Naruto Revisions: Notto Disu Shitto Agen

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

@Ragazz

Somehow forgot about the hand-to-hand thing. Will add it.

@Shrek

Lol, it's also a big hassle to me.

 

[ΚΟΜΙΞ]

@Lorenzo
Alright lets see

Making him 7-B would contradict him tanking an attack from bijuus 1-7(or 8) individually

having another 7-B madara would be pointless,Senju sage mode is far superior to regular sage or dragon sage mode

And about not hurting bijuus

he staggered all the beasts and it would ruin his plans to kill a Bijuu as he wouldnt be able to remake 10 tails and become its jinchuriki so him restricting his limbo clone seems reasonable

As for his 6-b susanoo i agree (no rinnegan)

This^^

 

[TheFinalOrder]

Blind SM Madara should be High 6-C+ Scaling from the Biju. Nothing Suggests that he's 6-B while blind. Plus, the Biju striking scales to his Susanoo Durability.

This way, the Biju have Base Line High 6-C+ striking and their Durability / BB woukd be 8x stronger still.

 

[TheFinalOrder]

Also, Senju Senjutsu isn't stronger than the others. Not how it works.

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

@TFO

His susanoo tanked a tail punch from BM naruto whose striking is Small country+

that suggests it quite easily

 

[Lorenzo.r.2nd]

I have no problem with his sage susanoo being 6-b at all. I just think that his rinne's limbo with sm being able to knock down all those bijuu's like seems almost outlier-ish, tbh. he has never show anything like that before, even if he was physically stronger when alive, how could he have become stronger than tsunade with just a stolen sm??

 

[TheFinalOrder]

@TFO
His susanoo tanked a tail punch from BM naruto whose striking is Small country+

that suggests it quite easily

And when was it agreed that BM has Small Country+ striking?

I'm still under the impression we werent scaling Strinking to Durability.

 

[ΚΟΜΙΞ]

I have no problem with his sage susanoo being 6-b at all. I just think that his rinne's limbo with sm being able to knock down all those bijuu's like seems almost outlier-ish, tbh. he has never show anything like that before, even if he was physically stronger when alive, how could he have become stronger than tsunade with just a stolen sm??

He has his and Hashi's chakra combined which is Rikudo chakra and SM and he is alive. He should be that strong.

 

[Lorenzo.r.2nd]

he has had rikudo chakra since he was an edo, so that makes no difference. like, him tanking those bijuu's hits is also kina outlier-ish, since his edo form got one shotted by tsunade, so yeah there's that.. and we have nothing to compare him with, so there is no way of knowing how strong he should be.

 

[LordWhis]

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It's 4.5 X 10 e25 or 1.99 X 10 e25 for just the crater.


Quick Math lesson- you'd never use a no. Larger than single digits with orders of magnitude, that's the whole point.


Also 4.5 X 10 e25 works out to be roughly 10 petatons as I already said in the beginning of this thread.

 

[ΚΟΜΙΞ]

he has had rikudo chakra since he was an edo, so that makes no difference. like, him tanking those bijuu's hits is also kina outlier-ish, since his edo form got one shotted by tsunade, so yeah there's that.. and we have nothing to compare him with, so there is no way of knowing how strong he should be.

Being alive is a difference. His Edo Rinnegan was fake too. And he has SM. That was not real Madara but Wood Clone Madara that was "one-shotted". She didn't do that again to the real one.

 

[Lorenzo.r.2nd]

oh ok, then maybe his durability MIGHT be higher than I expected lol... since being alive makes one so much stronger, could alive hashirama handle a few mins against juubito?

 

[TheFinalOrder]

Hello, since when are we scaling Striking to Durability? I for one support that notion, but when I brought it up first, it was objectively disagreed on, so when did we start with BM Naruto?

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

We don't? It was put there to match his upgrade. If it was up to me, I'd put most of the verse's striking strength at Unknown. Lol.

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

@BFF

So about tsunade ability i went over to Powers and abilities on our site and found only 2 matches

OHK(Orochimaru was gonna get killed by it) or soul manipulation(only reason why is because kabuto said she was the only one who could heal orochimarus injuries which resulted from Hiruzen pulling oros soul from his arms)

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

I think there was a time when someone asked if Tsunade's healing has something to do with the soul. I really don't know.

 

[Ragazz]

@BFF
So about tsunade ability i went over to Powers and abilities on our site and found only 2 matches

OHK(Orochimaru was gonna get killed by it) or soul manipulation(only reason why is because kabuto said she was the only one who could heal orochimarus injuries which resulted from Hiruzen pulling oros soul from his arms)

Mystical Palm Technique: This medical ninjutsu allows the user to speed up the body's natural healing process by sending chakra from their hands into a wound or afflicted body part. This allows the user to heal a patient without the need for medical equipment or surgery, making it very useful on the battlefield. It can be used to treat both external and internal injuries. It is vital to match the amount of chakra used to the severity of the affliction or injury. This requires a great amount of chakra control, and because of this, only a few highly skilled medical-nin are able to use this technique. Kabuto Yakushi demonstrated the ability to use it a short distance away from the target instead of through direct contact.

