade for Kaguya Otsutsuki to Multi-solar system 4-A.
- Upgrade Kaguya Otsutsuki to 4-A Kaguya is at least at the level of a solar system or higher, as a Multi-Solar System level. Fans often underestimate the power of the Naruto verse to planetary levels, so I will first prove that Kaguya should be at the solar system level. [...
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You're Zetsu?
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Sheesh. He should have been patient. He didn't even address the argument that the attack takes 15 years.Upgrade for Kaguya Otsutsuki to Multi-solar system 4-A.
- Upgrade Kaguya Otsutsuki to 4-A Kaguya is at least at the level of a solar system or higher, as a Multi-Solar System level. Fans often underestimate the power of the Naruto verse to planetary levels, so I will first prove that Kaguya should be at the solar system level. [...vsbattles.com
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Damage was done…
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Yeah right, I forgot, and that's like relying on the same evidence they won't accept. I have to find another topic
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I mean not to discredit the CRT, but what is this argument below?
“Honestly, claiming that the combined Dimensions of Kaguya are only at Multi-Solar System size is underestimating her because Kaguya can create as many as she wants, showing that she can create even more at will.“
Where is your evidence that Kaguya created her dimensions?
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I just skimmed through the last few pages and I'm so confused. Did y'all start powerscaling Jesus or sumn?
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Lol, power scale Jesus? That is Blasphemy. I was simply trying to preach the good news to Arc.
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you cannot group VIZ as one malicious organisation that intends on plaguing anime with invalid translations, a lot of the major issues that used to exist in the early days dont exist anymore, the person that translated sakura's novel is Jocelyne Allen and they have experience of working in THOUSANDS of similar projects for years, it's absolutely disrespectful to say they don't know what they're talking about just because someone other person from years ago made some mistakesYou don't know VIZ enough
We can let the translators from this forum decide if it's downright invalid or makes sense because machine translations or dictionary definition checking can never disprove human translators
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Man we need to do something about these people, I don't want the topic repeated so many times with improper proofs and annoying the mods to the point of them not taking actual valid crts seriouslyUpgrade for Kaguya Otsutsuki to Multi-solar system 4-A.
- Upgrade Kaguya Otsutsuki to 4-A Kaguya is at least at the level of a solar system or higher, as a Multi-Solar System level. Fans often underestimate the power of the Naruto verse to planetary levels, so I will first prove that Kaguya should be at the solar system level. [...
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All Imma say is while I pretty much stopped debating for higher Naruto tiers until Boruto actually solidifies this shit IN THE MANGA ( god damn it Kishi...Ike.... )
It doesn't matter what tier yall think ETSO is
The idea that it takes 15 years before it finally finishes goes makes no ******* sense cause Kaguya would not use an attack that would take DECADES to fire off if she trying to kill Naruto and Sasuke and get away
Like it doesn't even make sense narratively as a baseline
At MOST it should not take more than a few minutes, even trying to say hours is just dumb asf lmfao
I ain't calling you dumb mind you but I just hate this argument of "we have no timeframe for ETSO" so ******* much everytime I hear it
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Not a single person actually believes that the ETSO would've taken 15 years to finish its process of erasing/recreating the dimension.All Imma say is while I pretty much stopped debating for higher Naruto tiers until Boruto actually solidifies this shit IN THE MANGA ( god damn it Kishi...Ike.... )
It doesn't matter what tier yall think ETSO is
The idea that it takes 15 years before it finally finishes goes makes no ******* sense cause Kaguya would not use an attack that would take DECADES to fire off if she trying to kill Naruto and Sasuke and get away
Like it doesn't even make sense narratively as a baseline
At MOST it should not take more than a few minutes, even trying to say hours is just dumb asf lmfao
I ain't calling you dumb mind you but I just hate this argument of "we have no timeframe for ETSO" so ******* much everytime I hear it
But it's not about what we believe. It's about what we can prove. When making a calculation, we can't just arbitrarily assume that it would take 30 seconds, a minute, an hour, etc.
This is exactly why Arc went with the bare minimum timeframe he could actually prove. But Arc and the rest of us are woefully aware of the fact that it's an extremely lowballed time frame.
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unless im misunderstanding, the ETSO calc calculates the energy she puts into the ETSO PER SECOND, which puts the calc at 5-B. Which is more than enough to defeat Team 7.
The overtime value is how much energy she would've stored by the time of the MomoKin invasion. Its a lowball, but its leagues better than just unknown. I genuinely don't get the confusion.
The overtime value is how much energy she would've stored by the time of the MomoKin invasion. Its a lowball, but its leagues better than just unknown. I genuinely don't get the confusion.
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I genuinely don't think most users here get that. I have seen people say "Hmm, a 5 min window seems good enough" then proceed to never substantiate why.
