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Nanatsu no Taizai Maybe Series Finale Revision Part 2: Scaling

458.83 Gigatons: Sariel, Tarmiel, Near-Noon Escanor, 2C and 3C Estarossa and 3C Mael

At least 1.37649 Teratons: Near-Noon Escanor durability, Post-Revival Assault Mode Meliodas, True Form Cusack, True Form Chandler, Merlin w/ Infinity, Zeldris w/ God and Ominous Nebula and Ludoshel Possessing Margaret

At least 2.75298 Teratons: Original Demon, True Body Ludoshel, Indra Deriere, Indra Monspeet, Chimera Indra

64.87 Teratons: Prime Demon Mark Meliodas, 2nd Demon Mark Zeldris w/ God and Ominous Nebula, The One Escanor, 4C and Near-Noon Sunshine Mael and 1st Form Demon King Zeldris

129.74 Teratons: 1st Form Demon King Zeldris durability, The One Mael, Prime Assault Mode Meliodas, Post-Purgatory Base Meliodas and 2nd Form Demon King Zeldris

259.48 Teratons: Post-Purgatory Demon Mark Meliodas, Post-Purgatory Ban, Full Wings King, Wild and Demon King Meliodas

518.96 Teratons: Post-Purgatory Assault Mode Meliodas, The One Ultimate Escanor, 100% Demon King, 100% Supreme Deity, Full Power Demon King Zeldris, Demon King Britannia and Wild w/ Wild Full Trottle

At least 518.96 Teratons: True Magic Form Meliodas

Also I actually think we need a CRT on the Demon Mark and Assault Mode Multipliers to get them accepted
 
Assault Mode scales above Full Counter which is now a 3x multiplier so it's actually like this now.

458.83 Gigatons: Sariel, Tarmiel, Near-Noon Escanor, 2C and 3C Estarossa and 3C Mael

1.37649 Teratons: Near-Noon Escanor durability, Post-Revival Assault Mode Meliodas, True Form Cusack, True Form Chandler, Merlin w/ Infinity, Zeldris w/ God and Ominous Nebula and Ludoshel Possessing Margaret

2.75298 Teratons: Original Demon, True Body Ludoshel, Indra Deriere, Indra Monspeet

64.87 Teratons: Chimera Indra, Prime Elizabeth, Prime Demon Mark Meliodas, 2nd Demon Mark Zeldris w/ God and Ominous Nebula, The One Escanor, 4C and Near-Noon Sunshine Mael and 1st Form Demon King Zeldris

194.61 Teratons: 1st Form Demon King Zeldris durability, The One Mael, Prime Assault Mode Meliodas, Post-Purgatory Base Meliodas and 2nd Form Demon King Zeldris

389.22 Teratons: Post-Purgatory Demon Mark Meliodas, Post-Purgatory Ban, Full Wings King, Wild and Demon King Meliodas

583.83 Teratons: 50% Demon King, 50% Supreme Deity, Wild w/ Full Throttle Wild

1.16766 Petatons: Post-Purgatory Assault Mode Meliodas, The One Ultimate Escanor, 100% Demon King, 100% Supreme Deity, Full Power Demon King Zeldris, Demon King Britannia, Hawk Mama, and Chaos
 
When was Full Counter accepted as a 3x Multiplier? And why would we scale Assault Mode as a 3x Multiplier?

Was there a CRT
 
We have two statements saying several times which means 3x. Two or three statements saying over double. As well as one databook entry saying it's over double. Also Damage said 3x for Full Counter is fine here in the last thread. Assault Mode scales above Full Counter as Demon Mark Meliodas is weaker than Near-Noon Escanor who tanked his full countered Cruel Sun while Assault Mode Meliodas stomped him.
 
Also why would Assault Mode be a Multiplier, just because he's stronger than Escanor's power getting Multiplied, it doesn't mean the form itself is a Multiplier

Several Times doesn't necessarily mean 3x
 
Yeah, but thinking over it again, we don't actually know if Post-Revival Demon Mark Meliodas even scales below Near Noon Escanor

Also looking over the Demon Mark statement, it doesn't necessarily apply to power, just because Ominous Nebula's Vacuum was Multiplied, doesn't mean Demon Mark is a guarenteed Multiplier

I got told recently that Multipliers need consistent statements and need to be discussed in a CRT, so we should make one for Multipliers
 
He probably is. Hawk who is obsessed with power lvls was shocked by Near-Noon Escanor's power lvl and it makes absolutely no sense for him to be shocked if Demon Mark Meliodas was stronger. The Sins (sans Merlin) were also shocked at Escanor's power and not Demon Mark Meliodas when they saw him charge in against the fake Zeldris. And going by the narrative it's pretty clear that at that time Escanor is the strongest before Assault Mode appeared.

