Minor revision towards resisting destruction energy

[Ikelaggan]

Resistance to Void Manipulation & Existence Erasure (Withstood the Destruction Energy Ball of a God of Destruction, which could erase beings, objects, energy blasts and even souls from existence, and warped the World of Void)
I recently help answer a question on topic to why isn't resistance to destruction energy also have resistance towards Soul manipulation or at least soul destruction since erasure is just a higher form of destruction.

Agreed: @godofice @Nullflowerblush @LuffyRuffy46307 @TiltedFN @Milly_Rocking_Bandit
@Tarang123 @Da3ggman @CryoTheMayo @Shubham_Sonsurkar @Reiner @AwkguyDB @Marvel_Champion_07
Disagreed: @omegabronic
Neutral: @LordGriffin1000

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

Resistance to Void Manipulation & Existence Erasure (Withstood the Destruction Energy Ball of a God of Destruction, which could erase beings, objects, energy blasts and even souls from existence, and warped the World of Void)
I recently help answer a question on topic to why isn't resistance to destruction energy also have resistance towards Soul manipulation or at least soul destruction since erasure is just a higher form of destruction.

The answer is that it should also (Should have deconstruction, explosion manip, power null, corrosion inductment, and immortality negation)

 

[SwordLegendz01]

If it does get accepted, I'm pretty sure it's also a Soul Destruction capable of targeting and destroying their souls.

 

[Ikelaggan]

Bump

 

[Nullflowerblush]

since erasure is just a higher form of destruction

Precisely.

 

[Ikelaggan]

Bump

 

[Ikelaggan]

Bump

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I agree

 

[Ikelaggan]

That's at least three votes ye so far.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I will spread it

 

[TiltedFN]

I agree, i think its very stupid that its not considered resistance to soul manipulation even though hakai is treated as an AP based attack and an EE based attack also, so clearly the soul has some resistance so soul manip as well.

 

[Da3ggman]

Pretty hard to argue against; I agree

 

[Tarang123]

Seems logical. Hakai directly erases the soul. Those that can resist the existence erasing qualities of Hakai can withstand the soul destroying aspects as well.

 

[Omegabronic]

Resistance to Void Manipulation & Existence Erasure (Withstood the Destruction Energy Ball of a God of Destruction, which could erase beings, objects, energy blasts and even souls from existence, and warped the World of Void)
I recently help answer a question on topic to why isn't resistance to destruction energy also have resistance towards Soul manipulation or at least soul destruction since erasure is just a higher form of destruction.

Agreed: @godofice @Nullflowerblush @LuffyRuffy46307
Disagreed:
Neutral:

What is this being argued here
Because desteuction and erasure are completely different things

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

What is this being argued here
Because desteuction and erasure are completely different things

Those aren't mutually exclusive

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Agree.

 

[AwkguyDB]

Agree

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Staff?

 

[Omegabronic]

Those aren't mutually exclusive

Exclussive...? I am sorry but i don't get how does that corelate to what i said
Simply put, existance erasure is erasing from existance, which is not the same as manipulating the thing getting erased, or else everyone who has EE would have matter manipulation, like, attacking an concept doesn't give you concept manipulation, same logic here, this is nothing more than potent EE

 

[Omegabronic]

Staff?

No rush, these can take weeks, trust me i know

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

Exclussive...? I am sorry but i don't get how does that corelate to what i said
Simply put, existance erasure is erasing from existance, which is not the same as manipulating the thing getting erased, or else everyone who has EE would have matter manipulation, like, attacking an concept doesn't give you concept manipulation, same logic here, this is nothing more than potent EE

Bruh.. why are you nitpicking the op it’s just called destruction energy because hakai literally means destroying destroying something can be referencing to erasing something anyways so they’re not mutually exclusive (dont try to stonewall challenge anyways someone with EE can have matter manip at the same time depending on how they erase something like turning them into dust etc.

 

[Omegabronic]

Bruh.. why are you nitpicking the op it’s just called destruction energy because hakai literally means destroying destroying something can be referencing to erasing something anyways so they’re not mutually exclusive

Hakai is explicitly erasure tho, it is just potent EE

(dont try to stonewall challenge

same

anyways someone with EE can have matter manip at the same time depending on how they erase something like turning them into dust etc.

