Chaos Emerald BFR, perhaps? Mori can summon Le Mori Squad but I don't think he's shown to be able to use it to travel to alternate dimensions himself.
Sonic also constinuosly grow more and more power with his AD, in fact that is how he got from high 4-C into 4-A, sonic also has in character speed amps such as the 54x spin dash and boost, or the homing attack
Mori, while in a key far weaker and far less skilled than this one, had Instinctive Action capable of reacting to people over 400 times faster than him (Mach 11 vs >>>Mach 466). I'd argue Mori's AD is better. I know Sonic's is really good, but is it good to the extent of closing an 8x power and speed gap in almost an instant while extremely out of practice and with a body that's basically in tatters?
It made him junp quintilions of times at a second when faced with ultimate emerl, that is how he got 4-A in the first place
How in character is for him to use that? Since sonic's blitz amps are completely in character for to use early on, he even starts with it sometimes
Yeah, that's fair I guess. Will that happen every time, though? Mori's weaker to begin with, so there's nowhere to grow to, really.
His information analysis is incredibly good. A far weaker and less skilled - god I'm already getting tired of saying it - version of Mori was able to correctly someone's power from nothing but a shoulder bump when nobody else at the fighting tournament he was at had figured it out, doubly so because the person with the power was trying to conceal it.
Teleporting via Chaos Control for both, as it can be activated via thought
To be honest, even slowing Sonic down to the point he's easily able to lay hands on him means Acupuncture GG. That'd be 2 layers of paralysis (at which point, concept hax, remove "fast" from his Core Element and dance on him) + Pain Manipulation if he needs it, which Sonic doesn't resist, albeit he does have Superhuman stamina.
Sonic has item boxes as Standard Equipment, which gives him access to Thunder Shield
How often does Mori grab people with TK, and to what extent is the range? Sonic has that precognitive sense which warns him of an imminent attack, which will be useful in warning him of Mori's retaliation to avoid being taken by complete surprise, and even without his amps he has a natural 4x higher reaction speed due to consistently reacting to Metal Sonic's V. Maximum Overdrive Attack and thus has more time to react before he gets Acupunctured. Having fought those who also have telekinetic powers (Silver) would at least make that approach less surprising If it's used against him in combat.
Not resisting electricity doesn't make it a weakness. That being said, Sonic has shrugged off electricity with a grunt before and Sonic can tolerate being electrified while in water by a Color Power-amped Surge. And as Glace mentioned, Thunder Shield is Standard Equipment.
If he grows stronger than sonic it will kick in
Mori doesn't paralyze people with telekinesis.
Mori in a far weaker, basically crippled body closes 8x strength and speed gaps in less than a second.
What telekinesis are you talking about???
The Pain Manipulation is pretty bad, it took a master of acupuncture 17 years of constant training to not go insane from the rebound of his own acupuncture, so I doubt Sonic's willpower will cover it.
Information Analysis. He can instantly recognize weak points.
I was more referring to him trying to straight up crush Sonic with his Yeouis (which he has done before) since his TK only works on Yeouis. They themselves can grow to interstellar range.
See azontr's post above. His Ana-Prediction-Precog has like... 3 layers?
To crush with tk/ls he would need the ap advantage to do so
...no? To crush with TK/LS, you need an LS advantage. Multi-Stellar vs Class M. Sonic is ******* dying if Mori catches him in that, no ifs or buts.
I already mentioned that. He has limited resistance to it, but as I said - if he can stop him to an extent at which he can use Acupuncture, that's 2 layers, 3 if the other Mori helps.
No, this was discussed multiple times, to crush something is an ap feat, so you need ap to do it
Satan's cloning is explicitly much better, so Mori's does not scale.
Got it.
How? Baki characters get LS from crushing rocks. Izuku gets LS from crushing rocks. His TK LS is Multi-Stellar, and so he should be able to apply that level of force carrying his Yeouis. It's explicitly stated here on the wiki that we separate LS and AP because fiction often does the same. Link me any of these discussions you talk about.
Thanks
Wayyyy less impressive than jumping from High 4-C to 465 ExaFoe into 4-A.
Sonic's Danger Sense doesn't need to be strong compared to Mori's for it to give Sonic an advantage, as I wasn't comparing them. All it meeds to do is fulfill its purpose in warning Sonic.
Uh... The one on the profile? It's - Oh **** this is Adventure Era Sonic??? Bruh, the image instantly just made me default to Modern Era. Okay, I take back my TK comments.
Oof, sounds nasty. I have my reservations about it being able to stop Sonic from activating thought-based hax, but I'll reserve further judgement atm.
Omega is already discussing it but I'm pretty sure there was a recent thread clarifying LS at an AP disadvantage can't kill the opponent as well. I'll wait to see if he finds the thread.
LMAO alright that sounds fair then.I jest, but that is a valid point. Info Analysis should cover that, methinks. That, as well as any other weaknesses he may have. Far weaker far less skilled yada yada version of Mori learned to do that with ease so it'll naturally be far more busted here.
Sheeeesh, that's some shonen bs right there
If it's worth anything, Mori has RPL comparable to a guy (Satan) who can go from High 5-A to 4-C, then to 4-B to 4-A in a short period of time. shrug
The point is Sonic isn't going to be able to do anything even with his Danger Sense, because Mori's skilled enough to negate it.
Mori's TK only works on his own weapons, idk what's being told here, but he can't use it on others.
Wild.
By sitting and doing ****-all for a couple hours while his arms were torn off and he had a hole punched clean through his chest, might I add, compared to Sonic who was at least fighting.
I said that, I think Shake just misinterpreted me but he understands now so it's all good.
Yeah, which is an ap feat
Ap fest also
if he doesn't have the ap he would not be able to aply the force in a way to harm or crush sonic
They are separated stats, but an lifting strength feat can give ap no problem, but it would still be ap, could a 10-B rip apart an tier 0 if they had a mojor lifring strenght advantage?
Gonna take a while to find
Eh, Satan went from High 5-A to 4-C by training, but it was literally less than half a day that it happened so still a pretty short timeframe.
Sonic jumped in 1 second before even starting the fight
Can't argue with that I suppose.
Okay, and Satan jumped by literally doing nothing but sitting and cackling to himself while missing his concept and information, your point?
Sonic also did nothing, he just saw a threat, and boom just quintilions of time stronger
