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Would y'all say that any Naruto character can damage Mahito since chakra is partially based on the spirit?
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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread
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He also has his Water Wave. And he can combine that with his Raiton JutsusSo right now, Boruto’s only true “Ranged” options are:
While his Extended Close Range Options are:
- Vanishing Rasengan (No killing Power)
- Thunderbolt
- Thunderclap Arrow
- Rasen-Dan (If he uses it in Manga)
- Lightning: Triple
I’m not counting Anime only Abilities.
- Breakthrough
- Gale Palm
- Unamed Version of Chidori Stream (Shinden: Stream?
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The hell is that pfp.
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Peak
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You're gonna love my chakra blog whenever it escapes the hell that is my brain and materializes in an actual blog.
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ROUND 3: Base War Arc Naruto (Pre-Six Paths) runs his fights again (Alone). How far does he get and at what difficulty does he take it?
- Yamato (Sparring)
- Tenchi Bridge Orochimaru & Kabuto
- Kabuto
- BoShippuden Sasuke
- Kakuzu
- OM Obito (Itachi Pursuit Squad is his Backup).
- 6 Paths of Pain (Attempting to Capture, not Kill (Naruto still has all Toad Support he did).
- Omoi & Karui
- Post-Kakashi Fight FKS Sasuke (Is Poisoned)
- Kurama (W/ Minor KB Support, Minor Kushina Support)
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Effortless W.
Comes off a bit tired, especially if Manda pops up.
Effortless W.
He's a perfect Jinchuuriki, but he's still coming back slightly more tired if Sasuke pulls off CS2.
A little more tired than before, even.
Obito's booking it, he can pull this shit off. Btw, why do people hate on Itachi Pursuit Mission? Sasuke's part of the arc is so goated.
Anyway, the 8-Man Squad is Team 7 + Team Kurenai, they swam Obito's shit.
I think Naruto could do it, prior knowledge + more chakra + higher base stats, and Preta Path might get dropped if Kurama pumps him full of poison chakra.
Stomp.
Naruto's already super-weakened, but I think he can overwhelm him, possibly.
He's ******.
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at the very, very least, all jinchuuriki could.
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Don't you need soul manip to damage mahito? Chakra, being partially based on the spirit, doesn't really qualify as a soul manip. Also just use the Boruto scan for that now since its less convoluted with the 56 scans of it being said physical and mental of early naruto days.
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How so? Cause I thought I removed the soul manip from them or is it NPI that can also counter Mahito?
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I never understood why the wiki has this view… Drawing upon powers derived, in part, from the Soul is a spiritual energy in part.
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Even, the way it's said in the manga, where it's acquired over much training and experience, doesn't make any sense in relation to soul manip.
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Unless we’re prepared to say “Spiritual Energy” in Naruto is actually just “Psionic Energy”… 
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Wtf is that site's spiritual energy manipulation page, there's no plan jane explanation.Unless we’re prepared to say “Spiritual Energy” in Naruto is actually just “Psionic Energy”…
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So when Kawaki inevitably regains his power how do you guys think he’ll compare to Base Boruto?
He’ll have his true power + durability and regeneration upgraded “beyond maximum levels” + Isshiki hax + Karma
He could potentially be a huge powerhouse that fights more offensively and aggressively due to using his full output of attacks while also being able to tank and/or recover from damage
Though I do wonder about his defensive upgrades since he was still getting knocked tf out in like all of his fights. Not sure how that works really but I’m curious to see to what extent his regeneration was enhanced
He’ll have his true power + durability and regeneration upgraded “beyond maximum levels” + Isshiki hax + Karma
He could potentially be a huge powerhouse that fights more offensively and aggressively due to using his full output of attacks while also being able to tank and/or recover from damage
Though I do wonder about his defensive upgrades since he was still getting knocked tf out in like all of his fights. Not sure how that works really but I’m curious to see to what extent his regeneration was enhanced
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Can't be worse than Lode...
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I think they’ll have him be equal to Boruto in strength & speed in Base. So until Boruto fixes his Karma problems, Kawaki will be stronger w/ Karma Forms (Not Counting Uzuhiko).
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i miss samlex....
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on site prob not, but you can interpret it that way if you want
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Speaking of… Based on Team 10 vs the Claw Grimes, we know they are basically fodder. Therefore, Sasuke being in this state has to be contributed to Code. Can we legitimately say:
- Base Boruto (w/o Uzuhiko) ~ Base Limitless Code >= Rinnegone Sasuke ~ EoNNG Borushiki ~ True Essence Kawaki
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Shouldn't Base Code already have a value near that, since Karma Code > Jigen, despite Jigen having V2?
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Idk, at this point I’m trying to find something “concrete” that I can also argue to someone outside of the wiki.
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So let’s be honest here because this brings up an interesting point… Is Yin Chakra “Spiritual Energy” or “Psionic Energy”?