If they are turning it to dust then it isn't EE in the first place, since nothing of the thing erased should remain at all, not even a sub atomic particle, EE is just EE, it isn't anything else

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

Hakai is explicitly erasure tho, it is just potent EE


same


If they are turning it to dust then it isn't EE in the first place, since nothing of the thing erased should remain at all, not even a sub atomic particle, EE is just EE, it isn't anything else

Ik it’s just called destruction energy or hakai energy i thought all people knew that

Depends because sometimes they turn into a dust but then the EE affects evaporate it but I could be arguing over visuals

 

[Omegabronic]

Ik it’s just called destruction energy or hakai energy i thought all people knew that

I knew that, but i think we are getting off tracked here

depends because sometimes they turn into a dust but then the EE affects evaporate it but I could be arguing over visuals

I am saying what is in the page of EE, if it just turns to dust, then it isn't EE per our standards

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

I knew that, but i think we are getting off tracked here


I am saying what is in the page of EE, if it just turns to dust, then it isn't EE per our standards

Yeah youre good i get what you’re saying with the ee stuff

 

[CryoTheMayo]

I agree with this. Makes zero sense that resistance to soul destruction wouldn't give you resistance to soul manipulation. If your soul can handle literal erasure from all existence it can resist a dude trying to manipulate it.

 

[Shubham_Sonsurkar]

Agreed

 

[Reiner04]

Seems logical. Hakai directly erases the soul. Those that can resist the existence erasing qualities of Hakai can withstand the soul destroying aspects as well.

I agree with this. Makes zero sense that resistance to soul destruction wouldn't give you resistance to soul manipulation. If your soul can handle literal erasure from all existence it can resist a dude trying to manipulate it.

I've Same opinion.

 

[SwordLegendz01]

Agree, but I'd prefer it to be resistance against soul destruction than soul manip

 

[Damage3245]

I agree with this. Makes zero sense that resistance to soul destruction wouldn't give you resistance to soul manipulation. If your soul can handle literal erasure from all existence it can resist a dude trying to manipulate it.

Why would that be the case? That's like saying if you can resist someone erasing your body from existence then you should get Resistance to Matter Manipulation & Biological Manipulation.

 

[Reiner04]

Why would that be the case? That's like saying if you can resist someone erasing your body from existence then you should get Resistance to Matter Manipulation & Biological Manipulation.

They do get resistance towards matter manp, as long as they correlate to destroying matter, not anything else but it's reductant to list as resistance towards basic EE provides that by default, but that's not the case with it being as fundamental as to soul. So that's why it being listed makes sense. Resistance towards Biological manp don't comes with resistance towards EE tho.

The case is kinda same as how Alien X EE comes under his reality wrapping powers but yet we list it separately, as it's not something comes by default within reality wrapping.

 

[Omegabronic]

The case is kinda same as how Alien X EE comes under his reality wrapping powers but yet we list it separately, as it's not something comes by default within reality wrapping.

we don't threat all of alien x's powers as sub powers of his reality warping at all

 

[Reiner04]

we don't threat all of alien x's powers as sub powers of his reality warping at all

When did I say that tho? We list all alien X powers separately even if it's done via reality wrapping or w/o it.

 

[Omegabronic]

When did I say that tho? We list all alien X powers separately even if it's done via reality wrapping or w/o it.

They aren't treated via reality warping at all tho

 

[Reiner04]

They aren't treated via reality warping at all tho

They do, his EE comes under his thought based abilities, which is where CPs reality wrapping powers came from. "He can wish everything out of Existence".

via Existence Erasure which should be superior to chrononavogator, a device capable of erasing all of Existence that includes Time and Causality, as servantis implied Alien X being omnipotent in that aspect which has been supported by Professor Paradox previously who called him Omnipotent as well

 

[Reiner04]

It's as simple as, if you create fire via reality wrapping, that's still fire manp, if you erase someone via "reality wrapping", that's still EE, if you create smth via reality wrapping, that's still creation, etcetcetc-ra. Things are same for all other abilities.

 

[Ikelaggan]

What is this being argued here
Because desteuction and erasure are completely different things

Existence Erasure is the simple power to remove something from existence, leaving nothing behind, a level of destruction beyond incineration, vaporization, and atomization.

I was pretty sure that the definition was clear on it being a level of destruction.

 

[Omegabronic]

Existence Erasure is the simple power to remove something from existence, leaving nothing behind, a level of destruction beyond incineration, vaporization, and atomization.

I was pretty sure that the definition was clear on it being a level of destruction.

So the proposal is to just specify that the EE works on a soul level? Because that is already done in profiles is it not?

It's as simple as, if you create fire via reality wrapping, that's still fire manp, if you erase someone via "reality wrapping", that's still EE, if you create smth via reality wrapping, that's still creation, etcetcetc-ra. Things are same for all other abilities.

Then said abilites would have an "via reality warping" written to then

They do, his EE comes under his thought based abilities, which is where CPs reality wrapping powers came from. "He can wish everything out of Existence".

That is a thought based EE, if it was done via reality warping then i should have an "via reality warping" on the profile, either way, i think we are derailing at this point

 

[Reiner04]

Then said abilites would have an "via reality warping" written to then

It's just matter of choice, there is no rule such.

 

[Omegabronic]

It's just matter of choice, there is no rule susuch.

Well, that is how profilea are written when other abbilities are given via one other abillity