Naruto Revisions: Notto Disu Shitto Agen

[PaChi2]

@Everyone this is the eighth naruto revision thread. Please dont derail it and stay focus on the matter at hand.

I haven kept up with the comments so far, this is just a petition, not a warning.

 

[LordWhis]

do we all agree on sakura being 8-A during Shippuden?

I do.

 

[Kepekley23]

Also, we consider both the manga and the anime canon, we just consider the manga more linear and easy to follow. This is an unnecessary discussion that derails the thread.

 

[PaChi2]

You're derailing, so you should drop it whether you like it or not.

About this, Im removing any derailment. As I said, stick to the topic.

 

[Kepekley23]

Yep.

Back to the topic, should Madara be upgraded to Low 6-B? He's High 6-C+ via the Bijuu feat

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

So...

- Adult Naruto is changed to Unknow as per Kep's request

- Madara SM gets changed to "At least Low 6-B"

- Base Sakura from Shippuden bumped to 8-A

Is that it

 

[Kepekley23]

Shin will be upgraded to 7-B.

 

[PaChi2]

LAST COMMENT OVER MANGA VS ANIME:

This is not the thread to discuss this. If you want to discuss the canoncity of manga and anime, create a general discussion thread argumenting it. If it was previously agreed to stick to the manga over the anime (primary and secondary), dont bother everyone and derail this thread with pointless arguments. Please and thank you.

 

[TheFinalOrder]

Sorry @PaChi

I hacen't caught up with this thread yet either.

 

[TheFinalOrder]

The Boruto manga is the main-canon, we've already agreed with this several times. It's in the rules, even.
Also, I agree with what Shrek said. Madara should probably be "At least Low 6-B" instead.

That's for Blind SM Madara.

 

[Kepekley23]

I know it is.

 

[Frantzy12]

It was also agreed Naruto would never be sub-relativistic based on a rule, but whatever I guess :/.

 

[Kepekley23]

False equivalence.

Said rule was removed because an actual calculation disproved it.

 

[TheFinalOrder]

Btw, if Madara has Low 6-B Durability, the Biju would have to have:

"High 6-C striking AP".

BM Naruto would get At Least.

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

@TFO

why madaras susanoo tanked an attack from BM naruto

 

[Frantzy12]

And the final reiteration of the Boruto movie will be in the anime with the inclusion of a 3rd otsutsuki member, which therefore terminates all Boruto manga feats involving the Boruto movie(a major part).

 

[TheFinalOrder]

@TFO
why madaras susanoo tanked an attack from BM naruto

If Madara's Susanoo is At Least Low 6-B.

Biju 1-8 would have to have High 6-C striking apiece just to break it. BM Naruto being Stronger than the Rest should have At Least High 6-C striking. Madara Susanoo would still tank a "At Least High 6-C" Attack.

 

[TheFinalOrder]

Actually, after giving it more thought, Madara should just scale to the Biju. The Biju's striking scale from From Madara's Susanoo Durability. If he's At Least Low 6-B, The Biju's striking would be nearly equivalent if not superior to their Biju Dama.

Blind SM Madara should be:

"At least High 6-C, Possibly Higher."

That way, the Biju striking strength isn't rediculous. Unless we're saying Biju Striking Scale to their Durability / Biju Dama.

 

[LordWhis]

SM Madara should be downgraded to At least 6-A, Likely Higher Since if we assume Edo Madara to be equal to Tenpaichi then 1/5x is his power would only be 887 teratons to 1.1472275328 Petatons & High 6-A starts at 4.435 petatons.

Though this calc doesn't take sage mode, etc. into account hence the atleast,etc.

 

[Omimi]

also we need to add combine energy output of Juubi Tenpenchii here

5.6e18 J + 3,3E + 23 J + 5,2e+23 J + 2.4e25 J + 3,6E+23J 1,99E25J = ???

 

[LordWhis]

also we need to add combine energy output of Juubi Tenpenchii here

5.6e18 J + 3,3E + 23 J + 5,2e+23 J + 2.4e25 J + 3,6E+23J 1,99E25J = ???

Ah! We add to add them I just used the 1.9 e25 as a low end and the 2.4 as a high end !

Not that it matters, 1/5 of that will still be 6-a not high 6-a.

 

[LordWhis]

Also, since we have Base part 2 Lee at low end Kage levels I don't see why we can't have part 1 lee at Jonin levels since he clearly physically overpowered kimimaro during their mini-wrestling match.

 

[TheFinalOrder]

Also, since we have Base part 2 Lee at low end Kage levels I don't see why we can't have part 1 lee at Jonin levels since he clearly physically overpowered kimimaro during their mini-wrestling match.

He didn't overpower Kimimaro. That's not even what Drunken Fist is about.

Like I said, Lee has Jonin level Taijutsu Skill, but not the AP. Like Sasuke didn't harm Sakon, Lee didn't harm Kimimaro. I'm gonna bring viz scans

 

[LordWhis]

He didn't overpower Kimimaro. That's not even what Drunken Fist is about.