MinatoSparkle
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I don't think Rinnegone Sasuke scales to EoNNG Borushiki unless you use Code scaling
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Soul manip is probably coming back in some shape or form later, but I wasn't really talking about what's currently on the profiles.
All it takes to hurt Mahito is being able to perceive the contours of the soul in JJK. The in-verse reason for Yuji being able to was his status as a vessel of a reincarnated sorcerer (Sukuna).
Bijuu and their Jinchuuriki have an extremely similar "Mind and Soul coexisting in the same body" connection that Yuji has with Sukuna, which is what gives him the power to hurt Mahito.
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To be fair that form of momoshiki was low on chakra too. Boruto had just been severely pummeled by ishikki and could not even move so he was in a terrible state prior. Plus momo probably expended more chakra to heal his body back to normal. Plus it's not some proportional amp that you can write off 2%. I'm not even sure boruto was up to 80% as ishikki said "maybe even up to"
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Basically that. Code fight Borushiki had a good amount of chakra and could spam Massive Rasengans (and absorb Kawaki's jutsu without worry meaning his state was more stable), whereas Isshiki fight Borushiki was in the same state as in the Boro fight of only emerging when Boruto had no chakra/was down for the count and needed Naruto's chakra to even use one Massive Rasengan.
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Boruto’s bones & bruises were healed by Karma. Sasuke was in far worse shape physically and worried about his own chakra.
Perhaps, but unquantifiable.
He was, according to Momoshiki when talking to Kawaki. Not only that but he was being suppressed with the Drugs, which is why it was only a 2% Bump.
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They were both nerfed and Sasuke was in far worse physical condition. And Borushiki was in better condition than when against Boro as he was able to use Shadow Clones, Vanishing Rasengan & Portals, which we know from Sasuke is Taxing. So it’s definitely far closer than you are making out to be.
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Different Jutsu. Boruto was able to use portals to bring them back right after Momoshiki gave him his body. Yeah, it was after Kawaki's suicide attempt using Katon, but clearly if Katon is enough to give Boruto enough chakra to use Portals, then it's probably not that taxing at all.
To add on to that, Boruto stated that he had no more chakra to form a Rasengan against Boro, yet after they destroyed his core, he (and Kawaki) still had enough chakra to form a portal to rescue Naruto.
Plus Massive Rasengan is a wayy more draining Jutsu than any of those.
Momoshiki outright stated that Boruto had almost no more chakra, so he needed Naruto's to defeat Boro.
He was most certainly in a worse condition against Boro than he was against Sasuke. Not only that but Borushiki's strength depends on Boruto's Karmic progression, each time we see Borushiki come out, Boruto's Karma progression is far higher than the last (this is a spoiler for my next CRT)
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Can you update the votes in your Naruto vs Goku thread?
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What are you arguing about exactly? They were healed by karma obviously but it would expend chakra.
I think you're forgetting what I'm replying to this.
This is what I was answering to. Whether Sasuke was in a worse condition is irrelevant coz I never said he wasn't..all I'm saying is your above statement is not correct.
The right statement is low chakra momo thought he won't go unscathed by fighting injured and low chakra Sasuke so yes I find it impossible for a fully fit Sasuke to scare above momo who is also full on chakra and has further processed 2%. Sasuke only downscaes heavily that's all.
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We don't know if the chakra cost is the same between abilities, but regardless he definitely didn't have close to as much chakra as he did against Kawaki, otherwise he would've used some of his jutsu there against Sasuke.
Plus, Borushiki>>Code>Delta<~Base SPSM Naruto~Base Rinnegan Sasuke>Base Rinnegone Sasuke
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It was this technique that still made Isshiki Question how much of Momoshiki’s Power Boruto had, so it’s not an insignificant thing either. And we even have instances from Obito & Sakura expending enormous Chakra on portals to different dimensions, as well as Kaguya’s own Portal thing being stated to use large amounts of chakra.
3 Different Jutsu (Kaguya’s “Yomo-Something”, Obito’s Kamui, Sasuke’s Rinnegan) all have Large Chakra Requirements to open portals to different Dimensions. Precedence would assert Karma Portals Chakra usage is significant as well.
Disagree and that’s a faulty comp as Vastly more Naruto Chakra had the same affect. The context wasn’t the quantity of chakra needed to awaken Boruto, it was just that Absorbing ANY Chakra at that time would induce Boruto to Wake up.
I’ll reread the Fight Chapters and get back to you on this one.
This has no bearing on the Sasuke situation in which Borushiki is clearly > Boro Fight Borushiki. Again, the context wasn’t in regards to Quantity it was having him absorb ANY chakra would wake Boruto up.
Post Isshiki Fight Borushiki =\= Boro Fight Borushiki. Again, off rip he’s using Rasengans, Clones & Portals w/o needing Chakra.
Boro fight Momoshiki isn’t even in question… My point in mentioning it was to assert he isn’t low on chakra like against Boro, which you here agree on with this statement.
Sure. Post Isshiki, he was 80% as stated by Momoshiki himself. Post the drugs, he was at 82% against Kawaki.
