• This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.

    For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here.
  • We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.

    Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.

    Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page.
  • Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.

Naruto/Boruto General Discussion Thread #17

Don't even mention Kinshiki. Kaguya casually one-shot Sasuke's Perfect Susano'o with her hair, and Kinshiki can't even break through Sasuke's non lightning enhanced sword.
 
Breaking a weaker Sasuke's Susano'o is comparable to his Adult self?

And sure, I'll still mention him, because every media has Kaguya create an army for them. Which still means she cannot take them alone
 
Even if it's stronger than the other one, it can never be stronger than the Perfect Susano'o's sword, not to talk of its whole body.

I only acknowledge Momoshiki, who made Naruto struggle twice.
 
He also tanked a Chidori sword slash and didn't even like, bleed....

SUre, thats up to you, he still made Kaguya make an army while H&H were around
 
Burning Full Fingers said:
I hope you guys aren't trying to say Sasuke's sword is stronger than his Perfect Susano'o as a teenager?
Click to expand...
I mean his sword could not even cut Kinshiki and only made him flinch, just saying.
 
Sasuke only pointed the sword at him and channeled lightning through it to electrocute him. That's what I remember.

Could be because she wanted to be safe, and she never planned for Hagoromo and Hamura to help her. She was always going to take her chakra back once she found out that they inherited it.

Momoshiki and Kinshiki can't take Prime Hagoromo and Hamura in my opinion. Do they even have Rikudou chakra?
 
I will continue to believe that every clan member we see are top tier to god tier until proven weak. We only seen side branch members so far. Every clan member so far has either made a moon, cut one in half, has been said to destroy planet by splitting them, or has the same powers as Kaguya and Sasuke. Otustuki greatness lol

Kara is just the beginning while the Clan is real end
 
Yeah and then she promptly got defeated she is pretty featless.... We essentially have weaker than prime Kaguya and weaker than full strength Kaguya as a page.
 
Burning Full Fingers said:
Sasuke only pointed the sword at him and channeled lightning through it to electrocute him. That's what I remember.

Could be because she wanted to be safe, and she never planned for Hagoromo and Hamura to help her. She was always going to take her chakra back once she found out that they inherited it.

Momoshiki and Kinshiki can't take Prime Hagoromo and Hamura in my opinion. Do they even have Rikudou chakra?
Click to expand...
He channeled Chidori thru it and struck him, didn't even make him bleed. A normal no Chidori sword went str8 thru Jübidara.

Do we have any proof of that? Anyway, it only serves to prove my point, if Kaguya was going to take their power and STILL needed an army for them it simply means she alone cannot take them out

They can, like you say, Kaguya was apparently planning to take their power. If she had to combine her power with theirs and STILL make an army no way H&H alone can take them.
 
woah people dont believe Momo and Kin could defeat Hago and Hamura!?? They didnt even know about Momoshiki or the fact that thier clan was bigger.

Also Momoshiki has feats that puts him above Hag in his fusion
 
@BMW

He did not attempt to stab straight through Kinshiki or cleave through him like he did with Juudara. If he noticed that his sword is useless against Kinshiki, why would he attempt to even use it against Momokinshiki? It doesn't make sense.

Proof of what? It's only logical that Kaguya would do everything in her power to win against Momoshiki and not leave anything to chance. Base Momoshiki cannot win against Prime Kaguya without his absorption shtick.

Kaguya did not factor Hamura and Hagoromo into her plans. Kinshiki is a non factor. All he's useful for is getting eaten and boosting Momoshiki.

Guys, everything Momoshiki did was against a heavily gimped Naruto and Sasuke. You can't compare them utilizing their full arsenal of ninjutsu to using only taijutsu, and Naruto didn't even use chakra arms. Kaguya has better feats.

Momoshiki is stronger than Madara, but would he best him in a fight? That's what I'm trying to say concerning Prime Hagoromo and Hamura. And when you take into consideration Hagoromo using Creation of All Things to achieve Izanagi like effects and his Treasured Tools, well...Momo-chan gets rekt.
 
