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Naruto/Boruto General Discussion Thread #17

First tree
Second tree

Not to mention the size difference between Momo and Kaguyas tree.

it's like you never bothered reading the rest of my comment

fine whatever not a huge deal

im not going to argue about this anymore

im really not in the mood right now
 
If they shrivel up they would definitely shrivel up differently. That is not even a question it is just fact.

Thats like saying if i put 2 different types of trees into a fireplace and ignited them they would come out differently
 
ShrekAlmighty said:
If they shrivel up they would definitely shrivel up differently. That is not even a question it is just fact.
Thats like saying if i put 2 different types of trees into a fireplace and ignited them they would come out differently
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I mean, they would. They would burn up differently and some parts of them would burn before another. Some would fall off differently to others. Nothing would be the same.
 
ShrekAlmighty said:
They would both come out as ash what are you even talking about?
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Yeah but shriveled up trees do not shrivel into ash. They would not shrivel up and look exactly the same. And really I did not think you meant thoroughly burn them since I was equating them to being shriveled up.
 
Shriveling up would be exactly the same in its essence as its a same process IE branches would fall of and it would become generally smaller, both happened to both trees.
 
Burning Full Fingers said:
You guys think TSBs can be absorbed or reflected? It didn't seem like that in the manga.
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Probabaly not, with them being made of all chakra nature and literally doing the absorbing themselves.
 
Rocker1189 said:
@ Shadow
It's cool dude. No point in getting heated over this. There would aleays be disagreements.
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im not angry lol i just feel like we going in circles and i just dont feel like debating it anymore as i really dont feel up to it. i just havent been feeling well these last few weeks so i might sound as if im coming off moody or angry but thats not my intention
 
Except when he see him do that, strike Kinshiki with a Chidori sword strike.

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Proof of her absorbing their power into her. If she went to the extent of creating an army then stealing the power of her children as you claim to fight both of them, already means she knew she could not take them on by herself.

Except for the fact that you said she wished to absorb them. Which means she was already going to amplify herself even after being boosted via the chakra fruit, and she STILL wished to create an army. And if she didn't intend to absorb them, why would they be a non-factor in her plans? They were never against her till they discovered her usage of the Mugen Tsukuyomi, meaning that she had intended to have them help her against M&S had they not rebelled. Sure Kinshiki is good for that, that still makes Momoshiki a greater threat

Kaguya has better feats against weaker Naruto and Sasuke. Momoshiki fought a Naruto and Sasuke who are stronger not only via plot but by feats as well, he would've Molly whomped the War Arc versions had they battled him. Momoshiki has better feats via story and plot. He made Kaguya shit herself so much the fear of him coming back forced her to make an army to battle him. She's eaten literally one chakra fruit. He's probably eaten dozens over the thousands of years he's lived

And, what stops Momoshiki from, you know, literally eating Hagoromo when he realizes how much monstrous chakra he has?
 
Momoshiki would likely lose to Madara,hogoromo and such, not because his weaker but because those characters affectively use their hax
 
@BMW

Exactly. He never intended to cut him or stab through him. Except Sasuke's now a fool to try something that didn't work on a much weaker opponent on a stronger opponent at such a vital time?

Are you not getting what I'm saying? I'm saying Kaguya gathering a large amount of fodder Zetsu is simply as a form of precaution as she doesn't know how strong Momoshiki and Kinshiki would be by the time they got to the Naruto world. It doesn't matter if she had absorbed Hagoromo, Hamura, Naruto, Sasuke, etc. She would still create those Zetsu like she should logically, as she doesn't know what Momoshiki and Kinshiki are up to or their battle potential. It's quite simple.

Cool. The Kaguya that was stronger than them is also weaker than her prime state. He has no better feats. And he wouldn't have "Molly whomped" anybody for sure. He couldn't beat a Naruto and Sasuke that didn't bring out the big guns, and when they combined Kurama and Susano'o, they smacked him down a peg.

Sure, so he can suddenly eat people anyhow he wants, and Momoshiki vs Kaguya was implied to be a great battle, and not "Nope, I'm just gonna eat you now" from either of them? Something's wrong there.

Hagoromo still outhaxxes. Hagoromo has quite a few ways to put him down than the other way around. Add Hamura's Tenseigan hax and their superior amount of chakra + Momoshiki having no resistance to TSBs, and Momoshiki is going to sing various songs of sorrow.
 
Shadowbokunohero said:
Momoshiki would likely lose to Madara,hogoromo and such, not because his weaker but because those characters affectively use their hax
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And he has shit amount of chakra. I'd fancy Hamura against him, because the orb would drain all of his chakra at once.
 
