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I mean yeah the black lightning did have SP Senjutsu.



Well seems you have an answer to your own question.
Yeah, and that Senjutsu SP chakra came from the seal because Sasuke said so. We see when Rinnegan Sasuke uses his chidori katana to slash Madara, the color is not black. So Sasuke doesn't have Hagoromo's Senjutsu SP Chakra, but his seal does. And this seal has returned to Hagoromo
 
No reason he can’t be.

Maybe so he doesn’t rush into a situation he doesn’t fully understand.

Also outside of the final fight with Toneri most of what Naruto does in the movie he does pretty casually.

Not to mention if he was really desperate/struggling to catch up in base he would have just used KCM.
So the very old Hiashi is faster than Konohamaru? Pain, Itachi, and others?

Maybe he was afraid it would damage the village since they were in the housing during the chase
 
Yeah, and that Senjutsu SP chakra came from the seal because Sasuke said so. We see when Rinnegan Sasuke uses his chidori katana to slash Madara, the color is not black. So Sasuke doesn't have Hagoromo's Senjutsu SP Chakra, but his seal does. And this seal has returned to Hagoromo
So, like if I grandstand that Naruto and Sasuke don't have SP chakra anymore, why does that matter?
 
So the very old Hiashi is faster than Konohamaru? Pain, Itachi, and others?
There’s no real reason he can’t be. Being old doesn’t mean you’re automatically slower than other younger characters. Ex. Oonoki

also where did you get Teen Konohamaru > Itachi, Pain, etc from?
Maybe he was afraid it would damage the village since they were in the housing during the chase
That too. There’s a lot Naruto could benefit from tailing close behind to see where they would take Hinata anyways. It’s not like there’s a direct statement that he was moving at top speeds.
 
So, like if I grandstand that Naruto and Sasuke don't have SP chakra anymore, why does that matter?
Doesn't this mean they are weaker than their teen counterparts?

Teen version : SPSM + KCM2 50% Kurama + shards of other Bijuu chakra + 50% of Hagoromo's Chakra

Adult version : SPSM + KCM2 100% Kurama + shards of other Biju chakra (-50% Hagoromo's Chakra)

The chakra that hagoromo gave them can make a chibaku tensei the size of a moon, they lose half of that power (50%) for Naruto and Sasuke respectively
 
Doesn't this mean they are weaker than their teen counterparts?

Teen version : SPSM + KCM2 50% Kurama + shards of other Bijuu chakra + 50% of Hagoromo's Chakra

Adult version : SPSM + KCM2 100% Kurama + shards of other Biju chakra (-50% Hagoromo's Chakra)

The chakra that hagoromo gave them can make a chibaku tensei the size of a moon, they lose half of that power (50%) for Naruto and Sasuke respectively
No because you aren't accounting for how strong Naruto is by himself. Adult Naruto can simply be stronger than his teen self and cover that difference
 
The Moon feat wasn't even their full power bruh

They did that shit while tired off their asses and super casually no less

They literally just high fived 💀
 
Doesn't this mean they are weaker than their teen counterparts?

Teen version : SPSM + KCM2 50% Kurama + shards of other Bijuu chakra + 50% of Hagoromo's Chakra

Adult version : SPSM + KCM2 100% Kurama + shards of other Biju chakra (-50% Hagoromo's Chakra)

The chakra that hagoromo gave them can make a chibaku tensei the size of a moon, they lose half of that power (50%) for Naruto and Sasuke respectively
You forgot the opportunity for a decade of training before Naruto became Hokage and started slacking.
 
Naruto from the Last =/= Adult Naruto. I was talking about Adult Naruto. Idrc where you got base Naruto from the Last at.
Isn't there a few years gap between the end of Shippuden and The Last? and base Naruto speed is still on par with old Hiashi, Sai, Shikamaru, and others, even though he's been practicing since the end of Shippuden until The Last
 
Isn't there a few years gap between the end of Shippuden and The Last? and base Naruto speed is still on par with old Hiashi, Sai, Shikamaru, and others, even though he's been practicing since the end of Shippuden until The Last
THere's like 1-2 years between EoS and the Last, but there's like over a decade between the Last and Boruto
 
But Sakura and Shin on par with Adult Sasuke. So they can be on par with Fused Momoshiki? I mean Momoshiki who have eaten Kinshiki
Sakura and Shin could fight alongside Rusty Naruto and Weakened Sasuke in terms of speed not them at near full power like in the Fused Momo fight.
 
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