Prime Kaguya was that powerful due to eating a chakra fruit that wasn't even at its peak.

while Momoshiki ate a fruit that was at its peak and has been implied to have eaten way more, this is exactly the same fruit that gave Kaguya these divine powers.

the only thing Kaguya and co have over Momoshiki is hax.

 
Shadowbokunohero said:
Prime Kaguya was that powerful due to eating a chakra fruit that wasn't even at its peak.
while Momoshiki ate a fruit that was at its peak and has been implied to have eaten way more, this is exactly the same fruit that gave Kaguya these divine powers.

the only thing Kaguya and co have over Momoshiki is hax.
Click to expand...
And yet Momo wanted her Chakra fruit. Chakra fruits can vary on strength. They aren't equal.
 
as for size differences

it's called inconsistent drawing of object sizes

especial when you factor in that they are drawn by two different people

 
"No reason to assume all chakra fruits to be the same"

"there's no reason to assume chakra fruits are any different"

Both of those statements are purely opinion based and have about the same validity so fair enough.
 
Just wondering, would any feat in future arcs scale back to Momoshiki and co? Or are we going to take it as Naruto and Sasuke getting stronger?
 
No.

they are literally the same thing

they act the same

the have the same properties

they are called the same thing

it's far more plausible to assume they are the same thing

the only thing that's different between God tree's and what determines it's power are the amount of Blood and energy it has absorbed from the land
 
Burning Full Fingers said:
Just wondering, would any feat in future arcs scale back to Momoshiki and co? Or are we going to take it as Naruto and Sasuke getting stronger?
Click to expand...
If they are not implied to be stronger then they scale back if they are then we dont sclae back it should be obvious if they get stronger. But that is nearly impossible, the story is not about them so I doubt they would grow in power.
 
Also I agree with shadow here. The best way to make the least assumptions is to say they are the same. Since they have never been said to be different. Using Ocaam's razor.
 
Not really as

A lot of trees that give fruit look rather similar especially when they are dead and shriveled similar like chakra fruit trees when their fruit is eaten

Yea you are correct but just because an apple and an orange do the same thing its not a reason to say they are the same thing

Fruit is a pretty wide category

Opinion based
 
ShrekAlmighty said:
Not really as
A lot of trees that give fruit look rather similar especially when they are dead and shriveled similar like chakra fruit trees when their fruit is eaten

Yea you are correct but just because an apple and an orange do the same thing its not a reason to say they are the same thing

Fruit is a pretty wide category

Opinion based
Click to expand...
But they are both chakra fruit. Said to do the same thing. Saying they are different based on nothing is a lot more fallacious than saying they are the same, using Occam's Razor.
 
ShrekAlmighty said:
Not really as
A lot of trees that give fruit look rather similar especially when they are dead and shriveled similar like chakra fruit trees when their fruit is eaten

Yea you are correct but just because an apple and an orange do the same thing its not a reason to say they are the same thing

Fruit is a pretty wide category

Opinion based
Click to expand...
thats where you are wrong we are not comparing an apple tree to an orange tree

we are comparing apple trees to apple tree's
 
No its more assumptious to assume all Chakra fruit trees are same and all fruits are same, if both Kaguyas and Momos fruit had a name that is not "fruit" which is a category i would agree with you.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

WorldMike2B
Update for Boruto's page
Replies
4
Views
4K
karo_senpaii
karo_senpaii
AlternativePrinciple
  • Locked
Novels? (Nard revision)
3 4 5
Replies
198
Views
16K
UchihaSlayer96
UchihaSlayer96
Tom4t0GG789
Moon Movement 5-B to Naruto-Verse UPGRADE (Let's do this again but right :D)
Replies
3
Views
732
DaReaperMan
DaReaperMan
Her4cl3s14
5-B Naruto (Verse) Update
2
Replies
40
Views
5K
Tom4t0GG789
Tom4t0GG789
karo_senpaii
  • Locked
THE RABBIT GODDESS ABILITY CHANGE (Otsusuki Kaguya)
2 3
Replies
82
Views
8K
karo_senpaii
karo_senpaii
Back
Top