Shadowbokunohero said:
im not angry lol i just feel like we going in circles and i just dont feel like debating it anymore as i really dont feel up to it. i just havent been feeling well these last few weeks so i might sound as if im coming off moody or angry but thats not my intention
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Oh cool then, my bad. Hope you get well.
 
the point I was trying to make isn't that Momoshiki is a better fighter than everyone but he possesses in DBZ terms the most power outside of Kaguya ETSB.

 
kaguya's God Tree = almost infinit chakra

momo'sGod Tree =cant even use a jutsu without absorbing others chakra or eating chakra pill
 
Omimi said:
kaguya's God Tree = almost infinit chakra
momo'sGod Tree =cant even use a jutsu without absorbing others chakra or eating chakra pill
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baseless. it was never infinite

him not using jutsu is fault on his skill not power
 
Momoshiki didint want Kaguya's chakra just because it was stronger than his. He wanted it because it was her job to send all of the chakra she got from Earth back to the clan but she didnt. You guys should know this, no where in the manga, Light Novel, Movie or anime has it been implied that Kaguya's chakra fruit were stronger than all the ones Momoshiki has eaten. The fact that his Divine Trees leaves the planets dead pretty much proves that his Chakra Fruits were ripe unlike Kaguya's fruit. Also the fact that Momoshiki was in a form where he had more dojutsu then Kaguya as well. It seems that if you absorb more chakra fruits, or people who have eaten chakra fruits (Kinshiki) you get extreme amounts of power. Momoshiki had 5 dojutsu and they were all different while one was on the verge of become a Rinnesharingan.

Also im pretty sure Kaguya had a good idea how strong her fellow clan members were if she knew who the exact 3 were that were coming.
 
Momoshiki was still battle ready while getting defeated by Sasuke and Naruto in their Kurama Susanno form as well. The fact that he had so much power left proves that he was still stronger than them. Naruto and Sasuke were literally about to bite the dust if Boruto hadnt have stepped in. Naruto was about to meet his death bed early lol.


We really need to do something about scaling resistances to abilities for God Tiers in the Naruto verse as well.

I also believe that no feat from Naruto and Sasuke should scale back to Momoshiki. Not because they have gotten stronger but if they just happen to use Ninjutsu and get way better feats than they have it just means that Naruto and Sasuke would have owned Momoshiki with Ninjutsu. In other words there Ninjutsu has always been that strong they just were nerfed back in the fight with Momo and Kishi used that as chance to show Boruto that Taijutsu is just as important as Ninjutsu maybe even more important since Momoshiki got overwhelmed by Taijutsu
 
@Shadow

How?

@Astral

He only survived the attack. He wasn't ready for battle until he absorbed ninjutsu again. Also, notice that Sasuke didn't use Preta Path. Lol.
 
Sasuke absorbing too much sage chakra from Momoshiki would have turned him to stone lol. Also we really need to add on momoshiki's profile or something or give him atleast planet tier because if he can get that much chakra from the Ninja tools that means his rinnegan amplication is insane when he could make a jutsu that was about to kill everyone and could make a gigantic rasengan or TBB that could clash with Boruto's rasengan.

als we need your opinion on the 7A thread cause we seem to have everyone that scales
 
What sage chakra? Also, that's for toad senjutsu and it's shown that it happens if it's directly from the user. Plus God Tiers don't seem to be affected by this...
 
After reading back through the manga fight with Momoshiki we can go ahead and make his clarvoyance battle ready and give him time stop since we were gonna give it to him for the same reasons as the manga but only limited.
 
All clan members have senjutsu. Kaguya, Hag and Hamura and everyone of the others. It was also stated in the light novel that Momoshiki has senjutsu since he as well has the black chakra rods which im also wondering why we havent given him the other Rinnegan abilities along. Momoshiki was also absorbing Kurama's chakra which is fused with Hag's sosp chakra. Thats why he has it
 
Absorbing the chakra of someone with senjutsu doesn't give you senjutsu. Momoshiki didn't even show the basic thing senjutsu gives, which is a sixth sense i.e extrasensory perception.
 
im so dumb man lmao. I always forget the most simple answer. Wanna know how he has senjutsu and natural energy??? He has eaten tons of chakra fruits. Me and you both know what chakra fruits are made from and where they come from. Why does Kaguya have senjutsu?? The same reason as Momoshiki lol. The chakra fruit. Man im dumb lol guess we can add that sixth sense to Momoshiki cause Kinshiki showed a sixth sense when fighting against Sasuke and the kage cause he was able to dodge an attack from Chojiro in mid air. Momoshiki also noticed that Boruto had attacked when he wasnt paying attention and noticed that sasuke was behind him after he thew his sword and Momshiki was looking right above
 
@Alex

Lol...

@Astral

He doesn't have sensing. Kinshiki did all the sensing, but maybe Momokinshiki has it. Still quite shitty as he didn't notice an invisible jutsu. Tobirama, Madara, Minato, and Nagato showed much better extrasensory perception.
 
Tobiramam had senjutsu!!!??? woah. Also when i thikn about it should Boruto's attack truly be invisible or was it just plot that Momoshiki with the strongest Doujutsu known to ninja couldnt see a invisible jutsu lol.


Can someone make Momoshikis ability to see the future battle read and add time stop to his profile
 
Can't add that until people decide on it. Tobirama didn't have senjutsu. He just had real good sensing capabilities. Same for Base Madara and Minato, Nagato, Toneri, etc.

Senjutsu isn't necessarily required to be a sensor.
 
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