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Mcu high tiers star lvl revision

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the real question is how much carol actually holds back before that there’s no way she’s holding back like 99% of her strength in so many dangerous situations
 
Lacku said:
Great job, the only thing I would add is maybe clarify that Carol doubted she'd be able to reignite Hala's sun and that it's a new level of power for her.
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I find that pretty irrelevant, she doubting didnt affect the feat itself. It's fine to use that to explain why she shouldnt backscale but on the justification for her tier it doesnt matter.
 
darkphantom9805 said:
the real question is how much carol actually holds back before that there’s no way she’s holding back like 99% of her strength in so many dangerous situations
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We have no explaination and no values of how much she holds back, and i really doubt we will ever have that.
 
darkphantom9805 said:
Maybe there’s a wog or something we can get cause with so much at stake it makes no sense she holds back such a huge amount
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I don't think we have anything on The marvels and the existing ones dont tell anything about that either, mostly it just "she is too powerful" or something like that
 
Suigetsuhyugs said:
We have no explaination and no values of how much she holds back, and i really doubt we will ever have that.
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I may or may not have some evidence that Post-Awakening characters are at least 5-A which would bring her usual strength closer to her peak, I'm gonna save that CRT for a while though since the verse's scaling has gone through enough the past month
 
So is there anything else that needs to be done for this to be applied?
 
so since carol would only scale to her small star lvl feat (at her peak)

all those that need to be downgraded back to high 6-b would include
avengers/allies: post-awakening thor, hulk (hulkbuster 2.0), pepper (rescue), war-machine (mark 4-6), steve (with mjolnir & his vibranium shield’s durability), drax (with knives), strange (including his sling ring), ant-man (post civil-war), falcon (vibranium shield + wings), black panther (vibranium claws), shuri (vibranium claws as black panther), john walker (vibranium shield)
6-A: iron-man (mark 50-85, via absorption), thanos (durability for his blade), scarlet witch
6-B and below: vision, hulk, keys before infinity war/endgame

all sorcerers: ancient one, mordo, wong, kaecilius (with their sling rings), strange supreme (pre-fusion - at least 7-A, likely high 6-b), sinister strange

cosmic:
6-A: tesseract (durability via forcefields), chitauri scepter (durability only)
at least high 6-b: ronan (strength wise/ 5-C durability wise), infinity gauntlet, the orb, aether/eye of agamotto/soul stone (downgrade to at least high 6-b for durability), infinity ultron (via mind stone)
black order: cull obsidian, thanos, ebony maw

those in thor movies:
at least high 6-A, likely 5-b: surtur, odin, gungnir, hela (accelerated development/her full power)
at least 5-A: zeus, jane foster, gorr, valkyrie (thunderbolt), stormbreaker, mjolnir, all-black the necrosword
at least 5-C: stormbreaker (strength/durability wise)
at least high 6-b: valkyrie (dragon fang), hela (depowered)
6-B: fire dragon, surtur (de-powered), fenris, loki (with weaponry), malekith, kurse

extras:
6-A: kang the conquerer (energy manipulation)
at least high 6-b: kamala/dar-benn/ monica rambeau (via energy absorption only), ned (via sling ring), namor (vibranium stuff in his profile)
6-b: ultron
 
Valiant_Abyss said:
while Tony endured an entire assault and had an effective exchange with Thanos.
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I think it's also worth noting that it was to the head, and it didn't damage his suit at all. he took 0 damage total from it, so logically, if he was hit in the arm or something he wouldn't be knocked out or damaged
 
Yokoahh5743 said:
Why isn't scarlet witch an H6-A? She beats Captain Marvel with her base and she beats her base easily
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if everybody is returning to their old scaling, scarlet witch would be 6-A for breaking the double-edged sword which was unharmed by mark 85 iron man’s overloaded lasers, tho i forgot what the actual ap/value was for that

and she never fought carol, only a variant of maria rambeau which we don’t know whether she would be as powerful as carol or not
 
Wishfulite said:
if everybody is returning to their old scaling, scarlet witch would be 6-A for breaking the double-edged sword which was unharmed by mark 85 iron man’s overloaded lasers, tho i forgot what the actual ap/value was for that

and she never fought carol, only a variant of maria rambeau which we don’t know whether she would be as powerful as carol or not
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I found a concept photo of Carol's power level. Maria should be at level 6, the same level that Carol used to fly through and through the sun, which H6-A
 
Can we apply this CRT first before thinking of any upgrades? Even I think we can get higher than High 6-B+ but we should just leave it at that for now.
 
Yokoahh5743 said:
Thanos uses the space stone to block her power + his strength to get close to her and she also uses the power to destroy the mind stone. It's good proof that she has power over the space stone, which is probably H6-A scarlet witch

By looking at this picture

And the mind stone durability is H6-A, which she destroys. Or you will reduce the size of the stone, which is not acceptable
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Hulk above the space stone to ?

Also Thanos used many stones in places he didn’t have to in IW so it’s not a good telling
 
darkphantom9805 said:
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Hulk above the space stone to ?

Also Thanos used many stones in places he didn’t have to in IW so it’s not a good telling
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Just because Hulk punched her until she moved didn't mean he was on that level and looked like her in another universe. It cannot be proven that it will have the same level of power as her in every variant
 
 
Yokoahh5743 said:
Just because Hulk punched her until she moved didn't mean he was on that level and looked like her in another universe. It cannot be proven that it will have the same level of power as her in every variant
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That’s zombie Wanda who if anything is above normal Wanda by a huge margin
 
Suigetsuhyugs said:
Another thing to remember the mind stone durability/scepter is scaling of Scarlet Witch who is scaling to Captain Marvel 6-A calc that was made in the marvels so mind stone downgrade
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The system's scale is terribly broken and I'm really confused as to who started the scale like this
 
Yokoahh5743 said:
The system's scale is terribly broken and I'm really confused as to who started the scale like this
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The 6-A comes from Captain marvel going through hala's sun it got accepted and everyone started caling to it, before they only scaled to 6-B which was scaling to almost everyone
 
Yokoahh5743 said:
A good proof that she is stronger than Zombie Wanda is that she pushed Thanos with the space stone shield and was destroying the mind stone at the same time, hulk got only 13 hits from thanos and hulk was incapacitated
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What zombie Wanda tanked a mind stone nuke from infinity Ultron and dr strange believed she would be a decent distraction for them
 
Suigetsuhyugs said:
The 6-A comes from Captain marvel going through hala's sun it got accepted and everyone started caling to it, before they only scaled to 6-B which was scaling to almost everyone
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In the first place, why is it possible to scale? I already asked in CRT if we should give her a new key because it is power she had never used before
 
Yokoahh5743 said:
The system's scale is terribly broken and I'm really confused as to who started the scale like this
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Do you believe that the 6-B+ calc comes from freezing the Earth something that was supposedly made by the winter box?
Yokoahh5743 said:
In the first place, why is it possible to scale? I already asked in CRT if we should give her a new key because it is power she had never used before
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They already talked about it, we dont have a reason for why her powers were amped or boosted, we only know that she is using more power than she ever used before but that doesnt mean she wasnt capable of doing it before she just consciously never used so much power
 
Excel616 said:
Why?

Isn't she capable of stopping Thanos and would have killed him?

When the rest of Pre and Post Awakened Characters get downgraded, she will still have her High 6-B/High 6-A
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High 6-A comes from Captain MArvel calc she only get 6-B
 
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