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I honestly still believe that PreTimeskip Gildarts and Hades scale to Jura. Makarov himself stated Gildarts to be on Jura's level, and the last time he saw Gildarts was right after tenrou.
Gildarts was said to be a monster from the start, so him being 5th wizard saint level isn't a stretch.
PreTimeSkip Laxus was a little below Hades and stated to be "close" to Gildarts level, and post-1st-timeskip Laxus = Jura = Gildarts
Makes complete sense, and more than that it was stated in the manga itself.
Not to mention that we have no proof that Gildarts grew between Tenrou and Tartaros, and yet natsu didn't stand a chance against him when they met at Natsu's training trip
Gildarts was said to be a monster from the start, so him being 5th wizard saint level isn't a stretch.
PreTimeSkip Laxus was a little below Hades and stated to be "close" to Gildarts level, and post-1st-timeskip Laxus = Jura = Gildarts
Makes complete sense, and more than that it was stated in the manga itself.
Not to mention that we have no proof that Gildarts grew between Tenrou and Tartaros, and yet natsu didn't stand a chance against him when they met at Natsu's training trip