Like I said, Lee has Jonin level Taijutsu Skill, but not the AP. Like Sasuke didn't harm Sakon, Lee didn't harm Kimimaro. I'm gonna bring viz scans

Kimimaro >> Sakon

In the 1st scan, lee blocks his 2 handed attack with 1 hand, physically overpowers him & throws him off balance before sending him flying with 2 blows.

In the 2nd scan we clearly see fragments indicating 1 of Kimimaro's bones have broken.

In the 3rd scan he is visibly bruised & battered & unable to stand (this is not due to his illness as he appears fine shortly afterwards.

In the 4th scan he is being pushed back by Lee.

Furthermore, he tanks and blocks sevral attacks from kimimaro throughout the fight.

& Base Lee should be 8-a too since drunken fist (or potion punch as this translation calls it !) doesn't increase ap. It is just that base lee was unable to land any hits on Kimimaro.

 

[Lorenzo.r.2nd]

I think Adult Naruto should just be "Unknown'

I'm fine with the rest.

this is just a suggestion, but why not make him at least 7-c? he can now spam FRS, rasengans, and whatnot. since we know that a FRS in its first use was 7-c, lets just make his base at least 7-c...

 

[BlackeJan]

this is just a suggestion, but why not make him at least 7-c? he can now spam FRS, rasengans, and whatnot. since we know that a FRS in its first use was 7-c, lets just make his base at least 7-c...

Though that would make no sense since he tanked his own chakra explosion and was only knocked out from it and that was said to be around 6-B

 

[LordWhis]

@Lorenzo: Not a bad idea.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Unknown is better due to his varying feats. Causes much less problems as well.

The first use of Rasenshuriken was calculated to be Small Town level+. But now that I think of it, shouldn't we add an "at least"? The Rasenshuriken was half powered, iirc.

 

[Lorenzo.r.2nd]

@blacke a person cant be harmed by his chakra, but he can be harmed by other factors such as the heat coming from it, or the shockwaves, so to say that he tanked it is kinda sketchy (roshi cant be burned by his own lava, Naruto cant be killed by his own rasengan, all fire or water release users feel neither the heat nor do they get wet, etc). see what I mean? BUT he did tank a kick strong enough to **** up the chunin exams stadium from momoshiki, so that's a plus right? like, he wanst harmed by it. all it did was throw him a meters away.

 

[Lorenzo.r.2nd]

Unknown is better due to his varying feats. Causes much less problems as well.

The first use of Rasenshuriken was calculated to be Small Town level+. But now that I think of it, shouldn't we add an "at least"? The Rasenshuriken was half powered, iirc.

he's stronger than a neji lvl guy (neji's uncle) who done in like he was fodder, so making him at least 7-c is not too bad right? oh, and what happened to the island lvl FRS from 4th war base Naruto?

 

[BlackeJan]

@blacke a person cant be harmed by his chakra, but he can be harmed by other factors such as the heat coming from it, or the shockwaves, so to say that he tanked it is kinda sketchy (roshi cant be burned by his own lava, Naruto cant be killed by his own rasengan, all fire or water release users feel neither the heat nor do they get wet, etc). see what I mean? BUT he did tank a kick strong enough to **** up the chunin exams stadium from momoshiki, so that's a plus right? like, he wanst harmed by it. all it did was throw him a meters away.

Toneri used some weird thing thats absorbed Naruto rasengan (he tried smashing it but both got mixed in together) then it his Naruto in his chest and popped out w/ even more of his chakra which then exploded


Yes a person can be affected by his own chakra since Tsunade forbidden Naruto from using FRS again (was his first time) b/c it was affecting his arm and the chakra in it). the 3rd Raikage had accidently stabbed himself w/ his own jutsu (his own chakra)

True Naruto did survived that kick but then agaon there has been plenty of times where someone in the series go hit from somewhere and they were sent flying

 

[Kepekley23]

@BFF

Yes.

 

[Kepekley23]

Also, we've already settled on Unknow for Adult Naruto. I don't want this to be discussed and clog up the thread when there are more important subjects.

In any case, has Madara already been edited? What about Sakura and Shin? I just woke up.

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

Also, we've already settled on Unknow for Adult Naruto. I don't want this to be discussed and clog up the thread when there are more important subjects.

In any case, has Madara already been edited? What about Sakura and Shin? I just woke up.

Do you know the reasons for Unknow? So I can edit it in.

 

[Kepekley23]

His feats are too variable. He has both Low 6-B and Low 5-B feats. The latter was too controversial, former was deemed acceptable but was rejected because the Low 5-B feat existed.

So we settled on "Unknown"

 

[Ragazz]

adult sakura and shin should scale to base adult naruto and sasuke. so base adult naruto matters. there is one hard feat for adult naruto in the last (a hole in the moon). hard feats > everything else.

 

[Rocker1189]

So why isnt Atleast Low 6-B a viable option? It covers all bases and allows him to be used.

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

Nevermind its locked.

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

Every profile left is locked so there isn't much I can do.

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

Anyone going to finally change No rinnegan sage madara?