Though I don't really have any problems with removing Assault Mode as a 3x multiplier until a new databook comes out and reveals the new power lvls.
 
Let's just make a CRT for Multipliers, I don't necessarily agree with 3x Full Counter and Assault Mode Scaling, Also Demon Mark doesn't have an actual statement for 2x

Plus once again, I was told you can't just give out Multipliers recently
 
So I searched for the raws and turns out kanji here is ÕÇìÕóù. So Demon Mark doesn't actually multiply the power it doubles the power. The Wendy multiplier scan says ÕÇìÕîû it's pretty much the same thing. But yeah sure I'll make a separate thread for this just in case. Just not now I'm gonna go to sleep now.
Demon Mark multiplies power
 
Assuming a similar increase, Post Revival Demon Mark Meliodas would be around 103k whereas Near Noon Escanor is 114k at that point.
 
I'm gonna make a CRT for Multipliers, just so we can get all this stuff set in stone
 
458.83 Gigatons: Zeldris (God + Ominous Nebula) > Zeldris (God) >/= Ludociel (Margret) > True Form Chandler >/= True Form Cusack, Post Revival Assault Mode Meliodas > Near Noon Escanor > 3 Commandments Estarossa/Mael > True Body Tarmiel >/= True Body Sariel > Tarmiel (Arbus) >/= Sariel (Solaseed) >/= 2 Commandments Estarossa

917.66 Gigatons: Original Demon

Upscaled to 1 Teraton: 4C Mael > Prime Demon Mark Meliodas = Prime Elizabeth > Indura Monspeet >/= Indura Derieri > Original Demon (Crisis) > True Body Ludociel

64.87 Teratons: 1st Form Demon King Zeldris > Prime Assault Mode Meliodas = Near-Noon Mael > The One Escanor > Zeldris (2nd Demon Mark + God + Ominous Nebula)

194.61 Teratons: Post Purgatory Meliodas > 1 Form Demon King Zeldris durability

389.22 Teratons: 50% Demon King = 50% Supreme Deity > Demon King Meliodas > Post Purgatory Demon Mark Meliodas >/= Full Wings King >/= Post-Purgatory Ban > 2nd Form Demon King Zeldris

778.44 Teratons: True Magic Meliodas >/= The One Ultimate Escanor > Full Power Demon King Zeldris > 100% Demon King = 100% Supreme Deity
 
True Magic Meliodas and DK Meliodas are the same thing, Nakaba didn't know what to do with the power yet so he decided to make it Mel's DK mode. The other seem fine.
 
So this is the scaling based off of NNT Multipliers

458.83 Gigatons: Sariel, Tarmiel, Near-Noon Escanor, 2C Estarossa, 3C Estarossa, 3C Mael

At least 1.37649 Teratons: Near-Noon Escanor durability, Post-Revival Assault Mode Meliodas, True Form Cusack, True Form Chandler, Merlin with Infinity, Zeldris with God and Ominous Nebula and Ludoshel Possessing Margaret

At least 2.75298 Teratons: Original Demon, True Body Ludoshel, Indra Deriere, Indra Monspeet, Chimera Indra

64.87 Teratons: Prime Demon Mark Meliodas, 2nd Demon Mark Zeldris with God and Ominous Nebula, The One Escanor, 4C Mael, Afternoon Sunshine Mael, Prime Elizabeth, and 1st Form Demon King Zeldris (He kinda got wrecked by Prime Elizabeth, but it's probably fine scaling him to her)

194.61 Teratons: 1st Form Demon King Zeldris Durability, Near-Noon Sunshine Mael, Prime Assault Mode Meliodas, Post-Purgatory Base Meliodas, and 2nd Form Demon King Zeldris

At least 194.61 Teratons: Post-Purgatory Demon Mark Meliodas, The One Mael, Post-Purgatory Ban, Full Wings King, Wild, and Demon King Meliodas

291.92 Teratons: 50% Demon King, 50% Supreme Deity, Wild with Wild Full Trottle

583.83 Teratons: Post-Purgatory Assault Mode Meliodas, The One Ultimate Escanor, 100% Demon King, 100% Supreme Deity, Full Power Demon King Zeldris, Demon King Britannia

At least 583.83 Teratons: True Magic Form Meliodas
 
Why do people keep scaling The One Mael to Prime Assault Mode Meliodas when he's never actually shown his capabilities in that state? If anything, it should be his Near-Noon state that scales.
 
