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OK, so I just wanted to make this CRT to clarify what multipliers we'll be using for the series, cause there's a lot and I just want to get this all clear
1. Full Counter, of course as you all know, Full Counter has been stated many times to increase the power countered, originally we saw it as 2x by now the idea that it is 3x has come up and I don't think that's valid, several means more than 2 however that can be 2.1 or 2.7 for all we know and I'd just feel safer leaving it at 2x not to inflate since we have a long scaling chain of multipliers, however that could be contested if enough proof was given for a 3x multiplier
2. Assault Mode has been stated by people to scale to Full Counter based of Meliodas hurting Near Noon Escanor because who tanked his own attack being Full Countered back at him, the issue with this is that Escanor never actually tanked the attack, he straight up didn't get hit by it, he dodged it, and even if he didn't, doesn't he have reistance to Fire and Heat Attacks, which is what was reflected back at him, so I just don't know if we can confirm that Assault Mode scales to Full Counter as a transformation
3. Demon Mark, this is the big one, as well all know there was a statement of a multiplier... however said multiplier was made to signify the increase of speed and velocity of Ominous Nebula, not necessarilly the Attack Power of Zeldris himself, not to mention there are no other stated multipliers for Demon marks, as well, Zeldris already had a Demon Mark activated, he just activated his second one, so the idea that all Demon Mark's are equal isn't true, Base Meliodas to Demon Mark Meliodas can't be confirmed as a comparitive amp from Zeldris's first Demon Mark to his second since Zeldris didn't go from Base to Demon Mark, so I'm not down with universally seeing Demon Mark as a 2x Multiplier since the statement people apply to it doesn't actually apply directly to Attack Power or Defense, it applies to Zeldris's Technique Speed, and there are no other multiplier statements, so I don't think it can be a staright up 2x multiplier for everyone
Pleases let's discuss, I imagine I'll get a lot of contention for these points I've brought up, I'm more than willing to change my mind if people make valid arguments against the points above
Also remember to keep this civil
1. Full Counter, of course as you all know, Full Counter has been stated many times to increase the power countered, originally we saw it as 2x by now the idea that it is 3x has come up and I don't think that's valid, several means more than 2 however that can be 2.1 or 2.7 for all we know and I'd just feel safer leaving it at 2x not to inflate since we have a long scaling chain of multipliers, however that could be contested if enough proof was given for a 3x multiplier
2. Assault Mode has been stated by people to scale to Full Counter based of Meliodas hurting Near Noon Escanor because who tanked his own attack being Full Countered back at him, the issue with this is that Escanor never actually tanked the attack, he straight up didn't get hit by it, he dodged it, and even if he didn't, doesn't he have reistance to Fire and Heat Attacks, which is what was reflected back at him, so I just don't know if we can confirm that Assault Mode scales to Full Counter as a transformation
3. Demon Mark, this is the big one, as well all know there was a statement of a multiplier... however said multiplier was made to signify the increase of speed and velocity of Ominous Nebula, not necessarilly the Attack Power of Zeldris himself, not to mention there are no other stated multipliers for Demon marks, as well, Zeldris already had a Demon Mark activated, he just activated his second one, so the idea that all Demon Mark's are equal isn't true, Base Meliodas to Demon Mark Meliodas can't be confirmed as a comparitive amp from Zeldris's first Demon Mark to his second since Zeldris didn't go from Base to Demon Mark, so I'm not down with universally seeing Demon Mark as a 2x Multiplier since the statement people apply to it doesn't actually apply directly to Attack Power or Defense, it applies to Zeldris's Technique Speed, and there are no other multiplier statements, so I don't think it can be a staright up 2x multiplier for everyone
Pleases let's discuss, I imagine I'll get a lot of contention for these points I've brought up, I'm more than willing to change my mind if people make valid arguments against the points above
Also remember to keep this civil