Minor Addition for Jetstream Sam: Pissing off an AI.

[AThe1412]

I'm just going to copy this thread I made earlier.

Jetstream Sam's taunt mechanic can put his opponent in an enraged state, increasing their damage output but also decreasing their durability. It notably works on cyborgs with nanomachines that suppress their emotions and the Metal Gear Ray in the video (it glowing red to indicate the taunt's effect) which is controlled by a non-sentient AI.

This should give him Enhanced Empathic Manipulation everyone including myself has agreed that it's Social Influencing.

Also, all the cyborgs should have Resistance to Fear Manipulation as well or does Empathic Manipulation already cover that?

Agree: 8 (@PrinceofPein, @Phsccarvalho, @UchihaSlayer96 (Social Influencing), @Oliver_de_jesus, @Unknownnah (Social Influencing), @Chariot190 (Social Influencing), @ZillertheBucko (Social Influencing), @Armorchompy (Social Influencing), @AThe1412 (Social Influencing).)

Disagree: 2 (@Armorchompy) (Empathic Manipulation), @Chariot190 (Empathic Manipulation).)

Neutral:

 

[AThe1412]

Bump.

 

[AThe1412]

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[AThe1412]

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[PrinceofPein]

Looks good

Aside that, you should only bump thread in 12 hours interval, preferably a day's interval

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Although I think this is more of a game mechanic since it doesn't seem like something from the lore, I won't question this detail.

Since it lowers enemy durability, shouldn't there be a stat reduction? Limited I think, since it increases the damage of opponents.

 

[AThe1412]

Looks good

Aside that, you should only bump thread in 12 hours interval, preferably a day's interval

Alright, thanks for letting me know.

 

[AThe1412]

Although I think this is more of a game mechanic since it doesn't seem like something from the lore, I won't question this detail.

It wouldn’t exactly be out of place in Metal Gear. The verse have actual supernatural entities like ghosts and psychics. I wouldn’t be surprised if Sam had some supernatural ability as well, seeing as how he’s able to keep up with cyborgs despite being a mere human and his sword is even rumored to be a cursed blade.

 

[AThe1412]

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[Phsccarvalho]

Bump?

 

[AThe1412]

Bump. Almost forgot I made this thread.

 

[AThe1412]

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[AThe1412]

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[AThe1412]

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[AThe1412]

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[AThe1412]

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[UchihaSlayer96]

This seems fine.

 

[AThe1412]

This seems fine.

Thanks, do you know how many votes a CRT needs to be accepted? This is my first one so I have no idea.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Thanks, do you know how many votes a CRT needs to be accepted? This is my first one so I have no idea.

for a minor one like this you just need one vote from one staff and then wait for grace

I agree

 

[AThe1412]

for a minor one like this you just need one vote from one staff and then wait for grace

I agree

Oh ok, thanks for your vote.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Thanks, do you know how many votes a CRT needs to be accepted? This is my first one so I have no idea.

Like Oliver said, you need a staff to agree with you, and that should be enough.

 

[AThe1412]

Like Oliver said, you need a staff to agree with you, and that should be enough.

Alright, guess I just need to find a staff member who's knowledgeable about MGR.

 

[AThe1412]

Bump.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Alright, guess I just need to find a staff member who's knowledgeable about MGR.

You can go to the Metal Gear verse page and see the staff members who support the verse.

After that, ask on your message boards (on this site) to see this crt.

 

[Armorchompy]

This should give him Enhanced Empathic Manipulation

What? Why? It's clearly just social influencing.

 

[AThe1412]

What? Why? It's clearly just social influencing.

I mean, he's inflicting rage on a machine that isn't even meant to have any emotions. I don't know, it seems more than just Social Influencing to me.

 

[Armorchompy]

I mean, he's inflicting rage on a machine that isn't even meant to have any emotions. I don't know, it seems more than just Social Influencing to me.

We don't know how advanced RAY's AI is. It's weird to say that it can feel emotions but it's always acted pretty animal-like, that's not completely out of the question. Definitely makes more sense than saying he can inflict unresistable hax just by saying a couple words.

 

[AThe1412]

We don't know how advanced RAY's AI is. It's weird to say that it can feel emotions but it's always acted pretty animal-like, that's not completely out of the question. Definitely makes more sense than saying he can inflict unresistable hax just by saying a couple words.

Alright, so I guess it's something similar to Blade Wolf's case? What about the other cyborgs? They have nanomachines that suppress their emotions and Sam's taunt works on them just fine.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

We don't know how advanced RAY's AI is. It's weird to say that it can feel emotions but it's always acted pretty animal-like, that's not completely out of the question. Definitely makes more sense than saying he can inflict unresistable hax just by saying a couple words.

for some reason I read the "maybe you should try getting a job" in Sam's voice

 

[AThe1412]

for some reason I read the "maybe you should try getting a job" in Sam's voice

 

[Chariot190]

Alright, so I guess it's something similar to Blade Wolf's case? What about the other cyborgs? They have nanomachines that suppress their emotions and Sam's taunt works on them just fine.

To be fair, Desperado Cyborgs in particular, only really suppress fear and other emotions like that would hinder effectiveness. Emotions that would "benefit" a soldier like anger or "bloodlust", well Desperado ain't exactly abiding by international laws let's just say.

 

[Armorchompy]

Alright, so I guess it's something similar to Blade Wolf's case? What about the other cyborgs? They have nanomachines that suppress their emotions and Sam's taunt works on them just fine.

The emotions stuff probably doesn't apply to everything given that they show emotions pretty often in cutscenes and stuff

 

[ZillertheBucko]

me when I'm an emotion suppressed killing machine but I see my opponent wave his arms a little bit and then cancel it into a dodge

anyways yeah it's definitely social influencing, it's just a taunt and nothing more.

 

[Chariot190]

me when I'm an emotion suppressed killing machine but I see my opponent wave his arms a little bit and then cancel it into a dodge

anyways yeah it's definitely social influencing, it's just a taunt and nothing more.

It's a very impressive dodge, stop acting like you wouldn't do the same.

 

[AThe1412]

me when I'm an emotion suppressed killing machine but I see my opponent wave his arms a little bit and then cancel it into a dodge

anyways yeah it's definitely social influencing, it's just a taunt and nothing more.

Ok. Sam just really knows how to piss people off I guess. I was really just wondering if his taunt would qualify as an ability. I will update the thread.

 

[Chariot190]

This is social influencing that can be applied in combat
(doesnt mean he's **** instahaxing dudes who dont resist it to death, it's social influencing, not mind hax, you know exactly what I mean for the goons who use this shit in matches as a wincondition).
He shit talks with purpose. Pissing off an AI, well, it is an AI, not a brick.
And cyborgs in this case have anger being one of the few emotions that is enabled in combat.

This just means in a simple sense that Sam talks shit to put his foes into a state where they lowkey bloodlust, which reflects in stats. And because he's Sam he just giga skill ***** them to death.