• By sending an excess amount of chakra into the patient's body, the user can overload the patient's normal circulation, trapping them in a comatose state. Although this is usually undesirable, Kabuto once effectively used this side effect to get Kiba Inuzuka out of his way.

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

@Ragazz

she wasnt using mystical palm against orochimaru or kabuto would simply heal him with mystical palm it also looks nothing like mystical palm

 

[Ragazz]

@Ragazz
she wasnt using mystical palm against orochimaru or kabuto would simply heal him with mystical palm it also looks nothing like mystical palm

orochimaru would be in a coma, which would mean he'd be tsunade's b****. kabuto was not to be expected from tsunade's perspective. kabuto said - she was gathering chakra for an ATTACK. and btw, mystical palm does look like that visually.

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

Kabuto never said anything about Her gathering chakra for an attack
orochimaru himself even states she was going to kill him not put him in coma

 

[LordWhis]

@Whis

It's with Rasengan / Chidori for Sasuke, so nothing for Lee.

You can request Mei's feat if you want. Just post a video or something, I dunno.

I believe Lee was stated to be Konoha's strongest gennin which should put him above Rasengan/Chidori.

 

[TheFinalOrder]

We don't? It was put there to match his upgrade. If it was up to me, I'd put most of the verse's striking strength at Unknown. Lol.

If that is the case, then we have to bump War Arc Obito to At Least High 6-C+ if he isn't already.

 

[LordWhis]

@Whis

It's with Rasengan / Chidori for Sasuke, so nothing for Lee.

You can request Mei's feat if you want. Just post a video or something, I dunno.

What priority should I give the Mei calc in the calc request thread ?

 

[Omimi]

@TFO
His susanoo tanked a tail punch from BM naruto whose striking is Small country+

that suggests it quite easily

he didnt tanked it without any damage sm susanoo was start to crack



so no + for him

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

@Omimi

could be the ground that is Kraking as there is no visible dmg on him(naruto does cover most of him tho)

 

[TheFinalOrder]

Obito needs to have "With the power of the Biju" removed. He has High 6-A+ feats of his own and scales to Low 6-B.

• Controlling and Surpressing 7 High 6-A's (Like Madara)

• Created a Barrier that hurt Hachibi which he also couldn't destroy physically.

Also, Prime Nagato should be At Least 6-B. (Has Madara's Original Rinnegan which are Superior to Madara's EMS).

 

[Ragazz]

Kabuto never said anything about Her gathering chakra for an attack
orochimaru himself even states she was going to kill him not put him in coma

he did say chakra for an attack in the anime, and he said this in the manga orochimaru does not have to be very specific about the way of the kill also to try and kill me... trying to kill can be done in any way shape or form, be it punching, medical overload, slicing, etc...

 

[BlackeJan]

Gotta type this again....

Ok question....Base Naruto is 8-A and SM made him 7-B.....so how come Naruto during the 4th War becomes At Least Town but when he becomes SM he's still 7-B?....sorry but that makes no sense he should be like At Least 7-B+ cause if his Base (4th War) is At Least 7-C then his transformation, which would give him a multiplier (Hypothetically) so Naruto should be higher in SM during the 4th War

 

[LordWhis]

Obito needs to have "With the power of the Biju" removed. He has High 6-A+ feats of his own and scales to Low 6-B.

I would personally love Atleast 6-B Nagato though we might need another thread for the scaling debates it would invariably result in.

 

[LordWhis]

'''Please Help:'''Does anyone know what priority I should give for the Mei meteor busting feat in the calc request thread.

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

@Raggaz

Manga is canon while anime aint

she was gonna kill him with her medical jutsu both kabuto and orochimaru realise that, there is absolutely no mention about a punch,slice or etc

 

[Kepekley23]

Hi guys. I just woke up; shit is hard for me right now.

What is being discussed?

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

@Whis

i would say 3

 

[LordWhis]

Thank You

 

[Omimi]

Gotta type this again....
Ok question....Base Naruto is 8-A and SM made him 7-B.....so how come Naruto during the 4th War becomes At Least Town but when he becomes SM he's still 7-B?....sorry but that makes no sense he should be like At Least 7-B+ cause if his Base (4th War) is At Least 7-C then his transformation, which would give him a multiplier (Hypothetically) so Naruto should be higher in SM during the 4th War

War arc base naruto has 7-B rasanga

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

@Kep

revived madara stats

and an aditional power for tsunade thats about it

 

[Tenshin-Ta]

Are we almost done?

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

@Tenshin

i would say around 99%

 

[Kepekley23]

Is it Acid Manipulation? If so, should be added.

"Revived Madara"

sigh. It's that time of the year again.

 

[Ragazz]

@Raggaz
Manga is canon while anime aint

she was gonna kill him with her medical jutsu both kabuto and orochimaru realise that, there is absolutely no mention about a punch,slice or etc

my point was that she was gonna try to kill him. nothing ever says about anything soul this, soul that.