Afternoon Mael fought on par and defeated 2nd Demon mark zeldris with nebula+God yet people keep putting Near Noon Mael below him and comparable to 4c Mael.

Pretty sure Near Noon Mael should be the one that's comparable with Prime Assault Mode Mel
 
Near noon Mael is nowhere near Prime AM Mel lol, he literally run away from basic Demon Mark Mel in the flasback and from his own territory.

Prime AM Mel is stronger than Noon Mael.
 
DemonGodMitchAubin said:
So this is the scaling based off of NNT Multipliers
458.83 Gigatons: Sariel, Tarmiel, Near-Noon Escanor, 2C Estarossa, 3C Estarossa, 3C Mael

At least 1.37649 Teratons: Near-Noon Escanor durability, Post-Revival Assault Mode Meliodas, True Form Cusack, True Form Chandler, Merlin with Infinity, Zeldris with God and Ominous Nebula and Ludoshel Possessing Margaret

At least 2.75298 Teratons: Original Demon, True Body Ludoshel, Indra Deriere, Indra Monspeet, Chimera Indra

64.87 Teratons: Prime Demon Mark Meliodas, 2nd Demon Mark Zeldris with God and Ominous Nebula, The One Escanor, 4C Mael, Afternoon Sunshine Mael, Prime Elizabeth, and 1st Form Demon King Zeldris (He kinda got wrecked by Prime Elizabeth, but it's probably fine scaling him to her)

194.61 Teratons: 1st Form Demon King Zeldris Durability, Near-Noon Sunshine Mael, Prime Assault Mode Meliodas, Post-Purgatory Base Meliodas, and 2nd Form Demon King Zeldris

At least 194.61 Teratons: Post-Purgatory Demon Mark Meliodas, The One Mael, Post-Purgatory Ban, Full Wings King, Wild, and Demon King Meliodas

291.92 Teratons: 50% Demon King, 50% Supreme Deity, Wild with Wild Full Trottle

583.83 Teratons: Post-Purgatory Assault Mode Meliodas, The One Ultimate Escanor, 100% Demon King, 100% Supreme Deity, Full Power Demon King Zeldris, Demon King Britannia

At least 583.83 Teratons: True Magic Form Meliodas
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Yeah, no problem with it.
 
Where the heck did 291.92 Teratons come from? Also, scaling Elizabeth to Afternoon Mael doesn't hold up when she struggled with Derieri and Monspeet after they started transforming again.
 
I assume he took half of 583.83 because 50% DK would be half of Full Power DK Zeldris, who said he was back to his prime.
 
There isn't really anything indicating that Post Purgatory Assault Mode surpasses 50% DK since that power isn't what would prevent him from staying in Britannia.
 
Not really the only thing that was confusing was if Demon King Zeldris scales to 50% or 100% at full power. And after rereading it there seems to be more evidence for him scaling to 100% rather than 50%.
 
Biggest question in my mind is whether to scale Post-Purgatory Ban with his ST and King not drained of MP to the same tier as Ultimate Escanor. Didn't they do minor damage? Whereas ST-less Ban and drained King were weaker than DK Meliodas.
 
Post-Purgatory Ban and Full Wings King scales to Post-Purgatory Demon Mark Meliodas. While The One Ultimate Escanor scales to Post-Purgatory Assault Mode Meliodas. They were able to do minor damage to Demon King Zeldris while The One Escanor beat him up in a physical fight.
 
Yes, but in Chapter 328 Ban's ST hits and King's barrage are able to do very noticeable damage, making him bleed all over.
 
They don't have any feats of scaling to Assault Mode Meliodas though. So currently they just scale above Demon Mark Meliodas via actually doing slight damage to Full Power Demon King Zeldris.
 
Before this they were notes to only able to cause slight damage to Demon King Zeldris.
 
Near-Noon Escanor was able to do more damage than either of them. That doesn't mean he scales to Post Purgatory Assault Mode. The same thing goes for Ban and King. Any character besides Assault Mode, True Magic Meliodas, and The One Ultimate Escanor fully scaling to DK Zeldris is wildly inconsistent. The very fact that Meliodas is still able to stay in Britannia after losing his True Magic points to him being weaker than even 50% DK.
 
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